Free Tookie? Options

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On December 13th 2005, Stan Tookie Williams will be excuted.

Stan was the co-founder in 1971 of the Los Angeles Crips gang. In 1981 he was convicted of murdering four people during two robberies and sentenced to death row at San Quentin State Prison. Stan deeply regrets his gang involvement but has always maintained his innocence of these crimes.

Stanley "Tookie" Williams receives no money for having written the Tookie Speaks Out series and Life in Prison. He is donating proceeds to several non-profit organizations, including Mothers Against Gang Wars, located in South Central Los Angeles, California. All donations and grants given to The Institute For Prevention Of Youth Violence, a nonprofit entity, will go toward funding a diverse group of programs that will assist children in becoming responsible, successful and self-confident people.

My question is - Should Governor Schwarzenegger grant him clemency? In what situation should the Governor grant clemency?


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If your interested, here's a site dedicated to saving Tookie. http://www.savetookie.org/index.html

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I just read more on Mr. Tookie. It says he continued to participate in the crips even behind bars and would not give cops information on gang activities because he didn't want to be a snitch. I guess he hasn't changed as much as I thought he had.

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It says he continued to participate in the crips even behind bars and would not give cops information on gang activities because he didn't want to be a snitch.

or because he wanted to stay alive? although i dont believe tookie "changed", i do believe that a man could reform and not snitch. those 2 things are not dependant on each other

Unless you have real proof he actually did it, I don't think you should going around claiming he killed them.

dumbest statement ever. unless you have real proof that he didnt do it, then just exit this thread. smh. who has real proof that he didn't do it? tookie has been waiting on death row for more than 20 years, and his lawyers got 20 years to try and prove his innocence, and they couldn't. the only people who know if he is guilty or not are tookie himself, his associates, and the victims. and god i guess, if you believe in that kind of thing.

not be granted clemency on the basis that he's hasn't reformed.

yall act like a governor grants clemency the majority of the time. please. its not arnolds fault, he is just agreeing with the numerous courts that rejected williams. the last governor to grant clemency in the state of california i believe was ronald reagan. the last president that was not pro-death penalty was also reagan. and that was 1967. if tookie was granted clemency, then every immate could start writing books and "reforming" just so they wouldnt die.