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Why aren't Muslims speaking out?
radhikaeatsraman
post Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
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I was having a discussion with my uncle and my father about the current situation with terrorism and the Middle East. During the discussion, I kept emphasizing that the majority of Muslims are good people and probably don't support terrorists and their actions. But then they said that they're all keeping quiet, and that by doing that, they're indirectly supporting it. By ignoring it, it's going to continue.

Then, they went on to say that in order for the terrorists to commit these acts, they need money for weapons and other equipment. Who provides it? Right after 9/11, millions of Muslims across the US were caught having connections to al-Qaeda, and many of them are in prison for it.

So why aren't "good Muslims" speaking out? Is it because of fear, or are they quietly supporting it?
 
 
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d00kie
post Mar 7 2006, 09:37 AM
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My bad Salam means peace, which is part of the religion . Muhammed was not a caravan raider, he was married to a rich traider named katijah who owned a caravan. He lead his followers away when the Arabs attacked and had no choice but to fight. Also what religion has not faught a battle? By the way religious battles are in almost every religion. Muslims promote non violence. Hazrat Ali met the man that was going to kill him and Muhammed told him this. Ali said that if that is what GOD wants than he shall kill me. He did not once think of killing the man to save his life. The man later murdered Hazrat Ali by stabbing him in the heart. Muhammed believed in peace and did nothing to force others to convert. Many people did acts of violence against him but he never took revenge on those. The muslims take their religion seriously and if anyone abuses it they follow up by non violent demonstrations rather than outraged fights.
 
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post Mar 7 2006, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Im too punk rock for this @ Mar 7 2006, 9:37 AM) *
My bad Salam means peace, which is part of the religion . Muhammed was not a caravan raider, he was married to a rich traider named katijah who owned a caravan.


See the wikipedia article.

QUOTE(Wikipedia:Muhammad)
Muhammad turned to raiding caravans bound for Mecca. Caravan raiding (al-ghazw) was an old Arabian tradition; Muslims justified the raids by Meccan's confiscation of all their property left at Mecca and the state of war deemed to exist between the Meccans and the Muslims. Secular scholars add this was also a matter of survival for the Muslims. They owned no land in Medina and if they did not raid, they would have to live on charity and whatever wage labor they could find, both of which were in short supply in the small oasis.

In March of 624, Muhammad led some 300 warriors in a raid on a Meccan merchant caravan. The Meccans successfully defended the caravan and then decided to teach the Medinans a lesson. They sent a small army against Medina. On March 15, 624 near a place called Badr, the Meccans and the Muslims clashed. Though outnumbered more than 3 times (1000 to 300) in the battle, the Muslims met with success, killing at least forty-five Meccans and taking seventy prisoners for ransom; only fourteen Muslims died. This marked the real beginning of Muslim military achievement.



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He lead his followers away when the Arabs attacked and had no choice but to fight. Also what religion has not faught a battle? By the way religious battles are in almost every religion. Muslims promote non violence. Hazrat Ali met the man that was going to kill him and Muhammed told him this. Ali said that if that is what GOD wants than he shall kill me. He did not once think of killing the man to save his life. The man later murdered Hazrat Ali by stabbing him in the heart. Muhammed believed in peace and did nothing to force others to convert. Many people did acts of violence against him but he never took revenge on those. The muslims take their religion seriously and if anyone abuses it they follow up by non violent demonstrations rather than outraged fights.


It's not just the matter of the Muslims acting violent, it's the fact that Muslim leaders aren't getting enough publicity in condemning these attacks. Either they're not making strong condemnations, or the media isn't covering them as much.

But if the media isn't covering them, why aren't they complaining?
 

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zomgznoway   Why aren't Muslims speaking out?   Feb 19 2006, 08:17 PM
CrackedRearView   It would be unfair (and quite illogical) to say th...   Feb 19 2006, 08:58 PM
sadolakced acid   do you fault christians who don't speak out ab...   Feb 19 2006, 10:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Feb 19 2006, 10:5...   Feb 20 2006, 11:59 AM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 01:24 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 19 2006, 10...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 AM
Endless_Symphony   ^ Islam is a peaceful religion like nearly all the...   Feb 20 2006, 02:17 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 20 2006, 10:59 AM) ...   Feb 20 2006, 03:17 PM
disco infiltrator   Uh, people who speak out against the terrorist nex...   Feb 20 2006, 05:48 PM
zomgznoway   But if every average Muslim spoke out and banded t...   Feb 20 2006, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away   They do speak out. MPAC, MAT, the Free Muslim Coal...   Feb 20 2006, 07:06 PM
sadolakced acid   the fact that hamas got elected should say that ye...   Feb 20 2006, 07:59 PM
xnofearx   This is something I have to talk to my girlfriend ...   Feb 21 2006, 07:15 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 05:25 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Feb 23 2006, 5:25 PM) ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:05 PM
ComradeRed   It's a collective action problem. The cost to ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:07 PM
Im too punk rock for this   good muslims are speaking out people just decide t...   Mar 6 2006, 03:55 PM
kryogenix   First of all, learn to use punctuation. QUOTE(Im ...   Mar 6 2006, 05:42 PM
Im too punk rock for this   My bad Salam means peace, which is part of the rel...   Mar 7 2006, 09:37 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Im too punk rock for this @ Mar 7 2006,...   Mar 7 2006, 05:11 PM
Im too punk rock for this   im sorry i took what u said a little offensively m...   Mar 7 2006, 10:44 PM
Spirited Away   Islam itself is not violent, Islamic fundamentalis...   Mar 8 2006, 10:13 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 8 2006, 10:13 A...   Mar 8 2006, 03:22 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 8 2006, 2:22 PM) 1....   Mar 31 2006, 01:00 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 2:00 A...   Apr 2 2006, 10:08 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Mar 31 2006, 1:00 A...   Apr 3 2006, 12:36 AM
swtcherriipie   QUOTE(zomgznoway @ Feb 19 2006, 8:17 PM) ...   Mar 31 2006, 04:12 PM
monde libre   Just a few points. (a) "Islama" means s...   Mar 31 2006, 10:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(monde libre @ Mar 31 2006, 9:07 PM)...   Apr 1 2006, 10:27 AM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   I would think that a lot of Muslims do not support...   Apr 2 2006, 03:06 PM
sillakilla220   i'm sorry kiddo i dont wanna burst your fantas...   Apr 2 2006, 03:17 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 2 2006, 4:17 PM...   Apr 2 2006, 08:14 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 2 2006, 6:14 PM) Po...   Apr 3 2006, 03:11 AM
mipadi   It would seem that the coalition is responsible fo...   Apr 2 2006, 10:12 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 2 2006, 11:12 PM) It w...   Apr 3 2006, 04:39 PM
sillakilla220   QUOTEI wouldn't doubt that the ratio of molest...   Apr 4 2006, 05:57 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 4 2006, 6:57 PM...   Apr 5 2006, 11:40 PM
monde libre   Soon, I will be interviewing an imam at Georgetown...   Apr 5 2006, 10:48 PM
monde libre   How does Islam define "unbelievers"? I...   Apr 5 2006, 11:48 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 6 2006, 12:48 AM)...   Apr 6 2006, 12:07 AM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTESo let's see you justify your claims with...   Apr 6 2006, 01:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 6 2006, 2:0...   Apr 8 2006, 04:29 PM
monde libre   QUOTEFight in the cause of Allah those who fight y...   Apr 6 2006, 07:17 PM
monde libre   Don't make me go fallacious on YOU.   Apr 8 2006, 07:00 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(monde libre @ Apr 8 2006, 8:00 PM) ...   Apr 9 2006, 09:29 AM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 10:29 AM) S...   Apr 9 2006, 02:29 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEYou state that if someone refuses to believe ...   Apr 8 2006, 07:56 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   You say I am SillaKilla? Haha. Why just because ...   Apr 9 2006, 02:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND @ Apr 9 2006, 3:4...   Apr 9 2006, 05:39 PM
monde libre   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 9 2006, 6:39 PM) a)...   Apr 9 2006, 06:20 PM
monde libre   Since when did this turn into a theological debate...   Apr 9 2006, 03:09 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   I didn't challenge his faith. I am just posin...   Apr 9 2006, 03:13 PM
monde libre   I didn't say that he shouldn't point out f...   Apr 9 2006, 03:16 PM
TeeNaGe_WaSteLaND   QUOTEI'm sorry, I suppose I'm giving him t...   Apr 9 2006, 06:16 PM


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