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Wal-Mart Confronted on 'Happy Holidays'
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post Dec 18 2005, 12:36 AM
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Wal-Mart Confronted on 'Happy Holidays'
SACRAMENTO, Calif. - A group of religious protesters demonstrated outside a Wal-Mart superstore Saturday, hoping to turn away customers by calling attention to the retailer's decision to use "happy holidays" rather than "merry Christmas" in its seasonal advertising.

But even shoppers who agreed with the protesters weren't willing to interrupt their quest for holiday deals.

"I believe in Christ, and I don't like the use of 'xmas' or the use of 'happy holidays,'" said Steven Van Noy, 39, as he left the store loaded down with packages. "The bottom line is that they had what I needed at Wal-Mart, so I went to Wal-Mart to buy it."

Controversy over the secularization of Christmas is nothing new, but this year religious groups are publicly taking on retailers who have decided to tone down the religious aspects of the holiday in their store decorations and promotional material.

In an online petition, the American Family Association recently gathered more than 500,000 signatures asking Target to include Christmas in its promotions. Stores such as Sears and Wal-Mart are facing boycotts.

Wal-Mart spokeswoman Amy Wyatt said the company has made no effort to remove Christmas from its holiday ads. She said a promotion set to run from mid-November to early January was simply misunderstood: its slogan is "home for the holidays."

"It was a matter of choosing a slogan that carries through the entire season," Wyatt said. "The signs went up before Thanksgiving and won't be taken down until after New Year's. The idea was to focus on the family."

About 50 protesters took part in Saturday's demonstration, organized by religious leaders. d**k Otterstad of the Church of the Divide donned a Santa Claus costume and greeted shoppers with the message: Don't forget about the meaning of Christmas.

"It is insulting that Wal-Mart has chosen to ignore the reason for the season," Otterstad said. "Taking the word 'Christmas' out of the holiday implies there's something sinful about it. ... This is a part of our culture."


what is the big deal with "happy holidays"? not everyone celebrates christmas, have these people not heard of kwanzaa or hanukkah? "happy holidays" just covers all the bases.
 
 
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post Dec 19 2005, 10:07 PM
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Hmm... I should Google this and see what sort of results I get.
 
Spirited Away
post Dec 19 2005, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 19 2005, 10:07 PM)
Fae... wub.gif hug.gif
Hmm... I should Google this and see what sort of results I get.
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 6 2005, 9:48 AM)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10355980/
Cracks me up that this is a religious free country, but many petty jealousies conveniently put a cap on that which the US Constitution so clearly states. There are fanatics, like a Mr. Wildmon, who would be miffed that the President helped Muslims celebrate Ramadan and wish his friends and family a "Happy Holiday Season". It seems this man is unreasonably jealous that Muslims have a place in the White House. And while Rev Jerry Falwell may believe that this is a nation "under God", not every citizen—with the same rights to liberty as he, believes so. It is discriminating, demeaningly so when he tries to pass it off as a fact. However, the one truth that we must all be subjected to, as it is HISTORY and the LAW, is the United States of America was founded on the basis of religious freedom, not the freedom to worship God alone.
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flowers.gif The MSNBC link was an interesting read, but it expired. You can google on Bush and Happy Holiday cards and something should pop up.

Edit> here is the article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5120601900.html

QUOTE(Stephire @ Dec 19 2005, 10:21 PM)
We live in a free enterprise nation where dominance rules.
Hence voting.
That's why it was brought up.
I'm a chick...:S
Anyway this all boils down to the AGE OLD question, Freedom or equality;;Free Enterprise or Communism?
I want the freedom to say Merry Christmas, and I want others to have the freedom to be able to say Happy Hannukkah or Merry Kwanza.
I'm not going to say "Happy Holidays" just to make other people happy.
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So it makes sense then to consider that free enterprise should allow Happy Holidays to be used since it encompasses a respect for all religions, thus giving a competitive advantage since all target markets can relate to "holidays" and not something religion specific like "Christmas".
You have the right to say Merry Christmas just as everyone else has the right to say Happy Holidays. Again, if you work for a company that CHOOSES not to allow employees to say Merry Christmas, quit and find one that will.
 
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post Dec 19 2005, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 19 2005, 10:40 PM)
You have the right to say Merry Christmas just as everyone else has the right to say Happy Holidays. Again, if you work for a company that CHOOSES not to allow employees to say Merry Christmas, quit and find one that will.
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Not really. My whole choir group(choir is also my second hour) got bitched at by pinchy liberals in the park for saying Merry Christmas at the end of our concert. Pfft. I can't quit school. It was a christmas concert and we got yelled at, them threatening "sewing" the teachers for not teaching us "right". WTF@That.
 

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Chii   Wal-Mart Confronted on 'Happy Holidays'   Dec 18 2005, 12:36 AM
Cake.   Exactly. Maybe people who don't celebrate Chri...   Dec 18 2005, 12:45 AM
medic   QUOTE(Cake. @ Dec 17 2005, 11:45 PM)Exactly. ...   Dec 21 2005, 01:00 AM
Hiphop d[-_-]b   Wth. Thats so stupid. Why do they want to single o...   Dec 18 2005, 12:51 AM
Stephire   Oi vey. This is ghey. I'm tired of the whole ...   Dec 18 2005, 12:53 AM
Rachel is love   QUOTE(Stephire @ Dec 17 2005, 11:53 PM)Oi vey...   Dec 18 2005, 10:38 AM
Stephire   QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Dec 18 2005, 10:38 AM)...   Dec 19 2005, 01:52 AM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Stephire @ Dec 19 2005, 1:52 AM)5. Chri...   Dec 19 2005, 08:24 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Stephire @ Dec 19 2005, 1:52 AM)3.The T...   Dec 19 2005, 09:04 PM
Rachel is love   QUOTE(Stephire @ Dec 19 2005, 12:52 AM)1.I do...   Dec 20 2005, 03:46 PM
Stephire   QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Dec 20 2005, 3:46 PM)1...   Dec 20 2005, 06:03 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(Stephire @ Dec 20 2005, 6:03 PM)Woooow,...   Dec 20 2005, 08:06 PM
Stephire   QUOTE(xcaitlinx @ Dec 20 2005, 8:06 PM)you...   Dec 20 2005, 08:21 PM
emazing   Ehhck, that's pretty pointless, honestly. Who ...   Dec 18 2005, 01:11 AM
Heathasm   thats how they are down here, too. even doctors an...   Dec 18 2005, 01:48 AM
KissMe2408   I hate this whole fight or whatever. It is incredi...   Dec 18 2005, 03:46 AM
stephinika   ^^ i agree about the santa claus bit. but these pe...   Dec 18 2005, 03:49 AM
Tribal J_Rome   people are idiots. dec. 25 isn't called HOLIDA...   Dec 18 2005, 03:59 AM
yanners   that's ridiculous. actually, christmas is no ...   Dec 18 2005, 04:24 AM
-lana   QUOTEwhat is the big deal with "happy holiday...   Dec 18 2005, 09:57 AM
xcaitlinx   Another perfect example of ignorant Christians.   Dec 18 2005, 03:01 PM
sharpandcuddly   I think it's funny. Everyone is protesting ab...   Dec 18 2005, 11:21 PM
boozLe   ridiculous. the only reason wal-mart uses "ha...   Dec 19 2005, 02:13 AM
klumzy   these retards need to read the politically correct...   Dec 19 2005, 02:15 AM
jooleeah   I heard about this on the news. The whole thing is...   Dec 19 2005, 10:55 AM
mzkandi   Happy Holidays encompasses everyone and not just a...   Dec 19 2005, 10:58 AM
Teesa   QUOTE(mzkandi @ Dec 19 2005, 10:58 AM)Happy H...   Dec 19 2005, 03:29 PM
celticsluvr   thats boooottyy. hes stupid   Dec 19 2005, 11:10 AM
Frankie   okay..wow. more mother f**king christians pissing ...   Dec 19 2005, 11:10 AM
klumzy   QUOTE(Frankie @ Dec 19 2005, 11:10 AM)okay..w...   Dec 21 2005, 02:50 AM
Retrogressive   QUOTE(klumzy @ Dec 21 2005, 2:50 AM)not all c...   Dec 21 2005, 04:16 AM
mouse_3k   I think they are wasting their time. how pointless...   Dec 19 2005, 11:22 AM
sadolakced acid   it's amazing how vocal the misinformed can be....   Dec 19 2005, 08:07 PM
digital.fragrance   I wish people would just say, "merry christma...   Dec 19 2005, 08:50 PM
insomniac   ok, i have a question. how is it being disrespect...   Dec 19 2005, 08:56 PM
digital.fragrance   It's not - it's just the push to get rid o...   Dec 19 2005, 08:57 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 19 2005, 8:57 P...   Dec 19 2005, 09:01 PM
digital.fragrance   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 19 2005, 9:01 PM)how is...   Dec 19 2005, 09:10 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 19 2005, 9:10 P...   Dec 19 2005, 09:17 PM
digital.fragrance   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 19 2005, 9:17 PM)4. Tha...   Dec 19 2005, 09:21 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 19 2005, 9:21 P...   Dec 19 2005, 09:51 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 19 2005, 9:51 PM)4. And...   Dec 19 2005, 09:53 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 19 2005, 9:10 P...   Dec 19 2005, 10:03 PM
Stephire   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 19 2005, 10:03 PM)5...   Dec 19 2005, 10:21 PM
sadolakced acid   jesus liked to get chitty chitty with the bang ban...   Dec 19 2005, 09:10 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 19 2005, 9:10 PM)...   Dec 19 2005, 09:10 PM
Days Nearly Over   I've always put it this way... I'm Chris...   Dec 19 2005, 09:24 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(Frankie @ Dec 19 2005, 11:10 AM)re-godd...   Dec 19 2005, 10:02 PM
mona lisa   Fae... Hmm... I should Google this and see what...   Dec 19 2005, 10:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 19 2005, 10:07 PM)Fae.....   Dec 19 2005, 10:40 PM
Stephire   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 19 2005, 10:40 PM)Y...   Dec 19 2005, 10:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Stephire @ Dec 19 2005, 10:43 PM)Not re...   Dec 19 2005, 10:46 PM
Stephire   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 19 2005, 10:46 PM)S...   Dec 19 2005, 10:49 PM
digital.fragrance   QUOTE3) Actually, it is quite certain and agreed b...   Dec 20 2005, 10:20 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 20 2005, 10:20 ...   Dec 20 2005, 10:40 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 20 2005, 7:06 P...   Dec 20 2005, 08:07 PM
digital.fragrance   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 20 2005, 8:07 PM)Wh...   Dec 20 2005, 09:09 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 20 2005, 9:09 P...   Dec 20 2005, 10:25 PM
digital.fragrance   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 20 2005, 10:25 PM)Y...   Dec 21 2005, 10:55 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(digital.fragrance @ Dec 21 2005, 10:55 ...   Dec 21 2005, 11:41 AM
Retrogressive   It's not political corectness, it's just n...   Dec 20 2005, 10:52 AM
vash1530   wow some ppl are so stupid. r u really gonna waste...   Dec 20 2005, 11:46 AM
amm0439   QUOTEHappy Holidays encompasses everyone and not j...   Dec 20 2005, 11:52 AM
Jorge   A'men. Putting Christ back in Christmas.   Dec 20 2005, 03:58 PM
digital.fragrance   QUOTE3) Christmas is still very much Christian if ...   Dec 20 2005, 07:06 PM
Retrogressive   ^^ They are fighting for what they believe in. Alt...   Dec 20 2005, 10:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Dec 20 2005, 10:27 PM)^...   Dec 20 2005, 10:34 PM
Retrogressive   No it's absolutly narrow-minded and self-cente...   Dec 20 2005, 10:39 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Dec 20 2005, 10:39 PM)N...   Dec 20 2005, 10:43 PM
Frankie   should i move this to the debate forum now or late...   Dec 21 2005, 02:29 AM
Retrogressive   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 20 2005, 10:43 PM)A...   Dec 21 2005, 02:41 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(Jorge @ Dec 20 2005, 2:58 PM)A'men....   Dec 21 2005, 07:06 AM
Retrogressive   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 21 2005, 7:06 AM)...   Dec 21 2005, 07:30 AM
vash1530   xmas ppl! we should all celebrate xmas like in...   Dec 21 2005, 07:11 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Dec 21 2005, 2:41 AM)--...   Dec 21 2005, 10:28 AM
Retrogressive   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 21 2005, 10:28 AM)I...   Dec 21 2005, 10:36 AM
xnofearx   America is a mixed nation. Christmas isn't the...   Dec 21 2005, 11:36 AM
Frankie   QUOTE(klumzy @ Dec 21 2005, 1:50 AM)not all c...   Dec 21 2005, 01:09 PM
klumzy   QUOTE(Frankie @ Dec 21 2005, 1:09 PM)us..? i...   Dec 22 2005, 02:56 AM
dreamergirl   This whole thing is a scheme my eztreme liberals t...   Dec 22 2005, 03:04 PM
sadolakced acid   if you read the thread, you can find out why you...   Dec 22 2005, 03:16 PM
dreamergirl   Christians arnt trying to advertise God to people ...   Dec 22 2005, 03:18 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(dreamergirl @ Dec 22 2005, 3:18 PM)Chri...   Dec 22 2005, 04:09 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(dreamergirl @ Dec 22 2005, 3:18 PM)Chri...   Dec 22 2005, 08:11 PM
skp86   Gosh, those darn religous fanatics   Dec 22 2005, 06:33 PM


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