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EddieV
post Nov 22 2005, 11:24 AM
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The new Nintendo Revolution's Controller looks really interesting. Nintendo said they want to change the way we play video games. I think out of the three system, Nintendo to me looks the most promising. The X-Box 360 only has a few new features and slightly better graphics. But basically everything is the same. Here's a link to the Nintendo Revolution's new controller.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782
 
 
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AngryBaby
post Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM
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I'm getting the impression you didn't even see the mockup video of the revolution controller in use. How about you watch that first, then you come back and continue this arguement.


i saw it about a week ago on IGN. i never knew what the rev's controller looked like, so i typed it in on google. and the ign site came up. i saw the controllers and i thought "nooooo that cant be it, thats gotta be like the remote to a dvd system or something" then i saw the video, and i was like ":mellow: ooookay..." have fun with that. look at the video, and listen to the sounds that the "games" are making as the player swing their remotes like fools. to me this implies that the games will be arcade like. which turned me off. to me this is a gimmick, more than trying to be "revolutional" i mean c'mon without this new controller, what else does the nintendo have to offer that the others dont? the others have better games and more fans. which pits revolution in 3rd again. so what did they do? the brilliant idea of the remote. and if it is not a gimmick, why did they have a WHOLE commercial centered around the controller? BEFORE advertising even a clip or photo of a graphics shot at the least. and actually, it seems as though to me that the revs controller makes things more complicated, throwing your arms about, and hopping around just to play a damn game, ehhhh. geared towards kids much?
please someone, please explain to me how, in detail, you would play a game like prince of persia with this controller. please.

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As opposed to throwing a boomerang or remarking how much your controller looks like the Dreamcast controller? You can find a reason to hate any controller.


whats my controller? are you talking about xbox? because, i dont even own an xbox 1.

but the 360 doesnt look much like the dreamcast controller.

erm close to same color and thats about it. ermm.gif
 
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post Dec 7 2005, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM)
i saw it about a week ago on IGN. i never knew what the rev's controller looked like, so i typed it in on google. and the ign site came up. i saw the controllers and i thought "nooooo that cant be it, thats gotta be like the remote to a dvd system or something" then i saw the video, and i was like ":mellow: ooookay..." have fun with that. look at the video, and listen to the sounds that the "games" are making as the player swing their remotes like fools. to me this implies that the games will be arcade like. which turned me off. to me this is a gimmick, more than trying to be "revolutional" i mean c'mon without this new controller, what else does the nintendo have to offer that the others dont? the others have better games and more fans. which pits revolution in 3rd again. so what did they do? the brilliant idea of the remote. and if it is not a gimmick, why did they have a WHOLE commercial centered around the controller? BEFORE advertising even a clip or photo of a graphics shot at the least. and actually, it seems as though to me that the revs controller makes things more complicated, throwing your arms about, and hopping around just to play a damn game, ehhhh. geared towards kids much?
please someone, please explain to me how, in detail, you would play a game like prince of persia with this controller. please.


Sounds like sour grapes and fanboyism to me. Well, if you're not into the immersiveness, and if you're really concerned that you'll look like a "retard," then obviously the revolution is not for you. I can't imagine why someone who calls themself a gamer would think this way, but to each his own.



I've never played any of the newer Prince of Persia games, but from what I saw of Sands of Time, I'm sure it's playable with the analog stick dongle.

The only game I can't see it being played with are fighters, and ironically, Super Smash Bros.

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whats my controller? are you talking about xbox? because, i dont even own an xbox 1.

but the 360 doesnt look much like the dreamcast controller.

erm close to same color and thats about it.  ermm.gif
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Very good, you linked to an image from Sockmaster's Controller Family tree. But did you take a look at it? The Xbox line can clearly trace its roots to the DC controller.

Look at the button/stick locations, the color scheme, the expansion slots. It's clear that the 360 was heavily influenced by the DC. Hell, take a look at this:

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145154&did=1

Although that kinda diverges from the point about controllers, you get the point.
 
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post Dec 7 2005, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2005, 3:28 AM)
Sounds like sour grapes and fanboyism to me.
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145154&did=1
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fanboyism? lol and what system am i being a fanboy to? i dont even want an xbox 1.5. i never even said anything good about it. so what are you talking about? your the one making constant threads dissing sony buddy wink.gif i WAS hoping nintendo would come back and woop ass, but then they do this, they just had to do something that would give them controversy. and it is, indeed giving them controversy.


and as for the dc controller and the 360 one. first off they are two TOTALLY different shapes. thats should already shut down that theory, look at it as from artist stand point. wow the analog and the D-pad are in the same spot, wow. but how many things can i list that are different? well the start and select buttons are in a totally different spot, the secondary triggers are in a totally different spot also sooooooo. its like saying pokemon and full metal alchaemist look the same just cause they are animes. and besides, even if it did look like the dc controller thats not a reason to hate it, because at least ps3 and 360 controller dont change almost everything.

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I've never played any of the newer Prince of Persia games, but from what I saw of Sands of Time, I'm sure it's playable with the analog stick dongle.

The only game I can't see it being played with are fighters, and ironically, Super
Smash Bros.


naw, for prince it would be difficult. its not about the analog, its about the combinations, fighting combos and acrobatic moves, like running up the walls, and controlling the sands. ESPECIALLY with the newer versions. it just cant be done or at least done well.
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Well, if you're not into the immersiveness, and if you're really concerned that you'll look like a "retard," then obviously the revolution is not for you. I can't imagine why someone who calls themself a gamer would think this way, but to each his own.

its not all about that man, thats just another peice as to why its bad. It would effect my gameplay for an ultimately unecessary cause,and it would make my accuracy worse, my control worse, and limit me from things i wanna do. another huge huge flaw that was pointed out to me from my friends and even my female friends is "look how far the b and o (is it o?) buttons are from where your hand is!" thats a huge flaw. and will ruin ALOT, and slow your movements down also. wow i didnt even notice that.
 
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post Dec 7 2005, 07:16 PM
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fanboyism? lol and what system am i being a fanboy to? i dont even want an xbox 1.5. i never even said anything good about it. so what are you talking about? your the one making constant threads dissing sony buddy  wink.gif i WAS hoping nintendo would come back and woop ass, but then they do this, they just had to do something that would give them controversy. and it is, indeed giving them controversy.


You're already dismissing the controller, implying that it will be hated by a large percentage even though the vast majority of people who have actually played it absolutely love it. This is not to say you can't have a different opinion. However, the reasons you have used to support this opinion are extremely superficial. Seriously, who the hell cares what they look like when playing videogames? And the video was just something to emphasize how different the controller was, and how it could attract so many people. In fact, I don't see how playing with this controller would make you look retarded anyway. If you're so against the idea of going through the motion of swinging a sword or shooting a gun, why are you playing a sword game or shooter in the first place? Do you say "Hahaha, Mitsurugi looks like a retard!" when playing Soul Calibur? The character would only move like a retard if the person holding the controller moved in an akward fashion. If one has problems swinging a sword correctly, it's not the controller's fault.

What's your point about me making threads that point out what Sony is doing wrong? Maybe because Sony IS doing something wrong (unless you actually like rootkits and a corporation perverting the artform of graffiti and the Kutaragi talking arrogantly). Maybe if the validity of what Sony is doing is debatable, you'd have a point, but the allow a customer's system to be exploited and vandalizing public property is unnacceptable from a company. I'm not the only one that believes this either, nor am I the one making threads on these matters. If you're not concerned, you really should read up on it.

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and as for the dc controller and the 360 one. first off they are two TOTALLY different shapes. thats should already shut down that theory, look at it as from artist stand point. wow the analog  and the D-pad are in the same spot, wow. but how many things can i list that are different? well the start and select buttons are in a totally different spot, the secondary triggers are in a totally different spot also sooooooo. its like saying pokemon and full metal alchaemist look the same just cause they are animes. and besides, even if it did look like the dc controller thats not a reason to hate it, because at least ps3  and 360 controller dont change almost everything.


Shape? Give me a break. That's like saying the SNES controller didn't influence the DualShock because it doesn't have handles. The handles are angled on the Xbox controller. If you subtract the extra buttons the Xbox 360 has (it was made for console FPSes while the DC's controller was more geared towards fighters), they look very similar. In fact, I believe Microsoft even admitted that the original Xbox controller was based on the DC's controller.

I don't think I said I hate the 360 controller. I feel quite the opposite, it looks like it's a change for the better from the original Xbox controller, especially the relocation of the white and black buttons to triggers.

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naw, for prince it would be difficult. its not about the analog, its about the combinations, fighting combos and acrobatic moves, like running up the walls, and controlling the sands. ESPECIALLY with the newer versions. it just cant be done or at least done well.
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Again, I admit that I have no experience playing the new Prince of Persia games, so it would be imprudent for me to argue here. If indeed it requires more than what the Rev controller can provide, then the gamer can always revert back to the standard controller shell.

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its not all about that man, thats just another peice as to why its bad. It would effect my gameplay for an ultimately unecessary cause,and it would make my accuracy worse, my control worse, and limit me from things i wanna do. another huge huge flaw that was pointed out to me from my friends and even my female friends is "look how far the b and o (is it o?) buttons are from where your hand is!" thats a huge flaw. and will ruin ALOT, and slow your movements down also. wow i didnt even notice that.


I don't know, to me it seems like it'll help gameplay out alot. Ever since I've been playing videogames, I've thought "if only it felt like I was more in the game." The controller is pretty small (I believe about the same size as a NES controller). If anything, it seems like it would enhance gameply because corresponding movements are more natural than button combinations.
 

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xnofearx   Nintendo Revolutions Controller   Nov 22 2005, 11:24 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   Eh. I don't see myself using this thing. I hop...   Nov 23 2005, 01:04 AM
evanbunnell   It looks very promising, but hopefully developers ...   Nov 23 2005, 04:29 AM
ThunderEvermore   I touched on all this ALOT in the Nintendo Revolut...   Nov 23 2005, 09:54 AM
sadolakced acid   ^ all i care about is being able to play jedi k...   Nov 24 2005, 03:45 AM
xnofearx   ^ I feel you, for once we actually feel like being...   Nov 24 2005, 12:34 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   But what about the other game genre's ? What ...   Nov 24 2005, 03:02 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Nov 24 2005, 4:02 PM)Bu...   Nov 27 2005, 09:18 PM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 27 2005, 9:18 PM)...   Dec 4 2005, 02:04 AM
evanbunnell   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Dec 4 2005, 2:04 AM)Ok....   Dec 4 2005, 02:58 AM
Tribal J_Rome   it does look promising in how it's changing an...   Nov 24 2005, 05:27 PM
artislife90   It looks cool, but I'd hate to have to take up...   Nov 26 2005, 08:45 PM
liquidize   its ugly   Nov 27 2005, 08:22 PM
masu_misairu   just cause it's gonna be new doesn't mean ...   Nov 27 2005, 09:38 PM
anqie   i think it's corny. and i'd feel weird usi...   Nov 27 2005, 09:40 PM
xnofearx   ^ That's what everyone said when the testers s...   Nov 27 2005, 10:41 PM
Rachel is love   I think it looks awesome!   Nov 30 2005, 07:10 PM
Ken   me = def going to be all over it when it comes out...   Nov 30 2005, 08:19 PM
L!ckitySplit   okay, that remote, is the controller? eh, i dont k...   Dec 4 2005, 02:10 AM
L!ckitySplit   i think this is a stupid idea 1. its going to be ...   Dec 4 2005, 07:31 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 4 2005, 7:31 PM)...   Dec 5 2005, 01:10 AM
vash1530   quote from L!ckitySplit,Dec 4 2005, 7:31 PM i ...   Dec 5 2005, 01:45 AM
vash1530   somethings wrong with my browser   Dec 5 2005, 01:49 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 4 2005, 7:31 PM)...   Dec 5 2005, 06:52 PM
vash1530   i just hope they can get some good 3rd party publi...   Dec 5 2005, 12:41 AM
vash1530   i just hope they can get some good 3rd party publi...   Dec 5 2005, 12:46 AM
ThunderEvermore   Dude, no more of the double posting. Anyway... As...   Dec 5 2005, 12:54 PM
sadolakced acid   i rock at light gun games. give me a joystick wit...   Dec 5 2005, 08:55 PM
L!ckitySplit   i wont quote all of you sooo, personally, i thin...   Dec 5 2005, 10:40 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTEpersonally, i think nintendo made themselves ...   Dec 6 2005, 03:39 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 5 2005, 10:40 PM...   Dec 6 2005, 09:54 PM
sadolakced acid   i can whoop you with a rev controler on light gun ...   Dec 5 2005, 10:42 PM
L!ckitySplit   well if the game caters to the light gun all aroun...   Dec 5 2005, 10:55 PM
sadolakced acid   i love time crisis. :-) a light gun if more intu...   Dec 5 2005, 11:46 PM
mipadi   I'd prefer not to use a light gun. I normally ...   Dec 6 2005, 01:10 AM
xnofearx   ^ Who said you have to wave your arm around, you j...   Dec 6 2005, 09:04 AM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(xnofearx @ Dec 6 2005, 10:04 AM)^ Who s...   Dec 6 2005, 06:06 PM
xnofearx   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 6 2005, 6:06 PM)...   Dec 6 2005, 06:38 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 6 2005, 7:06 PM)...   Dec 6 2005, 09:06 PM
sadolakced acid   i assume the revolution controler could have a tra...   Dec 6 2005, 07:06 PM
xnofearx   ^ I was thinking the exact same thing, this topic ...   Dec 6 2005, 08:34 PM
sadolakced acid   well, we certainly know it will be different. i...   Dec 6 2005, 08:36 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTEI'm getting the impression you didn't...   Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM...   Dec 7 2005, 01:30 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Dec 7 2005, 1:30 AM)He ...   Dec 7 2005, 01:42 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   Whoops.   Dec 9 2005, 12:37 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 12:26 AM...   Dec 7 2005, 02:28 AM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2005, 3:28 AM)Sounds ...   Dec 7 2005, 06:01 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 6:01 PM)...   Dec 7 2005, 07:16 PM
vash1530   yea the xbox controller looks like an advanced dc ...   Dec 7 2005, 07:30 AM
xnofearx   Jesus Christ, what have I created....?   Dec 7 2005, 07:30 PM
mipadi   I find it a bit hypocritcal that a common response...   Dec 7 2005, 07:35 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 7 2005, 7:35 PM)I find it ...   Dec 7 2005, 07:46 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2005, 7:46 PM)How so?...   Dec 7 2005, 07:59 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 7 2005, 7:59 PM)How is you...   Dec 7 2005, 10:31 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2005, 10:31 PM)Becaus...   Dec 8 2005, 12:23 AM
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mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 8 2005, 10:49 PM)Well, ...   Dec 8 2005, 11:28 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 8 2005, 11:28 PM)I already...   Dec 9 2005, 10:53 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 9 2005, 10:53 AM)Don...   Dec 9 2005, 02:01 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 9 2005, 3:01 PM)This is pa...   Dec 9 2005, 06:38 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 9 2005, 6:38 PM)I...   Dec 10 2005, 02:34 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 10 2005, 3:34 AM)His opini...   Dec 10 2005, 09:36 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 8 2005, 1:23 AM)I still do...   Dec 8 2005, 11:28 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTEYou're already dismissing the controller,...   Dec 7 2005, 09:03 PM
ThunderEvermore   Wow, this turned into a novel. I think the whole ...   Dec 7 2005, 11:20 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTEIf you still insist on saying it would be mor...   Dec 7 2005, 11:46 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 7 2005, 11:46 PM...   Dec 7 2005, 11:56 PM
L!ckitySplit   im actually talking console wise, i never said ...   Dec 8 2005, 12:06 AM
vash1530   i think fps's will play great on the controlle...   Dec 8 2005, 03:07 AM
L!ckitySplit   It ISNT fit for all games!^ it only has 4 damn...   Dec 8 2005, 09:24 AM
sadolakced acid   your fallacy is you assume that everyone else thin...   Dec 8 2005, 09:22 PM
vash1530   THIS SHOULD DEF. BE IN DEBATE!!! btw ...   Dec 9 2005, 12:05 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Dec 9 2005, 1:05 AM)THIS SHO...   Dec 9 2005, 12:07 AM
vash1530   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 9 2005, 12:07 AM)...   Dec 9 2005, 12:40 AM
uLoVeMikeRoch   Ok ok, I hear you guys. But ok. Still, nobody has ...   Dec 9 2005, 12:30 AM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Dec 9 2005, 1:30 AM)Ok ...   Dec 9 2005, 09:17 AM
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kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 9 2005, 9:22 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 10:01 AM
sadolakced acid   it's just a controller guys. (try to keep you...   Dec 10 2005, 12:37 AM
vash1530   ^yea wtf! i'm not gonna read all that...   Dec 10 2005, 02:33 AM
L!ckitySplit   i cant tell if you even read all what i had to say...   Dec 10 2005, 01:02 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Dec 10 2005, 1:02 PM...   Dec 10 2005, 02:01 PM
sadolakced acid   nintendo= wants to change the way you play games. ...   Dec 10 2005, 01:19 PM
L!ckitySplit   sometimes the feeling i get from nintendo is that ...   Dec 10 2005, 01:49 PM
pandamonium   its funny how i made a topic JUST on the nintendo ...   Dec 10 2005, 02:00 PM
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Krunk_Muzik   Uhm, plain stupid and ugly. I hate Nintendo. And i...   Dec 10 2005, 02:39 PM
vash1530   ^thank you for that great contribution to this dis...   Dec 10 2005, 04:49 PM
mipadi   Tell me, have you personally used the controller? ...   Dec 10 2005, 09:52 PM
ThunderEvermore   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 10 2005, 10:52 PM)Tell me,...   Dec 10 2005, 09:54 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 10 2005, 9:54 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 10:02 PM
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L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Dec 10 2005, 10:54 PM...   Dec 10 2005, 10:34 PM
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mipadi   I'm not really sure what you're getting at...   Dec 10 2005, 10:28 PM
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xnofearx   ^ You give me a headache, not because I disagree w...   Dec 10 2005, 10:31 PM
jEllyBeaNs   ooo wow who in the heCk would actually use a freaK...   Dec 11 2005, 02:08 AM
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