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Creative is giving Apple a run for it's money, With new Zen Vision:M
uLoVeMikeRoch
post Jan 3 2006, 11:49 PM
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Some of you maybe fans of the 5G iPod Video.
Some of you may be fans of the Creative Zen Vision.
Well, some of you might complain that the Vision is too big, and you like the iPod's size. But the iPod video doesn't play enough formats. Or all your other complains. Well look no further. The MP3 player that rips off the iPod's design is here!
It's basically a smaller version of the Vision, hence the name.

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Creative is introducing their new Zen Vision:M, an answer to Apple's 5G iPod, and what an answer it is. We know it gets old hearing every new player get compared to Apple's flagship offering, but can you seriously blame us here? The specs are vaguely familiar, with a 2.5-inch screen at 320x240 resolution and a 30GB hard drive, though thankfully Creative squeezed in 4 hours of video playback, doubling Apple's endurance on at least video. (The audio playback conks out at 11 hours.) The size of the two players is virtually identical, with the Zen Vision:M only changing it up on thickness — at about twice the iPod's 0.43-inches. They're also forging their own path on button placement, sporting a layout similar to that of their Zen Micro Photo, and including a vertical scroll pad. Creative did add their usual FM tuner and voice recording niceties, and they have a decent list of video format support, including MPEG-4, WMV, Motion JPEG, DivX, and XviD, so this $330 player could turn out to be a worthy candidate for video capable commuting buddy — if Apple's lawyers don't have something to say about it first. Check out some closeups of interface, erm, borrowing after the jump.
 
 
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o0olaalaa
post Jan 4 2006, 06:02 PM
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it looks like they are just copying the ipod. if they are gonna make a new one at least be creative..
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(o0olaalaa @ Jan 4 2006, 6:02 PM)
it looks like they are just copying the ipod. if they are gonna make a new one at least be creative..
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Actually, the iPod's interface uses one of creative's patents.

Of course, the majority of people that own iPods probably don't know that, and I know many people will accuse creative of copying apple...
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 4 2006, 7:00 PM)
Actually, the iPod's interface uses one of creative's patents.

Of course, the majority of people that own iPods probably don't know that, and I know many people will accuse creative of copying apple...
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Psh. Let's be honest--the iPod used the UI first, but due to legal maneuvering, Creative managed to get the patent filed before Apple. So yes, legally Creative came out with it first, but let's be honest about where the idea came from.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 4 2006, 8:07 PM)
Psh. Let's be honest--the iPod used the UI first, but due to legal maneuvering, Creative managed to get the patent filed before Apple. So yes, legally Creative came out with it first, but let's be honest about where the idea came from.
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Apple is clearly one target, but it's by no means the only one, and while the UI described by Creative's patent is best-known through the iPod's remarkably similar user-interface, Creative launched such a system first, back in September 2000.

The iPod appeared in November 2001, and Apple's significant lead over Creative in the digital music market shows it's not just the UI that has brought market-leadership to one company and not the other.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/09/cr..._patent_threat/
 
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post Jan 6 2006, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 4 2006, 8:21 PM)
QUOTE(The Register)
Apple is clearly one target, but it's by no means the only one, and while the UI described by Creative's patent is best-known through the iPod's remarkably similar user-interface, Creative launched such a system first, back in September 2000.

The iPod appeared in November 2001, and Apple's significant lead over Creative in the digital music market shows it's not just the UI that has brought market-leadership to one company and not the other.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/09/cr..._patent_threat/
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I was going to say the exact thing.

Yes it does go well with the revolution. And no, the vision after the iPod.


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H, and just a correction. Its IPOD with VIDEO, not ipod Video. happy.gif A true Ipod VIDEO is rumored to be slated for 2006 release. (no idea what a "true" ipod video would entail.. but there we go.)



True, the iPod at it's core, is still a music player.
 
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post Jan 10 2006, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jan 6 2006, 8:48 PM)
And no, the vision after the iPod.
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After the iPod with video?
 
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post Jan 11 2006, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Jan 10 2006, 1:40 PM)
After the iPod with video?
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I don't think so
 
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post Jan 11 2006, 10:18 PM
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I don't think so
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uLoVeMikeRoch   Creative is giving Apple a run for it's money   Jan 3 2006, 11:49 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   Some Pictures Heres a link.   Jan 3 2006, 11:57 PM
mipadi   Creative Zen Vision? Sounds like it should be the ...   Jan 4 2006, 01:50 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 4 2006, 2:50 AM)Creative Z...   Jan 4 2006, 10:36 AM
Madame C   Wow. I'm surprised Apple isn't suing for ...   Jan 4 2006, 01:56 AM
medic   QUOTE(Madame C @ Jan 4 2006, 12:56 AM)Wow....   Jan 4 2006, 05:11 AM
Madame C   QUOTE(medic @ Jan 4 2006, 5:11 AM)Well they c...   Jan 4 2006, 12:30 PM
xnofearx   This player bears a striking resemblance to the iP...   Jan 4 2006, 12:12 PM
kryogenix   Argh. $330 is too much for my wallet. But the...   Jan 4 2006, 02:44 PM
o0olaalaa   it looks like they are just copying the ipod. if t...   Jan 4 2006, 06:02 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(o0olaalaa @ Jan 4 2006, 6:02 PM)it look...   Jan 4 2006, 07:00 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 4 2006, 7:00 PM)Actuall...   Jan 4 2006, 08:07 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 4 2006, 8:07 PM)Psh. Let...   Jan 4 2006, 08:21 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 4 2006, 8:21 PM)QUOTE(T...   Jan 6 2006, 07:48 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jan 6 2006, 8:48 PM)And...   Jan 10 2006, 01:40 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Jan 10 2006, 1:40 PM)...   Jan 11 2006, 10:10 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jan 11 2006, 11:10 PM)I...   Jan 11 2006, 10:18 PM
pandamonium   man thats dirty but it does look nice. it looks li...   Jan 4 2006, 06:32 PM
mipadi   I stand corrected. I had recalled reading otherwis...   Jan 4 2006, 08:23 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 4 2006, 8:23 PM)If Creativ...   Jan 4 2006, 08:24 PM
chaneun   samsung > creative > apple imo   Jan 4 2006, 08:24 PM
xnofearx   QUOTE(chaneun @ Jan 4 2006, 8:24 PM)samsung ...   Jan 5 2006, 10:37 PM
mipadi   The patent itself is very broad--it's only for...   Jan 4 2006, 08:28 PM
artislife90   As great as it is for creative to have the law on ...   Jan 4 2006, 09:30 PM
ThunderEvermore   Didnt the Zen Vision, the model after which the Ze...   Jan 4 2006, 10:58 PM
kryogenix   Creative's mp3 player was voted best in show a...   Jan 10 2006, 12:24 AM
simx   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 10 2006, 12:24 AM)Creat...   Jan 11 2006, 03:04 AM
sadolakced acid   ^ and microsoft... QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 4 2...   Jan 10 2006, 12:40 AM
xnofearx   Normally I don't like Creative MP3 players, bu...   Jan 11 2006, 01:44 PM
mipadi   An article about "iPod killers": QUOTET...   Jan 19 2006, 09:21 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 19 2006, 9:21 AM)An articl...   Jan 19 2006, 03:54 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jan 19 2006, 3:54 PM)It...   Jan 19 2006, 06:05 PM


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