a question about religion Options

[Mulder]

i was thinking about why im agnostic. and i realized, its because i was raised in a christian community, not a jewish one. i never developed jewish ties.


so i was wondering, how do you feel about a child growing up in a community whose major religion is not their own? do you think its bad? do you think that children should grow up in their religious community only? what about public schools?

and i searched. i really did.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Nate's right. Others and myself brought up that point last year when we were having our Creationism vs. Evolution debate...

I'll bring up a topic that Justin made to further prove the point.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...98146&hl=fsmism

Now, let's read through that, shall we?

Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.

Does that sound a little bit familiar?

Let's gain a little more understanding of FSMism.

Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence. What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage. We have numerous texts that describe in detail how this can be possible and the reasons why He does this. He is of course invisible and can pass through normal matter with ease.

OK, now, think. What religion does this remind you of?
If you haven't gotten it yet, replace all occurences of "Flying Spaghetti Monster" with "God".
Sound familiar now?

Now let's look at some of the posts made in that thread.

how did they come up with that?

it should not be taught in school. imagine how the little kids would react 0o

then how do they know he existed. there may be written accounts, but what if they made it up?

^and what if someone pretended to be the flying spaghetti monster? and how did they find the texts?

^ok, fine. but how did they find the texts? how can they prove it's him? and how is it that we can read it? if it is from when the universe was created, it wouldn't be in english.

Wow, If I was in that school I would be cracking up during class and I'm pretty sure all the other kids would be laughing or sitting there bewildered. It's school not the "oh so true" news paper. This is like that kabbalah thing.

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FSMism makes fun of the faults in Christianity and Intelligent Design. It's made to sound (just as) ridiculous (as Christianity). Which further proves what I've been saying to people forever...



If you had never learned ANY religion when you were younger, and to learn about them you had to go through independent studies or at least be introduced to them when you were younger, there are things you would think are outright ridiculous, like Christianity, just like these people thought of FSMism. These reactions are so ironic because people don't have reactions like that to Christianity. Christianity is a mainstream religion; everyone knows about it and there are many followers.

If no one ever knew any religion and someone came up to you one day talking about a guy who appeared out of nowhere, created everything that exists today as it is and made all the scientific evidence to prove otherwise just to mess with us, controls everything that happens to you, lives in the sky with angels and waits for you to follow his rules and believe in him your entire life so he can accept you there, loves everyone as equals yet sends some to burn for eternity in hell simply for not being Christians or being gay...you would laugh in their face. It's so beyond farfetched.

When people are born to Christian parents and taught to follow it when they are kids, when their logical skills have not developed to their full potential, when they have the most wildest imaginations of anyone on the planet, when they will believe anything that mommy and daddy tell them because they're mommy and daddy and they know everything, they are brainwashed to follow and believe. Sure, some can turn away, but others' minds haven't grown and searched as much to find the flaws in the logic of the religion, but most will continue to believe because they were told to when their minds were still extremely impressionable.

So, that point is like, completely made. There's really nothing to disprove that...(I can give more examples: Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc. - Kids will believe anything.)

[illumineering]

So, that point is like, completely made. There's really nothing to disprove that...(I can give more examples: Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc. - Kids will believe anything.)

Far from it. Here's a public lecture given by Steven Hawking that refutes your notion through the use of science. There's plenty of contrary evidence.

[NoSex]

Far from it.  Here's a public lecture given by Steven Hawking that refutes your notion through the use of science.  There's plenty of contrary evidence.

Please explain. Cause, if you are suggesting what I think you might, I could laugh alot.