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teachers, should they have higher pay?
kantoaznboi
post May 14 2004, 11:36 AM
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i believe that teachers are one the most underpaid jobs. if you honestly think, where would all the doctors be, or the surgeons be if there were no teachers? Teachers are one of the most important jobs u can have, so y do they have such low wages.

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abstracted
post Dec 29 2005, 03:38 AM
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I think teachers should be paid more.

I kept reading this question: what about the bad teachers?
Well, come on. You get people in every profession who are horrible. Just today I had to deal with a orthodontist who screwed up several of her patients' crowns (including mine). You can't avoid this. It sucks, but there'll be bad teachers, and I had/have my fair share of them.

There's the simple argument: without teachers, there's no one to build a better labor force.

My mom is a teacher. Her working hours go beyond the literal 8 to 4 each day. There's grading, school meetings, and planning--LOTS of planning. And stress. Plus, it's practically a high school drama among her coworkers at her elementary school. There's one teacher who randomly yelled at my mom for ten minutes, putting her to tears, about something she had nothing to do with. You get the bad bosses too. Or, worse, your team leader requires you to put in extra hours that you don't need, spend some of your salary on silly little gifts that cost more than they should for all teachers of one grade who don't give a damn about you, or make up OCD systems...anything.
My point--teaching is NOT an easy job. Yet, they get paid comparatively little.

About the athletes and singers...I agree that they get paid more than they should. Yes, they worked very hard to get to their level of skill, but they're job is to entertain! Without them, society would still function, even if it ends up being boring. They play games, they sing, they dance, whatever--isn't that what you do for fun? Because they're especially good at it, they get paid a lot. They use that money to look the way they want, buy the clothes they want, etc., so that more people like them. Then, when they're rich, they have the excess money to give to charities and such, and then the media goes on to say how they're wonderful people who helped so much.
Um, not to say that they aren't wonderful or that they don't deserve the fame, but they had the money to do it. I bet it didn't pinch their pockets. I give, but it costs me more to give the same amount of money or time than it costs that rich singer.

Teachers do wonderful deeds of giving as well, but just because it doesn't involve donating half a million to some major fundraiser, they don't get the appreciation. They teach us. They could suck like those teachers who are horrible, and they could just put on educational videos and hand out busywork. But for those teachers who really do teach--and I've had my fair share of brilliant teachers--they deserve more. But they don't get it.
 

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kantoaznboi   teachers   May 14 2004, 11:36 AM
dukesoccer07   I believe teachers should have higher pay... think...   May 14 2004, 11:39 AM
krnxswat   Some teachers also have degrees in other fields so...   May 14 2004, 11:44 AM
WildGriffin   Usually, but not always; a teacher is a teacher be...   May 14 2004, 11:47 AM
rivendell   QUOTE(krnxswat @ May 14 2004, 12:44 PM)Some t...   May 14 2004, 11:51 AM
tkproduce   Quite a lot of teachers at my school are Cambridge...   May 14 2004, 11:56 AM
WildGriffin   QUOTEQuite a lot of teachers at my school are Camb...   May 14 2004, 12:00 PM
kantoaznboi   QUOTEUsually, but not always; a teacher is a teach...   May 14 2004, 06:03 PM
jewishbabeygirl87   QUOTE(kantoaznboi @ May 14 2004, 12:36 PM)i b...   May 14 2004, 06:45 PM
initial-seven   QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 14 2004, 11:56 AM)Quite...   May 14 2004, 06:58 PM
xscore   NO WAY>..teachers get paid plenty...they have g...   May 14 2004, 07:24 PM
juliar   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 14 2004, 11:47 AM)Usu...   May 14 2004, 08:15 PM
Kathleen   I think the teachers get their fare share. The tea...   May 14 2004, 08:31 PM
divinity_star   If it could be decided on teachers pay I would say...   May 14 2004, 08:36 PM
juliar   QUOTE(divinity_star @ May 14 2004, 8:36 PM)If...   May 14 2004, 09:25 PM
NatiMarie   I think teacher's should DEFINETLY have higher...   May 14 2004, 09:53 PM
krnxswat   QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ May 14 2004, 10:53 PM)They ...   May 14 2004, 09:54 PM
NatiMarie   I saw this coming Well, okay, usually we adapt so...   May 14 2004, 10:02 PM
LiNHy POO   yesss they should!!!!!! th...   May 14 2004, 10:03 PM
krnxswat   QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ May 14 2004, 11:02 PM)Singe...   May 14 2004, 10:04 PM
NatiMarie   Not really, some singers out there aren't real...   May 14 2004, 10:23 PM
krnxswat   Well, more than half of the stuff we learn through...   May 14 2004, 10:29 PM
waccoon   QUOTE(jewishbabeygirl87 @ May 14 2004, 7:45 P...   May 14 2004, 10:32 PM
NatiMarie   Same with athletes, athletes should be paid so muc...   May 14 2004, 10:36 PM
iheartsimba   ^ yah, teachers work about the same amount as most...   May 14 2004, 10:37 PM
krnxswat   QUOTEI think they should get like raises (maybe th...   May 14 2004, 10:40 PM
NatiMarie   Oh well, it's not the teachers fault. It's...   May 14 2004, 10:44 PM
kantoaznboi   teachers just dont work the 9-4, but they have oth...   May 14 2004, 11:42 PM
WildGriffin   QUOTETeachers should get paid more -and- singers s...   May 15 2004, 12:40 AM
kantoaznboi   QUOTECause not everyone has lived their manadatory...   May 15 2004, 01:02 AM
angel-roh   well i guess so... i agree with u. but still that ...   May 28 2004, 08:10 PM
bird_of_prey   teachers should totally get paid more! they w...   May 28 2004, 09:56 PM
Got Shibby?   Some teachers really don't deserve higher pay....   May 29 2004, 01:26 PM
LatinaLady   they should get paid more. they eduate us. we need...   May 29 2004, 02:43 PM
maztaodizasta   i agree teachers should have higher pay since ther...   May 31 2004, 11:21 PM
SupraS15   College professors can make $80k-$100k+ ...   Jun 3 2004, 12:02 AM
angel-roh   N0T MANY TEACHERS D0NT TEACH WELL, BUT STILL GET P...   Jun 3 2004, 07:41 AM
darkcoldplace   QUOTE(krnxswat @ May 14 2004, 10:40 PM)What i...   Jun 3 2004, 07:43 AM
TBoltzbabe   they should if they're good teachers   Jun 3 2004, 10:27 AM
onenonly101   QUOTE(juliar @ May 14 2004, 8:15 PM)Heh. My c...   Jun 3 2004, 02:27 PM
Beyond Elite   I think teachers should have higher pays, because ...   Jun 3 2004, 03:07 PM
rabidsquirrels99   Teachers should definitely get higher pay. No matt...   Jun 3 2004, 04:06 PM
m@dcow   i believe substitute teachers need higher pay... t...   Jun 5 2004, 09:07 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(kantoaznboi @ May 14 2004, 11:42 PM)its...   Jun 5 2004, 02:00 PM
m@dcow   But what about all those people who work so hard i...   Jun 8 2004, 07:53 PM
K!$$   TEACHERS SHOULD GET HIGHER PAY!! [and i...   Jun 11 2004, 04:44 AM
ComradeRed   Abe Lincoln and Clarnece Darrow are two of our his...   Jun 11 2004, 08:53 AM
sheepy   yeah i guess dey should. but den again dey picked ...   Jul 9 2004, 12:28 PM
redsoxbaby87   it depends on the teacher. some teachers suck. the...   Jul 10 2004, 02:04 PM
xHalf nHalf   i duno its difficult to say...cause yes teachers d...   Jul 10 2004, 02:23 PM
rnrn897   well theres so many.. itd make economy go bad..   Jul 11 2004, 06:02 PM
sadolakced acid   yes, for if there are not teachers, who will teach...   Jul 11 2004, 06:06 PM
islandkiss   I'll have to agree with you on this one. QUOT...   Jul 11 2004, 09:07 PM
kantoaznboi   QUOTE(rnrn897 @ Jul 11 2004, 6:02 PM)well the...   Jul 11 2004, 10:25 PM
JlIaTMK   u no wat.... i agree with u.... they r underpaid.....   Jul 12 2004, 01:26 PM
redsoxbaby87   i will just say that teachers arent poor. okay, th...   Jul 12 2004, 07:09 PM
SasukeNaru   not neccesarily, teachers sometimes get decent pay...   Jul 12 2004, 07:12 PM
toria66622   yea I think they should get paid more cause kids t...   Nov 15 2005, 03:09 PM
xl0stxThoughtx   nah, they get paid a fair wage and they have good ...   Nov 23 2005, 02:40 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(xl0stxThoughtx @ Nov 23 2005, 2:40 PM)n...   Nov 23 2005, 06:50 PM
notelracailuj   teaching must be a hard job. theres always student...   Nov 23 2005, 02:42 PM
KissMe2408   Teachers get paid a decent amount. My best friend...   Dec 5 2005, 04:38 PM
The_AZN_Godfather   I do think teachers are underpaid. In fact, I thin...   Dec 5 2005, 06:34 PM
sharpandcuddly   Teachers should be paid more. Without the, there ...   Dec 15 2005, 02:55 PM
monde libre   Ha, yes, teachers should definitely get higher pay...   Dec 17 2005, 02:15 PM
jEllyBeaNs   well i say it really depends, because some of the ...   Dec 17 2005, 11:59 PM
Chii   i thought about this awile ago. i think it should ...   Dec 18 2005, 12:51 AM
emazing   I DO think some teachers deserve a higher salary, ...   Dec 18 2005, 01:03 AM
omgah_itsmaggiex   yes..isnt it teachers who teach us EVERYTHING?   Dec 26 2005, 12:37 AM
ComradeRed   Teachers are probably underpaid. This is because ...   Dec 26 2005, 10:02 AM
abstracted   I think teachers should be paid more. I kept read...   Dec 29 2005, 03:38 AM
acid_high   Teachers put up with shit form badass kids and low...   Dec 30 2005, 12:53 PM
The_AZN_Godfather   Raising the salary of every teacher would lower th...   Dec 30 2005, 09:56 PM
vash1530   teachers need to suck it up. they make a good amou...   Jan 1 2006, 12:36 AM
ComradeRed   Well the point is, if teacher's salaries went ...   Jan 1 2006, 10:07 PM
sadolakced acid   forget privatizing social security. privatize edu...   Jan 2 2006, 12:45 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jan 2 2006, 12:45 AM)...   Jan 2 2006, 12:58 AM
sadolakced acid   well, all of it. k-12 as well. Education is a s...   Jan 2 2006, 12:21 PM
illumineering   Here's a link to a Rand report on the effectiv...   Jan 2 2006, 01:42 PM


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