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Environment vs. Economy
*Kathleen*
post May 13 2004, 09:03 PM
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All right, so since I want to see a different topic out there...this one's from February's Lincoln-Douglas topic:

Resolved: A government's obligation to protect the environment ought to take precedence over its obligation to promote economic development.

I'm on the negative side for this, seeing that only by providing a healthy, stable economy can you be able to help the environment. The products of a good economy are what help improve the environment.

Haha don't worry...I have more points...I've researched both sides to this, so bring it on. _smile.gif
 
 
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EmeraldKnight
post May 20 2004, 06:51 PM
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In economics, the definition of a "public good" is a Commons: something that everyone can extract resources from without having to put anything back, i.e. the environment. Nobody owns the environment.

The economy is a private good because it's not free... you have to buy your way into it. You can OWN part of it.

The economy might BENEFIT the whole public, but it is NOT a public good since it is ultimatley owned by private individuals.

Alright, i'll give you that.. now why is it important that it be a public good?
 

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Kathleen   Environment vs. Economy   May 13 2004, 09:03 PM
WildGriffin   yeah,economy first. but the problem is that the st...   May 13 2004, 09:05 PM
Spirited Away   This is one of the hardest debates to choose a sid...   May 13 2004, 09:13 PM
xjjajeengx   Well, I'm not a outdoor kind of person, but i ...   May 13 2004, 09:13 PM
NatiMarie   Good topic Kathleen. I serioulsy don't even kn...   May 13 2004, 09:22 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEi feel that we already have so much polution ...   May 13 2004, 09:30 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 13 2004, 9:30 PM)Are we ...   May 13 2004, 09:42 PM
xjjajeengx   QUOTEHehe (I'll be nice) more people die from ...   May 13 2004, 09:51 PM
stryker76   Im boarder lined on this one...i mean yeah a good ...   May 13 2004, 10:11 PM
tkproduce   I'd like to share a revelation that I've h...   May 14 2004, 02:57 AM
WildGriffin   QUOTEI'd like to share a revelation that I...   May 14 2004, 04:48 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEOh and on the Global warming thing...yeah its...   May 14 2004, 02:20 PM
WildGriffin   QUOTEwe have laws that make sure you don't dep...   May 14 2004, 02:36 PM
Kathleen   Haha...pft...everyone has to obey the laws!   May 14 2004, 02:42 PM
tkproduce   I hope you people know that plants respire (I...   May 14 2004, 02:58 PM
jewishbabeygirl87   just leave enough environment so that if we ever d...   May 14 2004, 03:02 PM
WildGriffin   QUOTElike the rainforests "f*ck the rainfores...   May 14 2004, 03:30 PM
Kathleen   Ah, yes, tk - I forgot to mention that, but still....   May 14 2004, 03:51 PM
xjjajeengx   okay im just lost now. im out of this debate. all...   May 14 2004, 06:14 PM
Kathleen   Hehe...aww...you'll do great, Grace! Good ...   May 14 2004, 06:21 PM
Spirited Away   I like it , I like things with economics.   May 14 2004, 09:33 PM
ComradeRed   Just remember that the Earth has seniority over us...   May 16 2004, 08:20 PM
Spirited Away   No one replied to me, so I had to re-post.. A tho...   May 16 2004, 09:34 PM
strice   being a border line hippie, i choose the environme...   May 16 2004, 09:37 PM
tkproduce   The human race will self destruct anyway, I think....   May 17 2004, 02:25 AM
Kathleen   QUOTE(strice @ May 16 2004, 10:37 PM)being a ...   May 17 2004, 10:04 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 17 2004, 10:04 AM)Do you...   May 17 2004, 02:37 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEBut how can you be sure that prioritizing eco...   May 17 2004, 02:42 PM
EmeraldKnight   haha this topic reminds me of policy debate this y...   May 18 2004, 09:02 PM
stryker76   QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 14 2004, 3:58 PM)I hope...   May 18 2004, 09:56 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEWHOA hold on here...please no false info...no...   May 18 2004, 10:00 PM
tkproduce   QUOTE(stryker76 @ May 19 2004, 2:56 AM)WHOA h...   May 19 2004, 02:04 AM
EmeraldKnight   Maybe we should have a separate debate on the legi...   May 19 2004, 02:06 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 7:06 AM)Ma...   May 19 2004, 02:12 AM
EmeraldKnight   Then can we please get back on topic?   May 19 2004, 04:07 PM
Kathleen   That would be nice. See I'm mainly for the e...   May 19 2004, 04:13 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTESee I'm mainly for the economy simply bec...   May 19 2004, 04:17 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 17 2004, 2:42 PM)Well, w...   May 19 2004, 06:11 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 19 2004, 4:13 PM)That wo...   May 19 2004, 06:20 PM
shawty_redd   i think that enviroment is more important because ...   May 19 2004, 06:38 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEi think that enviroment is more important bec...   May 19 2004, 07:39 PM
shawty_redd   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 6:39 PM)Bu...   May 19 2004, 08:25 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEbut to make money u need the enviroment...wit...   May 19 2004, 08:32 PM
Spirited Away   I wouldn't say all of our spending would need ...   May 19 2004, 09:14 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEI think so long as we and big businesses are ...   May 19 2004, 09:25 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 9:25 PM)Th...   May 19 2004, 10:22 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEExactly. Why would you want to worry about th...   May 19 2004, 10:28 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 10:28 PM)u...   May 19 2004, 11:00 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTESeriously speaking, it wouldn't be so bad...   May 19 2004, 11:02 PM
strice   there is no choosing one or the other, really. if ...   May 19 2004, 11:44 PM
EmeraldKnight   But see, there is choosing one or the other, depen...   May 19 2004, 11:52 PM
shawty_redd   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 7:32 PM)I ...   May 20 2004, 08:38 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEmuch of the deficit comes from the war..the u...   May 20 2004, 02:00 PM
Kathleen   Hmm...I suppose people aren't considering the ...   May 20 2004, 03:08 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 20 2004, 3:08 PM)Hmm...I...   May 20 2004, 03:19 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEPrecedence means which should come FIRST. You...   May 20 2004, 05:14 PM
Kathleen   Minda, about your focusing-on-the-economy-doesn...   May 20 2004, 05:35 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 20 2004, 5:35 PM)Minda, ...   May 20 2004, 05:46 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEMOST of the time the government focuses on he...   May 20 2004, 05:56 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 5:56 PM)BU...   May 20 2004, 06:21 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEIf you pass NO laws regarding economy, and on...   May 20 2004, 06:25 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:25 PM)Bu...   May 20 2004, 06:38 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEPrecedence means which should come FIRST. You...   May 20 2004, 06:39 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:39 PM)Is...   May 20 2004, 06:42 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEI'm taking the environment side. I say th...   May 20 2004, 06:46 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:46 PM)Ho...   May 20 2004, 06:49 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEIn economics, the definition of a "publi...   May 20 2004, 06:51 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:51 PM)Al...   May 20 2004, 07:02 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEBecause a public good (commons) should be man...   May 20 2004, 07:09 PM
Spirited Away   I disagree, the economy is not just public or priv...   May 20 2004, 07:10 PM
EmeraldKnight   See.. you guys actually know stuff about economics...   May 20 2004, 07:11 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 7:11 PM)Se...   May 20 2004, 07:16 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:10 PM)I ...   May 20 2004, 07:28 PM
EmeraldKnight   I'm still not seeing why the government should...   May 20 2004, 07:29 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 7:29 PM)I...   May 20 2004, 07:33 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 20 2004, 7:28 PM)Econo...   May 20 2004, 07:41 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:41 PM)Ev...   May 20 2004, 07:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 20 2004, 7:43 PM)Where...   May 20 2004, 07:46 PM
angel-roh   QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 13 2004, 7:13 PM)Well,...   May 22 2004, 07:24 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEi agree with u, grace... im not that outdoor ...   May 22 2004, 02:27 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:46 PM)An...   May 22 2004, 04:28 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 22 2004, 4:28 PM)Every...   May 22 2004, 04:30 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 22 2004, 4:30 PM)Ac...   May 22 2004, 04:32 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 22 2004, 4:32 PM)The e...   May 22 2004, 04:38 PM


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