Free Tookie? Options

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On December 13th 2005, Stan Tookie Williams will be excuted.

Stan was the co-founder in 1971 of the Los Angeles Crips gang. In 1981 he was convicted of murdering four people during two robberies and sentenced to death row at San Quentin State Prison. Stan deeply regrets his gang involvement but has always maintained his innocence of these crimes.

Stanley "Tookie" Williams receives no money for having written the Tookie Speaks Out series and Life in Prison. He is donating proceeds to several non-profit organizations, including Mothers Against Gang Wars, located in South Central Los Angeles, California. All donations and grants given to The Institute For Prevention Of Youth Violence, a nonprofit entity, will go toward funding a diverse group of programs that will assist children in becoming responsible, successful and self-confident people.

My question is - Should Governor Schwarzenegger grant him clemency? In what situation should the Governor grant clemency?


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If your interested, here's a site dedicated to saving Tookie. http://www.savetookie.org/index.html

[AngryBaby]

life in prision is very cushy.

if i'm ever homeless and know i can't get death row, i'll rob a bank.

get away- you're rich.

get caught- free hotel forever. don't have to work if you're a murderer, cus they won't trust you with tools.

sounds like a nice retirement plan for gang members.

says the guy that has no idea what so ever what prison is like...

[Spirited Away]

says the guy that has no idea what so ever what prison is like...

Well, let see, you kill people and you go to a place where other criminals, who are most likely your friends, or people who share the same interest as you, hang out. The place has got recreation and sports, a library, opportunities to continue your education, though you have to do community work, you can relax to cable television since some prisons allow subscription. Although there are problems like prison gangs, I'm almost positive that a legend like Tookie Williams don't have much to worry about, unless they're rival gangs. Even if the latter is the case, I'm sure his life experience have taught him the proverbial "you reap what you sow".



edition: added "who are most likely your friends, or people who share the same interest as you".

This post has been edited by Spirited Away: Dec 14 2005, 11:48 PM

[Tribal J_Rome]

Well, let see, you kill people and you go to a place where other criminals hang out. The place has got recreation and sports, a library, opportunities to continue your education, though you have to do community work, you can relax to cable television since some prisons allow subscription. Although there are problems like prison gangs, I'm almost positive that a legend like Tookie Williams don't have much to worry about, unless they're rival gangs. Even if the latter is the case, I'm sure his life experience have taught him the proverbial "you reap what you sow".

you forgot about the part where the other inmates take turns playing buttdarts with you without you having to drop the soap

[Spirited Away]

you forgot about the part where the other inmates take turns playing buttdarts with you without you having to drop the soap

Are you telling me that someone at Tookie's legend status would suffer the same? I think not. Actually, it sounds like Tookie would have been the one throwing darts.