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EddieV
post Nov 22 2005, 11:24 AM
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The new Nintendo Revolution's Controller looks really interesting. Nintendo said they want to change the way we play video games. I think out of the three system, Nintendo to me looks the most promising. The X-Box 360 only has a few new features and slightly better graphics. But basically everything is the same. Here's a link to the Nintendo Revolution's new controller.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782
 
 
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AngryBaby
post Dec 9 2005, 09:22 PM
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im gone for a few seconds and already you think i got "shutdown" you obviously werent listening to him, he said hypocrits because you guys were saying how we cant judge it until it comes out, yet you guys can say how fun it will be. thats what he meant by the hypocracy.

now i actually found out today that one of my friends got the oppurtunity to play an import of the rev. with the controller. but ill get to his review in a second.

kryo you talk up nintendo now like it was the top system last generation. sure, back in the day nintendo was the man. but it really had no competition. now that it has two competitors, they have beaten nintendo in sales, scores, reviews, and fans. and its not like i dont like nintendo, im just being real. now nintendos is being deemed as "more of a childrens title" which may or may not be true, but still is being said. and you probably know this.

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The point is not to take over, its not to put Sony and M$ out of business. The point of the thing is to change the way people think about gaming, to create a more intuitive and immersive gaming experience, and to allow not only the supposed hardcore gamers to play, but casual and nongamers as well.


sorry, wrong, nintendo's not that out of touch with the real world. this is a business strategy, a clever but incredibly risky one. because with the attitude that you listed, nintendo would go out of business. nintendo didnt have the best year for the gamecube, and people speculated and made rumors that nintendo will be gone like Sega ( for example the thread about apple buying nintendo). do you honestly think nintendo doesnt care about this? thats why they need something different, something that sets them apart that may still give them a fighting chance, which is this controller. because really, without this controller(incredibly flawed or not) what really makes nintendo interesting now? because we have two top systems having everyones attention that everyone is talking about and is excentric about. while nintendo, having less than sadisfactory years with the Cube and being deemed as kiddie, no one is even paying much attention to it, especially to consider buying it over a PS3 or 360. except its fewer percentage of loyal fans. and i say fewer because if it was a high percentage, gamecube would still be at the top. this is a average and sensible thing to do. but nintendo decides to mess with the controller. not a little bit like in the past where people went "oooh cool" but made it so that it changes everything where your casual gamer will go "what the hell" which may not be the best thing to do (which i think is an incredibly stupid move on their part) nintendo made a remote to bring something less intimidating, more familiar to the "casual gamer" but, how "casual" do they think they are? after about 10 years i think people got used to controllers by now. now i asked the kind of people that nintendo is trying to pull into gaming what they think of this controller, after telling them everything that it cand do, the "kind of people" were...my parents. my dad said, "eh, not something i wanna play with," he saw a picture of it also."that...looks more awkward than fun, i dont know what nintendo is doing now-a-days" my dad is in the retail industry he's district manager of Best Buy to be exact. so he knows alot about the sales comparisons on the cube, and when he tells parents what system to get for a young child guess what he points them to. and when someone of a mature nature comes in and wants advice on what they should get guess what he points them too.
my mom: "its a remote" i had to explain to her again what it does " sounds like too much for me" i told my uncle (who is young) he just laughed and said "thats stupid nintendo used to be good but now they should just stop" and you know these people wont look into this any further. these people arent "fanboys" either they dont care about "loyalty" (neither do i). and when i talked to peole at my school about this it was even worse of a response. they would say "thats so gay"
in laughter, even people that owned a cube would say " i dont like this idea much"
or " what? we have to reform so nintendo can TRY to pull in a broader audience?"
and then theres the general responses "you'll look like a crazy person" and then they mock how the controller would be used in laughter,(and this was people who saw the video). and these are seniors and juniors in high school. i got not one person that thought this would be awsome. i even got to the point where i tried to use points i didnt even agree with to try to persuade people, just for the sake of experimentation. and they said "like, every game will be like timecrisis" or "thats like a fucken arcade" so thats a little insight for when you guys say
"most people love it" here look at this for example
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Controller Debate



Some people love it, some people hate it.

Original Opinion Piece

Cyndy Threadgill writes:

When the gaming world got wind of Nintendo’s next-gen system, the Nintendo Revolution, everyone wondered how the big N was going to compete with the Xbox 360 and the PS3. The E3 unveiling of the little black box served to amaze and confuse gamers around the world. Then they come out with pictures of this…thing. Some weird as heck, ungodly looking controller thing that looks all too much like a remote control.



Now I am always open to new and innovative gaming ideas, but come on! What in the world were they thinking? Who needs another remote? I have a hard enough time keeping up with the ones I already have. The last thing I need to do is lose the remote controller or whatever you want to call it, to my console and then have it end up as nothing more than a sleek looking piece of modern art.



But while I’m complaining, let’s take a look at the overall design of this monstrosity, just to make sure that we’re all on the same page. I want fan boys to pay close attention because I am not biased. I own nearly every home console system ever created. Anyone and I do mean ANYONE should be able to see the flagrant flaws in this design.



First off, it’s a remote. Plain and simple. Wireless…good. Remote…bad. I can already see myself losing the thing and all the bright colors and flashing lights in the world aren’t going to help me with that. I sure hope the Nintendo Revolution has a built in page button so I can find my lost remote control. Next, who in their right mind puts the power button next to the directional pad? Pick it up wrong after a snack break or thumb slips off the D-pad and someone is going to be literally crying because they hadn’t saved in three hours. I hope it’s not very sensitive or requires a fingernail to push it all the way down.



An optional analog stick. Hmm. Does no one see how awkward this would be? Look at that short cord. Now just imagine playing a game that requires you to rotate the analog stick like the numerous Mario Party games. Hold your hand up, put your thumb out and try that in midair. Granted that’s not every game, but just think about quick movements. Sure you could just set it down on your lap but you’ll be pulling that annoying remote all over the place while you’re doing it.



I don’t have a problem with this being just a glorified remote. I have a problem with it being poorly designed. The button layout is horrific. You aren’t going to be playing any serious fighting game or much of anything complex with this set up. I can’t even imagine playing anything in the Soul Calibur or Resident Evil series on it.

It’s essentially got four unfathomably awkward placed control buttons (not including start, home and select), a ridiculous “optional” analog stick and it’s a REMOTE! Nintendo needs to go back to the drawing board and come up with a real controller that gamers can actually use intuitively for something other than simplistic games. The NES days are long gone. Gamers don’t mind a bit of complexity in control but they do mind outright…I don’t even think there’s even a term for what this thing is. It seems just that bad to me.

Agree or disagree with this opinion piece? Share your thoughts in this thread!


and thats not all, just type in "rev. controller sucks" or something on google.

now, heres what my friend that actually got to play an imported rev. with the controller had to say.

him(russel): the thing isnt all that great, i dont like it at all, nintendo better do something quickabout having regular controllers.

me: seriously? what was wrong with it?

him(russel): well first off, you know the tracer? its like, a bit too accurate yaknow?, when you're "moving" and you do the slightest wrong thing with your wrist the character will do it, which made me pissed because if my wrist went down a bit and there goes your guy.

but like, you can turn it off and on with the remote.

me: i know, that is pretty convient

Him(russel): no, not so much, because its like, RIGHT next to the D-pad. i swear i turned the game off like 8 times because my thumb accidently hit the off button. and it gets you so pissed because you get far, and then you'd push the off button accidently, and your screwed.

me:wow hahahaha damn anything else?

him(russel): oh! and the b and a button were so far down from from everthing else. i had to throw the controller up and down in my palms to try to get to it. and when i threw the controller up in my palms, thats when you can easily accidently press the off button.

me: what did you play?

him(russel): um, first i played a baseball game, like that advertisement, you do swing after the ball. you do it while pressing B.

me: did you like it?

him(russel): it wasnt... fun, its just like the batting cages at gameworks. baseball games on the old systems were better.

me: and what else did you get to play? did they have any third person games?

him(russel): they had about 3 demonstrations on 1st person games and 1 on a 3rd person game.

me: ooh, and how was the 3rd person? how can you do stuff, like combos? you have to swing the remote right?

him(russel): well they have this extra analog thing thats like attached by cord

me: haha yeah i know all that

him(russel):oh, haha well they have the analog thing right, did i mention that thing is wierd? the cord is too short, but anyway yeah there is two buttons on the front of the analog thing and you gotta do combinations while swinging your sword. its just all......blah, too wierd.

me: jeez

him(russel): yeah, you know whats funny? through out me playing the whole time, i was wishing i had a regular controller haha. it just basically sucked. and the rev. didnt even have that great of graphics. haha just to throw that in. the games are too simplistic.

me: wow some of that stuff i didnt even think about, like the off button thing.

(then somebody over hears our convo)

new guy: hey are you guys talking about that revolution?

me: yeah he actually got to play it.

new guy: seriously? is that controller not the stupidest thing you've ever seen? hahahaha.

him(russel): yeah pretty much, i didnt it would actually be bad at first

and this is a kid that owned a gamecube as well, so you cant necessarily call him a fan boy.


you see, its not change im afraid of im just afraid of suck
 

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xnofearx   Nintendo Revolutions Controller   Nov 22 2005, 11:24 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   Eh. I don't see myself using this thing. I hop...   Nov 23 2005, 01:04 AM
evanbunnell   It looks very promising, but hopefully developers ...   Nov 23 2005, 04:29 AM
ThunderEvermore   I touched on all this ALOT in the Nintendo Revolut...   Nov 23 2005, 09:54 AM
sadolakced acid   ^ all i care about is being able to play jedi k...   Nov 24 2005, 03:45 AM
xnofearx   ^ I feel you, for once we actually feel like being...   Nov 24 2005, 12:34 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   But what about the other game genre's ? What ...   Nov 24 2005, 03:02 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Nov 24 2005, 4:02 PM)Bu...   Nov 27 2005, 09:18 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 27 2005, 9:18 PM)...   Dec 4 2005, 02:04 AM
evanbunnell   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Dec 4 2005, 2:04 AM)Ok....   Dec 4 2005, 02:58 AM
Tribal J_Rome   it does look promising in how it's changing an...   Nov 24 2005, 05:27 PM
artislife90   It looks cool, but I'd hate to have to take up...   Nov 26 2005, 08:45 PM
liquidize   its ugly   Nov 27 2005, 08:22 PM
masu_misairu   just cause it's gonna be new doesn't mean ...   Nov 27 2005, 09:38 PM
anqie   i think it's corny. and i'd feel weird usi...   Nov 27 2005, 09:40 PM
xnofearx   ^ That's what everyone said when the testers s...   Nov 27 2005, 10:41 PM
Rachel is love   I think it looks awesome!   Nov 30 2005, 07:10 PM
Ken   me = def going to be all over it when it comes out...   Nov 30 2005, 08:19 PM
L!ckitySplit   okay, that remote, is the controller? eh, i dont k...   Dec 4 2005, 02:10 AM
L!ckitySplit   i think this is a stupid idea 1. its going to be ...   Dec 4 2005, 07:31 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 4 2005, 7:31 PM)...   Dec 5 2005, 01:10 AM
vash1530   quote from L!ckitySplit,Dec 4 2005, 7:31 PM i ...   Dec 5 2005, 01:45 AM
vash1530   somethings wrong with my browser   Dec 5 2005, 01:49 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 4 2005, 7:31 PM)...   Dec 5 2005, 06:52 PM
vash1530   i just hope they can get some good 3rd party publi...   Dec 5 2005, 12:41 AM
vash1530   i just hope they can get some good 3rd party publi...   Dec 5 2005, 12:46 AM
ThunderEvermore   Dude, no more of the double posting. Anyway... As...   Dec 5 2005, 12:54 PM
sadolakced acid   i rock at light gun games. give me a joystick wit...   Dec 5 2005, 08:55 PM
L!ckitySplit   i wont quote all of you sooo, personally, i thin...   Dec 5 2005, 10:40 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTEpersonally, i think nintendo made themselves ...   Dec 6 2005, 03:39 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 5 2005, 10:40 PM...   Dec 6 2005, 09:54 PM
sadolakced acid   i can whoop you with a rev controler on light gun ...   Dec 5 2005, 10:42 PM
L!ckitySplit   well if the game caters to the light gun all aroun...   Dec 5 2005, 10:55 PM
sadolakced acid   i love time crisis. :-) a light gun if more intu...   Dec 5 2005, 11:46 PM
mipadi   I'd prefer not to use a light gun. I normally ...   Dec 6 2005, 01:10 AM
xnofearx   ^ Who said you have to wave your arm around, you j...   Dec 6 2005, 09:04 AM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(xnofearx @ Dec 6 2005, 10:04 AM)^ Who s...   Dec 6 2005, 06:06 PM
xnofearx   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 6 2005, 6:06 PM)...   Dec 6 2005, 06:38 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 6 2005, 7:06 PM)...   Dec 6 2005, 09:06 PM
sadolakced acid   i assume the revolution controler could have a tra...   Dec 6 2005, 07:06 PM
xnofearx   ^ I was thinking the exact same thing, this topic ...   Dec 6 2005, 08:34 PM
sadolakced acid   well, we certainly know it will be different. i...   Dec 6 2005, 08:36 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTEI'm getting the impression you didn't...   Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM...   Dec 7 2005, 01:30 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Dec 7 2005, 1:30 AM)He ...   Dec 7 2005, 01:42 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   Whoops.   Dec 9 2005, 12:37 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM...   Dec 7 2005, 02:28 AM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2005, 3:28 AM)Sounds ...   Dec 7 2005, 06:01 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 6:01 PM)...   Dec 7 2005, 07:16 PM
vash1530   yea the xbox controller looks like an advanced dc ...   Dec 7 2005, 07:30 AM
xnofearx   Jesus Christ, what have I created....?   Dec 7 2005, 07:30 PM
mipadi   I find it a bit hypocritcal that a common response...   Dec 7 2005, 07:35 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 7 2005, 7:35 PM)I find it ...   Dec 7 2005, 07:46 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2005, 7:46 PM)How so?...   Dec 7 2005, 07:59 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 7 2005, 7:59 PM)How is you...   Dec 7 2005, 10:31 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2005, 10:31 PM)Becaus...   Dec 8 2005, 12:23 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 8 2005, 12:23 AM)I still d...   Dec 8 2005, 10:49 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 8 2005, 10:49 PM)Well, ...   Dec 8 2005, 11:28 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 8 2005, 11:28 PM)I already...   Dec 9 2005, 10:53 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 9 2005, 10:53 AM)Don...   Dec 9 2005, 02:01 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 9 2005, 3:01 PM)This is pa...   Dec 9 2005, 06:38 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 9 2005, 6:38 PM)I...   Dec 10 2005, 02:34 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 10 2005, 3:34 AM)His opini...   Dec 10 2005, 09:36 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 8 2005, 1:23 AM)I still do...   Dec 8 2005, 11:28 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTEYou're already dismissing the controller,...   Dec 7 2005, 09:03 PM
ThunderEvermore   Wow, this turned into a novel. I think the whole ...   Dec 7 2005, 11:20 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTEIf you still insist on saying it would be mor...   Dec 7 2005, 11:46 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 11:46 PM...   Dec 7 2005, 11:56 PM
L!ckitySplit   im actually talking console wise, i never said ...   Dec 8 2005, 12:06 AM
vash1530   i think fps's will play great on the controlle...   Dec 8 2005, 03:07 AM
L!ckitySplit   It ISNT fit for all games!^ it only has 4 damn...   Dec 8 2005, 09:24 AM
sadolakced acid   your fallacy is you assume that everyone else thin...   Dec 8 2005, 09:22 PM
vash1530   THIS SHOULD DEF. BE IN DEBATE!!! btw ...   Dec 9 2005, 12:05 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Dec 9 2005, 1:05 AM)THIS SHO...   Dec 9 2005, 12:07 AM
vash1530   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 9 2005, 12:07 AM)...   Dec 9 2005, 12:40 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   Ok ok, I hear you guys. But ok. Still, nobody has ...   Dec 9 2005, 12:30 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Dec 9 2005, 1:30 AM)Ok ...   Dec 9 2005, 09:17 AM
vash1530   ^i have to say that i totally isagree with ur opin...   Dec 9 2005, 05:26 PM
L!ckitySplit   im gone for a few seconds and already you think i ...   Dec 9 2005, 09:22 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 9 2005, 9:22 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 10:01 AM
sadolakced acid   it's just a controller guys. (try to keep you...   Dec 10 2005, 12:37 AM
vash1530   ^yea wtf! i'm not gonna read all that...   Dec 10 2005, 02:33 AM
L!ckitySplit   i cant tell if you even read all what i had to say...   Dec 10 2005, 01:02 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 10 2005, 1:02 PM...   Dec 10 2005, 02:01 PM
sadolakced acid   nintendo= wants to change the way you play games. ...   Dec 10 2005, 01:19 PM
L!ckitySplit   sometimes the feeling i get from nintendo is that ...   Dec 10 2005, 01:49 PM
pandamonium   its funny how i made a topic JUST on the nintendo ...   Dec 10 2005, 02:00 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTETell me how Narnia was when you get back. lo...   Dec 10 2005, 02:13 PM
Krunk_Muzik   Uhm, plain stupid and ugly. I hate Nintendo. And i...   Dec 10 2005, 02:39 PM
vash1530   ^thank you for that great contribution to this dis...   Dec 10 2005, 04:49 PM
mipadi   Tell me, have you personally used the controller? ...   Dec 10 2005, 09:52 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 10 2005, 10:52 PM)Tell me,...   Dec 10 2005, 09:54 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 10 2005, 9:54 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 10:02 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 10 2005, 11:02 PM)Negative...   Dec 10 2005, 10:15 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 10 2005, 10:54 PM...   Dec 10 2005, 10:34 PM
sadolakced acid   he did assert it as fact and offered the testimona...   Dec 10 2005, 10:03 PM
mipadi   I'm not really sure what you're getting at...   Dec 10 2005, 10:28 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 10 2005, 11:28 PM)There sh...   Dec 10 2005, 11:07 PM
xnofearx   ^ You give me a headache, not because I disagree w...   Dec 10 2005, 10:31 PM
jEllyBeaNs   ooo wow who in the heCk would actually use a freaK...   Dec 11 2005, 02:08 AM
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