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new hiring process, pros and cons
*incoherent*
post Dec 6 2005, 10:43 PM
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so, i was talking with someone about this about 2 minutes ago and wanted to know what everyone though of how it went being the first time it was implimented.

i didnt want to put this just randomly in another thread, i wanted it to be seen.

so, pros and cons.

pros
-i liked the idea of nominations.

cons
-nominations seemed like endorsements which we did away with due to the fact that only people were picking their friends. i did talk to many mods, and noted it for myself too, that mods werent nominating just friends. i was nominated by 3 people i didnt even talk to.

-not everyone seems to get their chance. just because they dont stand out, doesnt mean they shouldnt be given a shot. sure, there was the discussion thread, but how much of that was taken in when nominations were made?
 
 
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*mzkandi*
post Dec 9 2005, 10:18 PM
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The way I see it is the application process doesnt sway much in whether you get modded at all. Its all going to boil down to your overall presence on the forum, how you interact with other members, whether or not you stand out, activeness, how helpful you are around the boards (both for design and people), how long you've been a member and how much you have contributed to the site. I honestly think should we have had an actual application process with same people that were nominated the outcome would have been the same. The only thing I see about the traditional way is that is open it up for everyone pretty much. Personally, dont see anything wrong with that just like I dont see anything wrong nominations. In conclusion, the biggest draw about the traditional way is that everyone is considered and with nominations only the most qualifed are considered as deemed by mods. They both have pros and cons. With nominations there is a possiblity of overlooking somone (even though that is highly unlikely in my opinion considering all the mods we have), also, there is the possibiltiy of nominating someone for a positon they really dont want (for example nominating someone for Myspace staff when they really want to be People) in which case I say they should reject their nomination. With the traditional way, while everyone is considered, only the ones that really stand are going to be seriously considered. For example, when all the mods had our backstage discussion on the nominees some of the mods stated that some nominees didnt "stand out" . If some nominees dont stand out even when mods are nominating imagine how much more you must stand in the traditional process. Just a thought.
 

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incoherent   new hiring process   Dec 6 2005, 10:43 PM
gigiopolis   This is pretty long but take the time to read this...   Dec 6 2005, 10:55 PM
sadolakced acid   is a not popular member likely to be chosen as a m...   Dec 6 2005, 11:02 PM
gigiopolis   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 8:02 PM)i...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
incoherent   gigi, i was honestly thinking the same thing, i ju...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
Fabio.   Pros + Nominations = good. I like how some people...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ however, (certain) mods are who ultimately choo...   Dec 6 2005, 11:10 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 10:10 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 12:06 AM
gigiopolis   That's what I hate about debating with you, Ju...   Dec 6 2005, 11:15 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ however, a newbie who hasn't posted a lot i...   Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM)...   Dec 6 2005, 11:59 PM
disco infiltrator   I visit the Design forums a lot and I don't th...   Dec 6 2005, 11:58 PM
insomniac   we all know that i wasnt particularly happy with t...   Dec 6 2005, 11:58 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(insomniac)member discussion: the community w...   Dec 7 2005, 12:03 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 7 2005, 12:03 A...   Dec 7 2005, 12:06 AM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 7 2005, 12:06 AM)i comp...   Dec 7 2005, 12:13 AM
disco infiltrator   We used the community input, but they basically sa...   Dec 7 2005, 12:13 AM
disco infiltrator   It overlooks those that deserve to be overlooked. ...   Dec 7 2005, 12:19 AM
KissMe2408   ^yah i agree mods should stand out to be good lead...   Dec 7 2005, 12:24 AM
gigiopolis   Sammi, I think my point is extremely valid. I real...   Dec 7 2005, 01:10 AM
incoherent   thats what i was talking to meli about. this syste...   Dec 7 2005, 01:16 PM
Heathasm   pros: the nominations were great because people th...   Dec 7 2005, 01:52 PM
sadolakced acid   but there is more than one mod. so if someone sta...   Dec 7 2005, 04:28 PM
disco infiltrator   Who do you guys think was overlooked?... I mean.....   Dec 7 2005, 04:41 PM
mzkandi   I dont give a flying pigs which way its done as lo...   Dec 7 2005, 06:30 PM
insomniac   QUOTEOh and one more thing I would like to add. If...   Dec 7 2005, 07:09 PM
incoherent   alright, so here's what i was thinking. maybe...   Dec 7 2005, 07:34 PM
mzkandi   ^ Hold both??...nah, I dont think so. What would ...   Dec 7 2005, 07:41 PM
incoherent   well, in toyas case...she would never apply becaus...   Dec 7 2005, 08:02 PM
KissMe2408   ^x2 I agree, if you have the application process, ...   Dec 7 2005, 08:07 PM
sadolakced acid   if it had been applications i certainly would not ...   Dec 7 2005, 08:20 PM
Heathasm   QUOTEI really do respect that that is your opinion...   Dec 7 2005, 08:23 PM
disco infiltrator   You guys are missing the point of the nominations ...   Dec 8 2005, 12:07 AM
Libertie   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 7 2005, 11:07 P...   Dec 8 2005, 12:48 AM
insomniac   i dont see why you have to stand out. for a design...   Dec 8 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 7 2005, 11:18 PM)i dont...   Dec 8 2005, 01:07 AM
gigiopolis   ^ Not a lot of people go in design forums, it...   Dec 8 2005, 01:12 AM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Dec 8 2005, 1:12 AM)Howeve...   Dec 8 2005, 01:39 AM
sadolakced acid   then why not just have people submit thier names? ...   Dec 8 2005, 01:24 AM
sadolakced acid   but what benefit does making people write "on...   Dec 8 2005, 01:51 AM
disco infiltrator   I really disliked applications. Either people thou...   Dec 8 2005, 08:46 PM
insomniac   QUOTEAnd Michelle, I agree with Justin. Design peo...   Dec 9 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid   do we all remember the applications: SAMPLE APPLI...   Dec 9 2005, 06:15 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 9 2005, 6:15 PM)d...   Dec 9 2005, 06:27 PM
mona lisa   For Design-related Staff, it's obvious that yo...   Dec 9 2005, 06:55 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 9 2005, 6:55 PM)For Des...   Dec 9 2005, 07:08 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 9 2005, 7:08 PM)i wasnt...   Dec 9 2005, 09:08 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 9 2005, 9:08 PM)Again, ...   Dec 9 2005, 09:12 PM
mzkandi   The way I see it is the application process doesnt...   Dec 9 2005, 10:18 PM
incoherent   alright...so if everyone is against writing out a ...   Dec 9 2005, 10:37 PM
disco infiltrator   Why do people have to nominate themselves? Everyo...   Dec 9 2005, 11:23 PM
mzkandi   ^But didnt even you say some qualifed member may b...   Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid   i mean in addition to nominations the way they wer...   Dec 10 2005, 12:34 AM
mzkandi   Then whats the point in nominating at all. I think...   Dec 10 2005, 12:38 AM
sadolakced acid   well, i think application should be: i wish to be...   Dec 10 2005, 01:13 AM
incoherent   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 12:13 AM...   Dec 10 2005, 01:18 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 AM)...   Dec 10 2005, 12:09 PM
mzkandi   Self nominating....hmmm.. See I thought this was a...   Dec 10 2005, 01:17 AM
sadolakced acid   well, i think people should be able to request tha...   Dec 10 2005, 01:23 AM
mzkandi   So, have the qualifed and the not so qualifed nomi...   Dec 10 2005, 01:26 AM
mzkandi   If thats the case, I support the fact that if you ...   Dec 10 2005, 12:13 PM
not_your_average   I agree with Sammi more. I didn't like apps at...   Dec 10 2005, 12:30 PM
sadolakced acid   keep nominations like now, except add a thread whe...   Dec 10 2005, 01:13 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 01:15 PM
disco infiltrator   I don't see why you need to do that. The way w...   Dec 10 2005, 01:26 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 10 2005, 1:26 P...   Dec 10 2005, 01:28 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ but if they're nominated they might change ...   Dec 10 2005, 02:29 PM
insomniac   i dont think they'd change their minds. maybe...   Dec 10 2005, 03:28 PM
RupertGrintluvr15   Pros: New staff members Cons: Take into considera...   Dec 27 2005, 07:29 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(RupertGrintluvr15 @ Dec 27 2005, 7:29 P...   Dec 30 2005, 02:31 PM
Guest   that pro is silly. ANY new hiring process would gi...   Dec 28 2005, 07:06 AM
Guest   so, we shouldnt review things after, to make sure ...   Dec 30 2005, 04:41 PM
disco infiltrator   I do believe there were some incidents in which ot...   Jan 1 2006, 02:27 PM


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