kwanzaa Options

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Do you view Kwanzaa as a real holiday, or a joke?

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I didn't say it was religious. However, the religion discourages celebrating other religious holidays at the time.

Huh? If it's not a religious celebration, this makes absloutely no sense. What is "the religion" refering to?

It's not a popularity poll. The statistic proves that the majority of African Americans do not think it is a holiday worth celebrating. When the group that is supposed to be celebrating the holiday refuses to celebrate it, you kinda have to question its validity.

Absolutely not. Its validity, as previously stated, has nothing to do with polls. The 6th commandment is Thou shalt not kill yet people support the "War on Terror." Polls and popular support are not necessarily an indication of validity or correctness.

If they have validity across all cultures, why call it the principles of "BLACKNESS?" If I believed in those principles, would that make me more black than someone who didn't believe in them?

Again, the principles are aimed at supporting that specific community. It's not about belief in the religious sense. It's about self-empowerment which, in the view of Dr. Karenga, is lost in the presence of western religion.

If you look closely, the principles coincide with marxist/socialist principles, which he picked up after his felony sentence.

Right. Examine his views of western religion and this makes sense. Why are you dwelling on his conviction? He served his time and paid his debt to society. George Bush was arrested for cocaine and was still elected president.

What do his degrees and other credentials mean? It doesn't change the fact that he tortured two people and was convicted of felony charges. The fact that he associates with the Million Man March (and Louis Farrakhan) doesn't improve my opinion of him.

I posted these in response to your fixation on Dr. Karenga's felony conviction. Since you feel it serves to invalidate his establishment of Kwanzaa, I posted them to offer a more well-rounded perspective of his actions and contributions to his community.