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new hiring process, pros and cons
*incoherent*
post Dec 6 2005, 10:43 PM
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so, i was talking with someone about this about 2 minutes ago and wanted to know what everyone though of how it went being the first time it was implimented.

i didnt want to put this just randomly in another thread, i wanted it to be seen.

so, pros and cons.

pros
-i liked the idea of nominations.

cons
-nominations seemed like endorsements which we did away with due to the fact that only people were picking their friends. i did talk to many mods, and noted it for myself too, that mods werent nominating just friends. i was nominated by 3 people i didnt even talk to.

-not everyone seems to get their chance. just because they dont stand out, doesnt mean they shouldnt be given a shot. sure, there was the discussion thread, but how much of that was taken in when nominations were made?
 
 
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*mzkandi*
post Dec 7 2005, 06:30 PM
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I dont give a flying pigs which way its done as long and community and mod input is apart of the process! ( wink.gif )

I remember when the modding process was being voted on (this whole nomination thing) I voted nay with my reasoning being:
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I'm in favor of a somewhat more traditonal way. As far as all qualifed members applying (via submission of application). Then have a community thread so the community can have a say in who they should be a mod (input) and well as one backstage for mods to voice their opinion. The feedback from both sides would be taken in consideration for by the admins and head staff on who they think should be hired. It opens it up for more variety of people to apply so no one is overlooked, at least, thats what I think.


However, after trying out the nominations I dont think its bad either. I mean some of you are saying people may be overlooked but just because you overlook someone doesnt mean another mod will. For example, someone may nominate someone that another mod may think is not all that qualfied but are still both looked at equally. I can't say much on the community part but our backstage dicussions on each nominee were very in-depth. And if the nominees that arent hired, we can still keep and eye out on their progress for another hiring.

QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 6 2005, 11:58 PM)
i personally would never have applied for xanga staff. i wanted people staff. but i was nominated for xanga staff only.
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Hrmm....if you were unhappy with your nomination and knew deep down you really didnt want an Xanga position but People you shouldnt have accepted your nomination. That goes for anyone else with if this nomination thing continues.

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i also think that datru katalyst was modded over friendship and wasnt looked at the same way as the other mods were

I really do respect that that is your opinion but have you ever thought that maybe he just as qualfied as applicants? And even if you dont, I dont think we should call out new hirees...we are dicussing the nomination process, not individuals who had no say in whether or not they got hired. If you think that is the case then I think it would best to take it up with all those involved in the final hiring dicussion privitely.

Oh and one more thing I would like to add. If we are to continue this nomination process I think we should make it mandatory that all staff p/m those that they nominated that way they are informed of their nomination.

And yeah, I see the valid arguments for both sides.
 

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incoherent   new hiring process   Dec 6 2005, 10:43 PM
gigiopolis   This is pretty long but take the time to read this...   Dec 6 2005, 10:55 PM
sadolakced acid   is a not popular member likely to be chosen as a m...   Dec 6 2005, 11:02 PM
gigiopolis   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 8:02 PM)i...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
incoherent   gigi, i was honestly thinking the same thing, i ju...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
Fabio.   Pros + Nominations = good. I like how some people...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ however, (certain) mods are who ultimately choo...   Dec 6 2005, 11:10 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 10:10 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 12:06 AM
gigiopolis   That's what I hate about debating with you, Ju...   Dec 6 2005, 11:15 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ however, a newbie who hasn't posted a lot i...   Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM)...   Dec 6 2005, 11:59 PM
disco infiltrator   I visit the Design forums a lot and I don't th...   Dec 6 2005, 11:58 PM
insomniac   we all know that i wasnt particularly happy with t...   Dec 6 2005, 11:58 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(insomniac)member discussion: the community w...   Dec 7 2005, 12:03 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 7 2005, 12:03 A...   Dec 7 2005, 12:06 AM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 7 2005, 12:06 AM)i comp...   Dec 7 2005, 12:13 AM
disco infiltrator   We used the community input, but they basically sa...   Dec 7 2005, 12:13 AM
disco infiltrator   It overlooks those that deserve to be overlooked. ...   Dec 7 2005, 12:19 AM
KissMe2408   ^yah i agree mods should stand out to be good lead...   Dec 7 2005, 12:24 AM
gigiopolis   Sammi, I think my point is extremely valid. I real...   Dec 7 2005, 01:10 AM
incoherent   thats what i was talking to meli about. this syste...   Dec 7 2005, 01:16 PM
Heathasm   pros: the nominations were great because people th...   Dec 7 2005, 01:52 PM
sadolakced acid   but there is more than one mod. so if someone sta...   Dec 7 2005, 04:28 PM
disco infiltrator   Who do you guys think was overlooked?... I mean.....   Dec 7 2005, 04:41 PM
mzkandi   I dont give a flying pigs which way its done as lo...   Dec 7 2005, 06:30 PM
insomniac   QUOTEOh and one more thing I would like to add. If...   Dec 7 2005, 07:09 PM
incoherent   alright, so here's what i was thinking. maybe...   Dec 7 2005, 07:34 PM
mzkandi   ^ Hold both??...nah, I dont think so. What would ...   Dec 7 2005, 07:41 PM
incoherent   well, in toyas case...she would never apply becaus...   Dec 7 2005, 08:02 PM
KissMe2408   ^x2 I agree, if you have the application process, ...   Dec 7 2005, 08:07 PM
sadolakced acid   if it had been applications i certainly would not ...   Dec 7 2005, 08:20 PM
Heathasm   QUOTEI really do respect that that is your opinion...   Dec 7 2005, 08:23 PM
disco infiltrator   You guys are missing the point of the nominations ...   Dec 8 2005, 12:07 AM
Libertie   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 7 2005, 11:07 P...   Dec 8 2005, 12:48 AM
insomniac   i dont see why you have to stand out. for a design...   Dec 8 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 7 2005, 11:18 PM)i dont...   Dec 8 2005, 01:07 AM
gigiopolis   ^ Not a lot of people go in design forums, it...   Dec 8 2005, 01:12 AM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Dec 8 2005, 1:12 AM)Howeve...   Dec 8 2005, 01:39 AM
sadolakced acid   then why not just have people submit thier names? ...   Dec 8 2005, 01:24 AM
sadolakced acid   but what benefit does making people write "on...   Dec 8 2005, 01:51 AM
disco infiltrator   I really disliked applications. Either people thou...   Dec 8 2005, 08:46 PM
insomniac   QUOTEAnd Michelle, I agree with Justin. Design peo...   Dec 9 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid   do we all remember the applications: SAMPLE APPLI...   Dec 9 2005, 06:15 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 9 2005, 6:15 PM)d...   Dec 9 2005, 06:27 PM
mona lisa   For Design-related Staff, it's obvious that yo...   Dec 9 2005, 06:55 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 9 2005, 6:55 PM)For Des...   Dec 9 2005, 07:08 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 9 2005, 7:08 PM)i wasnt...   Dec 9 2005, 09:08 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 9 2005, 9:08 PM)Again, ...   Dec 9 2005, 09:12 PM
mzkandi   The way I see it is the application process doesnt...   Dec 9 2005, 10:18 PM
incoherent   alright...so if everyone is against writing out a ...   Dec 9 2005, 10:37 PM
disco infiltrator   Why do people have to nominate themselves? Everyo...   Dec 9 2005, 11:23 PM
mzkandi   ^But didnt even you say some qualifed member may b...   Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid   i mean in addition to nominations the way they wer...   Dec 10 2005, 12:34 AM
mzkandi   Then whats the point in nominating at all. I think...   Dec 10 2005, 12:38 AM
sadolakced acid   well, i think application should be: i wish to be...   Dec 10 2005, 01:13 AM
incoherent   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 12:13 AM...   Dec 10 2005, 01:18 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 AM)...   Dec 10 2005, 12:09 PM
mzkandi   Self nominating....hmmm.. See I thought this was a...   Dec 10 2005, 01:17 AM
sadolakced acid   well, i think people should be able to request tha...   Dec 10 2005, 01:23 AM
mzkandi   So, have the qualifed and the not so qualifed nomi...   Dec 10 2005, 01:26 AM
mzkandi   If thats the case, I support the fact that if you ...   Dec 10 2005, 12:13 PM
not_your_average   I agree with Sammi more. I didn't like apps at...   Dec 10 2005, 12:30 PM
sadolakced acid   keep nominations like now, except add a thread whe...   Dec 10 2005, 01:13 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 01:15 PM
disco infiltrator   I don't see why you need to do that. The way w...   Dec 10 2005, 01:26 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 10 2005, 1:26 P...   Dec 10 2005, 01:28 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ but if they're nominated they might change ...   Dec 10 2005, 02:29 PM
insomniac   i dont think they'd change their minds. maybe...   Dec 10 2005, 03:28 PM
RupertGrintluvr15   Pros: New staff members Cons: Take into considera...   Dec 27 2005, 07:29 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(RupertGrintluvr15 @ Dec 27 2005, 7:29 P...   Dec 30 2005, 02:31 PM
Guest   that pro is silly. ANY new hiring process would gi...   Dec 28 2005, 07:06 AM
Guest   so, we shouldnt review things after, to make sure ...   Dec 30 2005, 04:41 PM
disco infiltrator   I do believe there were some incidents in which ot...   Jan 1 2006, 02:27 PM


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