What do u think:, is the bible all bullsh!t? Options

[add1cted2f1re]

Ok, we read this story called Gilgamesh if you haven't read it, google it. But basically its about this guy who wants to be immortal, and his dad tells him that one of the gods told him that a giant flood was coming to wipe out humanity.
(sound familiar?)
well... guess what he did? yep, he made a boat, filled it with his family and animals. then, when they grounded, he set out a bird to find land. blah blah blah, he repopulates the earth.

ok... now tell me that doesnt sound familiar.

I think the bible is full of crap. Whoever wrote it (probably a group of ppl) just got ideas from old stories. and dont say that the bible was written before Gilgamesh because Gilgamesh was written in early the BC's (like 2000bc)

anyone care to argue

i dont want to hear all you all calling athesiest and crap... cuz im not .

i believe in... a higher power, but i just think the bible is a bunch of nonsense

[NoSex]

The atrocities, detestables, and total disregard for practical ethics in more than half of the Bible is enough to cast doubt on it as a morally sophisticated peice of work. Which, it is not. It lacks originality and depth. It is also poisoned by great inconsistency.

It would be important to note that these morals do not first appear in biblical text. We see them long before in hinduistic text, and buddhistic teachings, as well as countless other pagan doctrines. We even see more sophisticared, and complex moral system within Hinduism. Even pacifism is considered.

British Common Law also predates 5th century christian influence. Our law is directly derived by Common Law, which Christianity had no part in forming.

Greek philosophy, before Christian influence, has been one of the most influence periods of philosophical thought on western society and philosophy. Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle specificly.

Both Plato and Aristotle wrote extensively on ethics. Predating christian influence, many of their ideas and trends are still part of western society. Even pre-socratic philosophers, such as Democritus, sophisticatingly discussed ethics. To suggest that ancient Greece was devoid of morality, seems rather shortsighted. All of these ancient philosophers, from Greece, and many more discussed morality.

But, these are not even the greatest issues I have with your argument. My main issue is that you try to build a cause and effect relationship between religion and morality. Which, just simply is not true. The irreligious are fully capable of being moral individuals, while the religious are fully capable of being immoral individuals. Often they are. Not only do you seem to build a bridge between contemporary morality and religion, but you even seem to point to Christianity as a specific contribution to morality in society. Such a correlation does not seem prevelant to me.

Also, the history of Christian influence also casts doubt on your conviction. From the Crusades to St. Thomas Aquinas advocating violence as a means to convert the masses, the idea that christianity inherently holds positive moral influence is greatly challenged. Morality is a personal choice, when it fails to be such, it fails to be a moral question. It then becomes a question of masked totalitarianistic ethical behavior. Morality is not a commandment, and as Ayn Rand once said, "The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments."

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