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*kryogenix*
post Dec 23 2005, 11:00 PM
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Do you view Kwanzaa as a real holiday, or a joke?
 
 
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post Dec 24 2005, 08:37 PM
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Kyrogenix, you're fighting a string of logical fallacies.

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The statistic proves that the majority of African Americans do not think it is a holiday worth celebrating. When the group that is supposed to be celebrating the holiday refuses to celebrate it, you kinda have to question its validity.


That's an argument from popularity. You are trying to discount the holiday by saying that it's not popular. So what? Popularity has nothing to do with the validity of any given proposition. The truth is not democratic.

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If they have validity across all cultures, why call it the principles of "BLACKNESS?" If I believed in those principles, would that make me more black than someone who didn't believe in them?


You're fighting a straw man argument now. You are misrepresenting the use of calling the principles "of blackness." People have already explained the significance of those words. Why are you ignoring that fact?

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What do his degrees and other credentials mean? It doesn't change the fact that he tortured two people and was convicted of felony charges. The fact that he associates with the Million Man March (and Louis Farrakhan) doesn't improve my opinion of him.


Argument from insult. You are attacking the man's character instead of investigating the holiday. Just because someone may be an "evil" man does not mean he can not be right. When debating, we oppose the argument not the arguer. It holds no value to attack a man's character when trying to discount his convictions. In this case, if you are trying to prove that Kwanzaa is somehow "invalid," you should focus on what exactly Kwanzaa is and what it teaches. Not, who teaches it, who practices it, or who doesn't teach or practice it.
 

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kryogenix   kwanzaa   Dec 23 2005, 11:00 PM
illumineering   We would all benefit from an active recognition of...   Dec 23 2005, 11:47 PM
kryogenix   Well, it's not even an African holiday. It was...   Dec 24 2005, 02:08 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2005, 3:08 PM)Well, ...   Dec 24 2005, 03:33 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Dec 24 2005, 3:33 PM)Of...   Dec 24 2005, 03:51 PM
acid_high   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2005, 3:08 PM)Well, ...   Dec 30 2005, 12:32 PM
illumineering   QUOTEI didn't say it was religious. However, t...   Dec 24 2005, 04:35 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Dec 24 2005, 4:35 PM)Hu...   Dec 27 2005, 11:43 AM
insomniac   how can you see that its fake...? thats like sayin...   Dec 24 2005, 08:21 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   Kyrogenix, you're fighting a string of logical...   Dec 24 2005, 08:37 PM
sadolakced acid   kwanzaa has always struck me as an artificial holi...   Dec 25 2005, 01:48 AM
yo pusha   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 24 2005, 10:48 PM...   Dec 28 2005, 07:45 PM
tweeak   I can understand the joke. Yes, the principles are...   Dec 28 2005, 02:18 AM
BrandonSaunders   I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. I don't need a ...   Dec 28 2005, 08:20 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Dec 28 2005, 8:20 PM)...   Dec 28 2005, 09:51 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 28 2005, 8:51 PM)The way C...   Dec 29 2005, 07:49 AM
pandamonium   i am not of african american descent but i celebra...   Dec 28 2005, 09:47 PM
tweeak   Eh, I didn't mean to go into an explanation of...   Dec 29 2005, 11:41 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 29 2005, 10:41 AM)Eh, I di...   Dec 29 2005, 07:06 PM
artislife90   Anything you want to celebrate can be a holiday if...   Dec 31 2005, 06:58 AM
vash1530   ^you have the right to call anything you want a jo...   Jan 1 2006, 12:52 AM
MF Doom   Holidays are rooted in religion for the most part....   Jan 5 2006, 04:25 AM


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