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"happy holidays" vs. "merry christmas"
Mulder
post Dec 19 2005, 09:05 PM
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ok, i know that people are talking about this in the lounge, so i understand if a mod closes this, but i wanted to know how everyone felt about saying "happy holidays" or "merry christmas"

saying merry christmas can be offensive to non-christians. im not saying it offends everyone, but i'm sure there are some that don't like it.

how is "happy holidays" disrespectful to anyone? it encompasses all the holidays in winter.

december is not christmas. christmas is one day. hannukah is 8 days. i believe (and im sorry if im wrong) that kwanzaa is 7 days??.

so why is christmas so important, and why are some christians making such a big deal out of saying "merry christmas"?
 
 
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bijou
post Dec 22 2005, 11:59 PM
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I think the debate is asinine. Yes, Christmas from a religious standpoint is celebrated by Christians but the Christians complaining fail to realize how secular Christmas has become. So, what do they think they're accomplishing by insisting on Merry Christmas being used? Is this another form of proselytising? LMAO!

I'm Christian although I don't practice but even if I was, I wouldn't be offended. Either greeting is just fine with me.
 
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post Dec 23 2005, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(bijou @ Dec 22 2005, 11:59 PM)
I think the debate is asinine. Yes, Christmas from a religious standpoint is celebrated by Christians but the Christians complaining fail to realize how secular Christmas has become. So, what do they think they're accomplishing by insisting on Merry Christmas being used? Is this another form of proselytising? LMAO!

I'm Christian although I don't practice but even if I was, I wouldn't be offended. Either greeting is just fine with me.
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yes, I am a Christian and also "pratice" it.....
and it doesnt offend me.
I also heard that the word "holiday" comes for "Holy day" so people saying "Happy Holidays" is like saying "happy holy days" or holy day.

Here's some quotes I found from some sites:
"People whose noses are bent out of shape by "Happy Holidays" can take comfort in the origin of the word "holiday." It was born early in the evolution of the English language. It came into Old English as halidaeg, or "holy day."

"I'm sure that there are many who would like to take the X out of Xmas and replace it with the proper word, Christmas. But, as is indicated in the Encyclopedia Britannica, the X in Xmas does not come from our English alphabet. Rather, it is the Greek letter that looks like the English X but is pronounced "Chi". It has been, for several centuries, a symbol for the word "Christos," the Greek word for Christ.

In other words, Xmas should be pronounced Christmas.

Oh, and by the way, the word "holiday" comes from the words "holy day." So, if someone had wished you a "happy holiday" many years ago, he/she would be saying, "Have a happy holy day." The term has, of course, been somewhat secularized but, nevertheless, it has a religious foundation."

"The word holiday has related but different meanings in English-speaking countries. Based on the Old English words holy and day (halig dæg), holidays originally represented special religious days. The word has evolved in general usage to mean any special day."

So yeah, shrug.gif people are silly.....especially during Christmas.
 
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post Dec 24 2005, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(StanleyThePanda @ Dec 23 2005, 5:40 PM)
Oh, and by the way, the word "holiday" comes from the words "holy day." So, if someone had wished you a "happy holiday" many years ago, he/she would be saying, "Have a happy holy day." The term has, of course, been somewhat secularized but, nevertheless, it has a religious foundation."

"The word holiday has related but different meanings in English-speaking countries. Based on the Old English words holy and day (halig dæg), holidays originally represented special religious days. The word has evolved in general usage to mean any special day."

So yeah, shrug.gif people are silly.....especially during Christmas.
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The origin of the word makes it all the more silly. People need to relax and ENJOY the holidays! Oops, must have offended someone. laugh.gif
 
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QUOTE(bijou @ Dec 24 2005, 12:34 AM)
The origin of the word makes it all the more silly. People need to relax and ENJOY the holidays! Oops, must have offended someone.  laugh.gif
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Oh, I dont mind, I was just saying. I do enjoy it and relax...I really dont care what people say shrug.gif _smile.gif
 

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_suzie_   i know a lot of nonchristians and atheists who sti...   Dec 20 2005, 01:16 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(_suzie_ @ Dec 20 2005, 1:16 PM)basicall...   Dec 20 2005, 04:46 PM
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Bobblehead425   this sign outside of mcdonalds around here said me...   Dec 21 2005, 05:11 PM
xblueradiance   You know, I think that being offended by either on...   Dec 21 2005, 08:15 PM
bijou   I think the debate is asinine. Yes, Christmas from...   Dec 22 2005, 11:59 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(bijou @ Dec 22 2005, 11:59 PM)I think t...   Dec 23 2005, 04:40 PM
bijou   QUOTE(StanleyThePanda @ Dec 23 2005, 5:40 PM)...   Dec 24 2005, 12:34 AM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(bijou @ Dec 24 2005, 12:34 AM)The origi...   Dec 24 2005, 10:23 PM
xl0stxThoughtx   Most people I know are Christian, so I say Merry C...   Dec 23 2005, 10:23 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   Only idiots complain against those two terms. I...   Dec 23 2005, 06:46 PM
itsnever4ever   you say merry christmas on christmas. you say happ...   Dec 23 2005, 06:57 PM
laylaivi   you say "merry christmas" because, that ...   Dec 23 2005, 07:20 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(laylaivi @ Dec 23 2005, 4:20 PM)you say...   Dec 24 2005, 01:56 AM
ComradeRed   As I returned from Chicago, I told the bus driver ...   Dec 23 2005, 08:59 PM
faded23   christmas isn't only for "christians...   Dec 23 2005, 09:01 PM
Chii   QUOTE(omgah_itsmaggiex @ Dec 26 2005, 7:42 PM...   Dec 26 2005, 10:02 PM
f4113n   HAPPY CHRISTMAHANUKWANZICA~!!   Dec 26 2005, 10:25 PM
medic   QUOTE(f4113n @ Dec 26 2005, 9:25 PM)HAPPY CHR...   Jan 8 2006, 06:06 PM
abstracted   QUOTEHAPPY CHRISTMAHANUKWANZICA~!! You for...   Dec 29 2005, 03:01 AM
vash1530   no its an xmas tree!   Dec 30 2005, 03:40 AM
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disco infiltrator   Yea, I go the way of "Happy general winter...   Jan 1 2006, 03:31 AM
vash1530   i think we should make xmas a national holiday so ...   Jan 1 2006, 03:57 AM
Stately Lover   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 1 2006, 12:57 AM)i think...   Jan 2 2006, 02:42 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Stately Lover @ Jan 2 2006, 2:42 PM)Lma...   Jan 2 2006, 09:41 PM
synthetic truths   happy holidays works..theres always someone who ge...   Jan 1 2006, 04:03 AM
MF Doom   Holidays are tools that the dark forces use to kee...   Jan 1 2006, 05:28 AM
xl0stxThoughtx   Merry Christmas.   Jan 1 2006, 08:58 PM
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