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*kryogenix*
post Dec 23 2005, 11:00 PM
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Do you view Kwanzaa as a real holiday, or a joke?
 
 
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*tweeak*
post Dec 28 2005, 02:18 AM
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I can understand the joke. Yes, the principles are good, but in reality, how many people buy it? Most people don't really know what it is, as schools often do little to dispell the opinion that it's some sort of black religious holiday. It's all a matter of political correctness. I have yet to meet anyone who actually celebrates Kwanzaa and yet he whole winter holiday thing must to Christmas, Hanukkah...oh yeah, and Kwanzaa too. Nate, you say that the value of it is not based on popularity, but is a holiday worth anything if it isn't recognized? Doesn't that make it about as worth while as say Secretarys' Day? It's a national holiday, so obviously there was a foundation for its creation initially, but in reality the importance is measured in how many people care. Additionally, does this not also toe the line of racism? In loo of things like Black History Month and Affirmative Action, these are not moving us any closer to rquality, which should be the ultimate goal. By creating all of these "oppertunities" and "empowerments" for African Americans both as individuals and as a community, it only keeps the divide between the races open. We as Americans cannot spend all eternity making amends for the past. Racism cannot be blamed for everything, and reverse racism is still racism. While I'm getting off on a bit of a tangent now, it seems that Kwanzaa is another attempt to boost black morale in order for them to get ahead. It does seem a bit off, though, because all cultures would benefit from the principles, and to confine them to one race seems counter-productive. Similarly, the celebration seems out of place in today's society. By forcing recognition on everyone, it will only get mocked and attract eye rolls at it's mention- both by blacks and other races alike. The part of the African American community that could best benefit from Kwanzaa is the part that does the best job of ignoring it, while much of the remainder has risen above the challanges and converged with the rest of the society, making a race-specific celebration unnecessary. While Kwanzaa originally served its purpose when it was introduced, it seems to have become obsolete in its isolationism.
 

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kryogenix   kwanzaa   Dec 23 2005, 11:00 PM
illumineering   We would all benefit from an active recognition of...   Dec 23 2005, 11:47 PM
kryogenix   Well, it's not even an African holiday. It was...   Dec 24 2005, 02:08 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2005, 3:08 PM)Well, ...   Dec 24 2005, 03:33 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Dec 24 2005, 3:33 PM)Of...   Dec 24 2005, 03:51 PM
acid_high   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2005, 3:08 PM)Well, ...   Dec 30 2005, 12:32 PM
illumineering   QUOTEI didn't say it was religious. However, t...   Dec 24 2005, 04:35 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Dec 24 2005, 4:35 PM)Hu...   Dec 27 2005, 11:43 AM
insomniac   how can you see that its fake...? thats like sayin...   Dec 24 2005, 08:21 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   Kyrogenix, you're fighting a string of logical...   Dec 24 2005, 08:37 PM
sadolakced acid   kwanzaa has always struck me as an artificial holi...   Dec 25 2005, 01:48 AM
yo pusha   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 24 2005, 10:48 PM...   Dec 28 2005, 07:45 PM
tweeak   I can understand the joke. Yes, the principles are...   Dec 28 2005, 02:18 AM
BrandonSaunders   I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. I don't need a ...   Dec 28 2005, 08:20 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Dec 28 2005, 8:20 PM)...   Dec 28 2005, 09:51 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 28 2005, 8:51 PM)The way C...   Dec 29 2005, 07:49 AM
pandamonium   i am not of african american descent but i celebra...   Dec 28 2005, 09:47 PM
tweeak   Eh, I didn't mean to go into an explanation of...   Dec 29 2005, 11:41 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 29 2005, 10:41 AM)Eh, I di...   Dec 29 2005, 07:06 PM
artislife90   Anything you want to celebrate can be a holiday if...   Dec 31 2005, 06:58 AM
vash1530   ^you have the right to call anything you want a jo...   Jan 1 2006, 12:52 AM
MF Doom   Holidays are rooted in religion for the most part....   Jan 5 2006, 04:25 AM


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