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post Dec 23 2005, 11:00 PM
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Do you view Kwanzaa as a real holiday, or a joke?
 
 
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post Dec 24 2005, 02:08 PM
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Well, it's not even an African holiday. It was made by Ron Karenga (a Black militant and convicted felon) in the 60's. Fewer than 2% celebrate it.

Also, Kwanzaa is not compatible with all African cultures, especially with North Africa, which practices Islam. Actually, it attempts to reject the other religious holidays.

Kwanzaa teaches the seven principles of blackness (I'm not even kidding). It is also evident of Karenga's marxist views.
 
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post Dec 24 2005, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2005, 3:08 PM)
Well, it's not even an African holiday. It was made by Ron Karenga (a Black militant and convicted felon) in the 60's. Fewer than 2% celebrate it.

Also, Kwanzaa is not compatible with all African cultures, especially with North Africa, which practices Islam. Actually, it attempts to reject the other religious holidays.

Kwanzaa teaches the seven principles of blackness (I'm not even kidding). It is also evident of Karenga's marxist views.
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Of course it's not an African holiday, Ron Karenga in an African American. Kwanzaa is NOT viewed as a religious practice, it is about culture. Cultures can embrace more than one religion. I didn't realize the validity of Kwanzaa, or any other celebration, was based on popularity polls.

The seven principles of blackness have validity across all cultures. The primary purpose of naming the principles was to empower the BLACK community. The naming of these principles was done in response to Karenga's negative views of western religion with respect to the BLACK community. As for being a convicted felon, Malcom X was as well. He served his time and has as much right as any other person to reenter society. That fact in no way invalidated his leadership among the African American community. If you read Karenga's biography, he also has 2 doctorate degrees, written several books, chaired CSULA's Dept. of Black Studies and was involved in the establishment of the Milliion Man March.
 

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kryogenix   kwanzaa   Dec 23 2005, 11:00 PM
illumineering   We would all benefit from an active recognition of...   Dec 23 2005, 11:47 PM
kryogenix   Well, it's not even an African holiday. It was...   Dec 24 2005, 02:08 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2005, 3:08 PM)Well, ...   Dec 24 2005, 03:33 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Dec 24 2005, 3:33 PM)Of...   Dec 24 2005, 03:51 PM
acid_high   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 24 2005, 3:08 PM)Well, ...   Dec 30 2005, 12:32 PM
illumineering   QUOTEI didn't say it was religious. However, t...   Dec 24 2005, 04:35 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Dec 24 2005, 4:35 PM)Hu...   Dec 27 2005, 11:43 AM
insomniac   how can you see that its fake...? thats like sayin...   Dec 24 2005, 08:21 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   Kyrogenix, you're fighting a string of logical...   Dec 24 2005, 08:37 PM
sadolakced acid   kwanzaa has always struck me as an artificial holi...   Dec 25 2005, 01:48 AM
yo pusha   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 24 2005, 10:48 PM...   Dec 28 2005, 07:45 PM
tweeak   I can understand the joke. Yes, the principles are...   Dec 28 2005, 02:18 AM
BrandonSaunders   I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. I don't need a ...   Dec 28 2005, 08:20 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Dec 28 2005, 8:20 PM)...   Dec 28 2005, 09:51 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 28 2005, 8:51 PM)The way C...   Dec 29 2005, 07:49 AM
pandamonium   i am not of african american descent but i celebra...   Dec 28 2005, 09:47 PM
tweeak   Eh, I didn't mean to go into an explanation of...   Dec 29 2005, 11:41 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 29 2005, 10:41 AM)Eh, I di...   Dec 29 2005, 07:06 PM
artislife90   Anything you want to celebrate can be a holiday if...   Dec 31 2005, 06:58 AM
vash1530   ^you have the right to call anything you want a jo...   Jan 1 2006, 12:52 AM
MF Doom   Holidays are rooted in religion for the most part....   Jan 5 2006, 04:25 AM


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