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Bush vs. Kerry: who will win?, you're opinions
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oOyunieOo
post May 17 2004, 11:34 AM
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I personally think it will be a tight race, but I'm not sure America would want to change Presidents in the middle of a war, so I go Bush.
 
 
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ComradeRed
post May 20 2004, 12:55 PM
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I wrote a post that no one has rebutted yet. Basically: Bush WILL lose the election because of the Reform Party. They got 15% of the vote in 1992, I'm betting you they will get at least 5% this year, easily costing Bush the election.

Pat Buchanan's American Conservative magazine is having record sales. It bashes Bush more than anything I've seen on the liberal side. Buchanan has the potential to get even more votes than Nader, as exit polls consisently reveal that 20% of AMericans classify themselves as liberals, while 30% say they are conservative (and 50% moderate). MANY of the "conservatives" are actually conservatives, not neo-cons. They are anti-Bush every bit as much as anti-Kerry. They voted FOR Bush in 2000, because during that election Bush promised a BALANCED BUDGET and a "MORE HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY" -- his own words. Many of them are going to vote against him just because he went against those promises.

Kerry even has a chance in rock-ribbed Republican Georgia, albeit a very small one, where Buchanan has as high as 8-10% in some exit polls right now, especially among "White Religious-Right", who are upset at Bush's unwillingness to take a hardline on affirmative action and secularism, and at the same time his gallavanting abroad.

If the Libertarian Party nominates Aaron Russo, he has a very good chance at getting alot of Republican votes in Nevada, which will switch the state to Kerry. When he ran for governor of the state as a libertarian, he got 47% in the polls before dropping out because of cancer. In 2000, Bush only won 47% to 46% in Nevada, with the combined Libertarian/Reform vote totally 3%.

Yet another wildcard is RepublicanTexas Congressman Ron Paul (www.paul2004.com), extremely popular among traditional conservatives. When he ran for president in 1988 as an independent, he got over half a million votes: the second most for any independent candidate in American history. He was elected to the House in 1996 and his popularity has only grown since. Right now, he is NOT interested in running, but if he does, that's easily another million or two Bush votes. His forceful opposition to reinstating the Draft recently has also gained him alot of popularity among Goldwater and Reagan-conservatives.

The neo-conservative/conservative split in the Republican Party today is far bigger than any radical/traditional split in the Democratic Party, even in 2000, when Nader took 3% of the vote. 2004 will be a repeat of 1992. I doubt Kerry will win the popular vote, but the Electoral College is on his side. Kerry might get upwards of 300 electoral votes, though I think that a more realistic estimate is 280-ish. The key state is going to be Ohio, which will probably switch to Kerry.
 

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oOyunieOo   Bush vs. Kerry: who will win?   May 17 2004, 11:34 AM
WildGriffin   I say Bush. We're in the middle of a war and p...   May 17 2004, 11:49 AM
immersion31   i think kerry, cuz bush has lots of stuff against ...   May 17 2004, 12:32 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEI say Bush. We're in the middle of a war ...   May 17 2004, 01:59 PM
ComradeRed   Here's my prediction: a 286 to 252 win for Ker...   May 17 2004, 02:33 PM
Mireh   I'm not sure. Its going to be fooking tight th...   May 17 2004, 04:04 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEKerry =  You're too cute, Val. I ...   May 17 2004, 04:11 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Mireh @ May 17 2004, 4:04 PM)I'm no...   May 17 2004, 04:11 PM
onenonly101   I think Bush will win, because as much as these vo...   May 17 2004, 04:26 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEPeople (like myself) are going to vote (bah.....   May 17 2004, 05:00 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 17 2004, 4:26 PM)I th...   May 17 2004, 05:14 PM
WildGriffin   lets hold a vote for who uninspiredfae will vote f...   May 17 2004, 05:25 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 5:25 PM)lets...   May 17 2004, 05:35 PM
onenonly101   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 17 2004, 5:14 PM)Well,...   May 17 2004, 05:45 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 17 2004, 5:45 PM)Yeah...   May 17 2004, 05:51 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 17 2004, 5:51 PM)I...   May 17 2004, 05:59 PM
WildGriffin   *clears throat* THEY TUK OUR JERBS!!...   May 17 2004, 06:43 PM
juliar   Bush will win. Republican is tied together, there...   May 17 2004, 07:49 PM
WildGriffin   QUOTEFlorida and Texas are mostly on his side, as ...   May 17 2004, 07:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 6:43 PM)THEY...   May 17 2004, 08:27 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(juliar @ May 17 2004, 7:49 PM)Bush will...   May 17 2004, 08:42 PM
CrackedRearView   Kerry says what the people want to hear. Moldable...   May 19 2004, 06:15 PM
AngelicEyz00   i vote kerry... i think bush has a better chance o...   May 19 2004, 06:21 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(juliar @ May 17 2004, 7:49 PM)Bush will...   May 19 2004, 06:22 PM
WhiteChocolate   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 17 2004, 5:00 PM)I...   May 20 2004, 12:35 AM
strice   most of my friends take the stance of, "anyon...   May 20 2004, 12:41 AM
ComradeRed   I wrote a post that no one has rebutted yet. Basic...   May 20 2004, 12:55 PM
AmesBond   I think Bush'll win, not that I care too much ...   May 20 2004, 02:33 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(AmesBond @ May 20 2004, 2:33 PM)I think...   May 20 2004, 02:36 PM
angel-roh   umm i dont read the newspapers for years and plus ...   May 22 2004, 07:36 AM
WildGriffin   QUOTEumm i dont read the newspapers for years and ...   May 22 2004, 09:50 AM
LiNHy POO   personally i dont like bush! bush isnt very op...   May 22 2004, 10:40 AM
pimpin231   i say kerry   May 22 2004, 01:35 PM
EmeraldKnight   I dont follow current politics that much, but I de...   May 22 2004, 02:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 2:19 PM)I ...   May 22 2004, 03:51 PM
EmeraldKnight   Clinton left office with a surplus, how is that in...   May 22 2004, 03:51 PM
X serenity   as much as i hate to admit it, i think bush is goi...   May 22 2004, 03:55 PM
Spirited Away   For all my logic, I had to forget Clinton and his ...   May 22 2004, 03:58 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEFor all my logic, I had to forget Clinton and...   May 22 2004, 04:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 4:19 PM)oh...   May 22 2004, 04:23 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEI agree that the tax cut was rather reckless ...   May 22 2004, 04:24 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 4:24 PM)I ...   May 22 2004, 04:27 PM
EmeraldKnight   because it ultimately hurts the economy and the co...   May 22 2004, 04:32 PM
Spirited Away   That's why I said that it was a contradiction ...   May 22 2004, 04:34 PM
ryfitaDF   OOOOH. i evened the antie. 10 and 10. go me!   May 23 2004, 01:40 PM
EmeraldKnight   and I unevened it   May 23 2004, 01:41 PM
ComradeRed   http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/21/...ain61...   May 23 2004, 02:37 PM
EmeraldKnight   Haha, Minda with the daily political update, thank...   May 23 2004, 02:43 PM
justbecausexx   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 11:49 AM)I s...   Jun 9 2004, 05:02 PM
T.K.O.   KERRY! oh wait, do u mean the fat old dude, ke...   Jun 9 2004, 05:05 PM
onenonly101   I don't think anyone can say who WILL win, but...   Jun 9 2004, 05:08 PM
ComradeRed   I will bet you any amount of money that Kerry wins...   Jun 9 2004, 05:16 PM
onenonly101   I don't bet, esp on un certain things. It does...   Jun 9 2004, 05:28 PM
ComradeRed   The polls are clearly in favor of Kerry. THe Third...   Jun 9 2004, 05:32 PM
strice   god damnit why hasn't anyone said "I are ...   Jun 9 2004, 06:32 PM
Yemmerz   Think about what would happen if something like 9-...   Jun 9 2004, 07:15 PM
glit_gal   I would like to say kerry, but honestly he doesn...   Jun 9 2004, 09:03 PM
Yemmerz   don't base your vote on... -race -personality ...   Jun 10 2004, 04:18 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jun 9 2004, 7:15 PM)Think abo...   Jun 10 2004, 05:03 PM
Yemmerz   wait i thought you were for bush [?]....gosh im lo...   Jun 10 2004, 05:35 PM
ComradeRed   I'm not for Bush, I'm against Kerry. Simil...   Jun 10 2004, 05:44 PM


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