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 Nov 27 2005, 07:57 PM
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On December 13th 2005, Stan Tookie Williams will be excuted.
QUOTE Stan was the co-founder in 1971 of the Los Angeles Crips gang. In 1981 he was convicted of murdering four people during two robberies and sentenced to death row at San Quentin State Prison. Stan deeply regrets his gang involvement but has always maintained his innocence of these crimes. Stanley "Tookie" Williams receives no money for having written the Tookie Speaks Out series and Life in Prison. He is donating proceeds to several non-profit organizations, including Mothers Against Gang Wars, located in South Central Los Angeles, California. All donations and grants given to The Institute For Prevention Of Youth Violence, a nonprofit entity, will go toward funding a diverse group of programs that will assist children in becoming responsible, successful and self-confident people. My question is - Should Governor Schwarzenegger grant him clemency? In what situation should the Governor grant clemency? ------------ If your interested, here's a site dedicated to saving Tookie. http://www.savetookie.org/index.html |
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Dec 10 2005, 02:52 PM
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 show me a garden thats bursting to life Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,303 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,987 |
Murder=Punishment.
No..he shouldn't be allowed to live. He shot 4 people, and started up a gang. Sure, he's changed, but he can't change what he's already done. |
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Dec 12 2005, 05:17 AM
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QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Dec 10 2005, 2:52 PM) Murder=Punishment. No..he shouldn't be allowed to live. He shot 4 people, and started up a gang. Sure, he's changed, but he can't change what he's already done.  And killing another person will not change what he has done either. Is it just me, but... doesn't killing another person for their mistakes and offenses in hopes for satisfaction seem kind of sick and barbaric, not to mention hypocritical? |
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Dec 12 2005, 06:25 PM
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show me a garden thats bursting to life Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,303 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,987 |
QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Dec 12 2005, 5:17 AM) And killing another person will not change what he has done either. Is it just me, but... doesn't killing another person for their mistakes and offenses in hopes for satisfaction seem kind of sick and barbaric, not to mention hypocritical? Okay..I was watching TV && this crazy lady said pretty much what you just said. By killing someone who has killed, that means we are basically supporting this killing business, right? I believe an eye for an eye, a life for a life, etc etc etc. He killed someone, the evidence says so..blah blah blah, and, well, if you do something wrong you should be punished. That simple. |
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Dec 12 2005, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Dec 12 2005, 4:25 PM) Okay..I was watching TV && this crazy lady said pretty much what you just said. By killing someone who has killed, that means we are basically supporting this killing business, right? I believe an eye for an eye, a life for a life, etc etc etc. He killed someone, the evidence says so..blah blah blah, and, well, if you do something wrong you should be punished. That simple. What if you kill a man, and later find out that he is innocent? Also, there is not enough hard evidense to prove Stanley did it. The only evidense provided is the shotgun shells during the shootings matching that of Stanley's shotgun. There were also witnesses that claimed hearing him saying that he had killed 4 people, but a few of those people were criminals themselfs. Go Figure. |
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let me post Free Tookie? Nov 27 2005, 07:57 PM
RiC3xBoy I think yes. He claims he is a changed man and I b... Nov 27 2005, 08:04 PM BrandonSaunders Depends.
I believe Tookie's changed, and I do... Nov 28 2005, 01:15 PM illumineering He's an unrepentant former gang leader and mur... Nov 28 2005, 02:18 PM
SyKoKiNeSiS QUOTE(illumineering @ Nov 28 2005, 12:18 PM)H... Dec 13 2005, 10:43 PM kryogenix What Tookie did was absolutely inexcusable and he ... Nov 28 2005, 08:37 PM _sarcastic_ well i don't think that it's a good idea i... Dec 3 2005, 08:35 AM sense.n.style ^same here. no matter wat the person did, nobody d... Dec 3 2005, 10:36 PM lakerfever2476 I actually think he SHOULD be executed. It wouldn... Dec 9 2005, 02:36 AM _sarcastic_ QUOTE(lakerfever2476 @ Dec 9 2005, 2:36 AM)He... Dec 9 2005, 07:20 AM Statistik are you guys f**king stupid? HE'S THE FOUNDER ... Dec 9 2005, 03:46 PM LiLCUTiEFR0MDAYAY i think NO . okay if he is free then what about th... Dec 10 2005, 12:36 PM sadolakced acid " don't join gangs and kill people kids ... Dec 10 2005, 12:43 PM BrandonSaunders I think he should rot in the hole, but I don't... Dec 10 2005, 01:29 PM swtcherriipie He should be executed im sorry but seriously hes j... Dec 10 2005, 01:41 PM xl0stxThoughtx I think he should be executed because he took peop... Dec 10 2005, 01:59 PM sheridan_whiteside QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Dec 12 2005, 5:25 PM)I beli... Dec 12 2005, 06:27 PM not_your_average QUOTE(sheridan_whiteside @ Dec 12 2005, 6:27 ... Dec 12 2005, 06:28 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(sheridan_whiteside @ Dec 12 2005, 6:27 ... Dec 13 2005, 09:41 PM not_your_average I am against the death penalty, so I believe he sh... Dec 10 2005, 02:55 PM radarkitty Buh-bye Tookie. Good riddance! Dec 12 2005, 01:32 AM lakerfever2476 Gosh, his days are numbered. if he doesn't get... Dec 12 2005, 02:07 AM disco infiltrator Why not try to rehabilitate him, or let him prove ... Dec 12 2005, 05:12 PM Kristinaa He's claiming he's been set up... Dec 12 2005, 07:15 PM RiC3xBoy Hmm....I guess no clemency
Schwarzenegger Denies ... Dec 12 2005, 07:20 PM Kristinaa ^ DAMN! you beat me.
No clemency. Dec 12 2005, 07:59 PM RiC3xBoy QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Dec 12 2005, 5:59 PM)^ DAMN... Dec 12 2005, 08:44 PM kryogenix Riots tonight. Dec 12 2005, 10:05 PM RiC3xBoy I heard LAPD has been getting some anonymous phone... Dec 12 2005, 10:16 PM Krunk_Muzik I think they should free him..but too late. He... Dec 12 2005, 11:24 PM sadolakced acid life in prision is very cushy.
if i'm ever ho... Dec 12 2005, 11:43 PM yo pusha i made an error in the topic title, i meant ... Dec 12 2005, 11:48 PM Tribal J_Rome QUOTE(yo pusha @ Dec 12 2005, 9:48 PM)but isn... Dec 13 2005, 02:09 AM Madame C QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Dec 12 2005, 7:20 PM)Hmm....... Dec 13 2005, 01:07 AM Funky Buddha There are no definities in life...killing really s... Dec 13 2005, 02:54 AM lakerfever2476 I kind of think Tookie has it the easy road. I kno... Dec 13 2005, 03:19 AM Funky Buddha The tragedy of all this, its gonna be endlessly re... Dec 13 2005, 03:27 AM lakerfever2476 ^ Well of course, no one dies "in peace... Dec 13 2005, 01:41 PM illumineering QUOTE(lakerfever2476 @ Dec 13 2005, 2:41 PM)^... Dec 13 2005, 08:06 PM sadolakced acid who's to say he won't die in peace except ... Dec 13 2005, 07:55 PM kryogenix I just read more on Mr. Tookie. It says he continu... Dec 13 2005, 08:07 PM yo pusha QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 13 2005, 5:07 PM)It say... Dec 13 2005, 09:27 PM RiC3xBoy QUOTE(yo pusha @ Dec 13 2005, 7:27 PM)dumbest... Dec 14 2005, 01:20 AM kryogenix QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Dec 14 2005, 1:20 AM)I don... Dec 14 2005, 03:31 PM RiC3xBoy Well Kyro, he claims he wont snitch because he doe... Dec 13 2005, 08:11 PM kryogenix QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Dec 13 2005, 8:11 PM)[b]Well... Dec 13 2005, 09:43 PM lakerfever2476 QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Dec 13 2005, 8:11 PM)Also, h... Dec 13 2005, 11:07 PM sadolakced acid innocenct untill proven guilty. but when proven g... Dec 14 2005, 01:47 AM Kristinaa ^ Some change.
Also..when he was..well...when he ... Dec 14 2005, 03:58 PM insomniac he was obviously an awful person. but being from t... Dec 14 2005, 04:02 PM EndlessSite I don't think they should have done what they ... Dec 14 2005, 04:14 PM Kristinaa QUOTE(EndlessSite @ Dec 14 2005, 4:14 PM)I do... Dec 14 2005, 04:15 PM EndlessSite QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Dec 14 2005, 4:15 PM)Last I... Dec 14 2005, 04:25 PM yo pusha QUOTE(EndlessSite @ Dec 14 2005, 1:25 PM)Didn... Dec 15 2005, 09:40 PM lakerfever2476 QUOTE(yo pusha @ Dec 15 2005, 9:40 PM)Man, du... Dec 16 2005, 12:05 AM Kristinaa HOW ON EARTH CAN KILLING FOUR PEOPLE POINT BLANK B... Dec 14 2005, 04:40 PM EndlessSite lol. Someone getting angry?
You want an example? ... Dec 14 2005, 05:15 PM illumineering QUOTE(EndlessSite @ Dec 14 2005, 6:15 PM)Some... Dec 14 2005, 07:13 PM EndlessSite *sigh* Pisses me off when someone judges without k... Dec 14 2005, 05:15 PM Kristinaa And I take it you know the background of Mr. Tooki... Dec 14 2005, 05:36 PM EndlessSite QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Dec 14 2005, 5:36 PM)And I ... Dec 14 2005, 05:49 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(EndlessSite @ Dec 14 2005, 5:49 PM)Yeah... Dec 14 2005, 10:27 PM sadolakced acid i'd like to remind you not to double post, jus... Dec 14 2005, 05:45 PM disco infiltrator Can you learn from something you're killed ove... Dec 14 2005, 05:48 PM sadolakced acid ^ just because a movie says frodo threw the ring ... Dec 14 2005, 05:55 PM EndlessSite QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 14 2005, 5:55 PM)... Dec 14 2005, 06:11 PM disco infiltrator Obviously not, seeing as we are still having to re... Dec 14 2005, 06:13 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(EndlessSite @ Dec 14 2005, 4:49 PM)No o... Dec 14 2005, 06:42 PM L!ckitySplit QUOTElife in prision is very cushy.
if i'm ev... Dec 14 2005, 10:44 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 14 2005, 10:44 P... Dec 14 2005, 10:58 PM Tribal J_Rome QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 14 2005, 8:58 PM)We... Dec 14 2005, 11:30 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Dec 14 2005, 11:30 PM)y... Dec 14 2005, 11:33 PM Tribal J_Rome ^well why don't u go to jail for 20+ years and... Dec 14 2005, 11:57 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Dec 14 2005, 11:57 PM)^... Dec 15 2005, 12:05 AM Tribal J_Rome QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 14 2005, 10:05 PM).... Dec 15 2005, 12:08 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Dec 15 2005, 12:08 AM)u... Dec 15 2005, 12:10 AM sadolakced acid kill enough people before going in and they don... Dec 15 2005, 12:01 AM Tribal J_Rome maaaaaannnnn. i just stated my point and u didn... Dec 15 2005, 12:19 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Dec 15 2005, 12:19 AM)m... Dec 15 2005, 12:21 AM sadolakced acid so you mean, because he thought he could evade jus... Dec 15 2005, 12:20 AM vash1530 he deserved to die and know hes dead so he got wha... Dec 16 2005, 07:46 AM |
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