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new hiring process, pros and cons
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post Dec 6 2005, 10:43 PM
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so, i was talking with someone about this about 2 minutes ago and wanted to know what everyone though of how it went being the first time it was implimented.

i didnt want to put this just randomly in another thread, i wanted it to be seen.

so, pros and cons.

pros
-i liked the idea of nominations.

cons
-nominations seemed like endorsements which we did away with due to the fact that only people were picking their friends. i did talk to many mods, and noted it for myself too, that mods werent nominating just friends. i was nominated by 3 people i didnt even talk to.

-not everyone seems to get their chance. just because they dont stand out, doesnt mean they shouldnt be given a shot. sure, there was the discussion thread, but how much of that was taken in when nominations were made?
 
 
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sadolakced acid
post Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM
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^ however, a newbie who hasn't posted a lot isn't likely to meet the requirements, are they?

although, yes, i do agree that generally, if you know someone, like with inside jokes and convos and all, then that can't be emulated by simply reading back posts, but reading back posts can help give a general idea of a person.

i'm sure mods wouldn't be like... they're not my friend, so although their posts seem quite intelligent, i don't know them personally and thus will not nominate them.
 
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post Dec 6 2005, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM)
i'm sure mods wouldn't be like... they're not my friend, so although their posts seem quite intelligent, i don't know them personally and thus will not nominate them.
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Well, i know this might sound weird, but I didn't really know Michael (Mipadi) too well, I just knew that EVERYONE was talking about him and talking about him joining the staff team. I think I was one of the only mods that didn't nominate him. I recognized his avatar quite well, but for some reason it didn't click for him to be a mod. Then after seeing all this buzz about him, I went to read his posts to learn more about him in general. And I thought he was a really intellegent guy, but it does take more the intelligence to become a good staff member. I just didn't see him around too often. That's one of the problems I see with this system, Sometimes the really good people go unnoticed to some mods (for example the whole michael thing to me). He posts more in the debate and technology sections, where I don't go as often as other parts of CB.
lol well my point is:

Pros- i very much like the discussion thread in the lounge. I thought it was helpful for both the staff and the members. Plus the members got to say more on who they think is qualified to become a staff member

Cons- People can go unnoticed for a staff position. (I'll use the example of Michael again here. Oh, and even though he was still choosen for being a mod, and had a bunch of nominations, it still can happen, you know. It happened to me. Also, i'm sure there were some people that went unnoticed, especially in the design staff/xanga/myspace area. When I had to list nominees i think i spent an hour looking for people who were qualified and had good attitudes. I think half of them didn't even accept the nomination or didn't even know they were. I'm bound to have missed a bunch, It's hard weeding through people sometimes, especially in the design staff)
-there are no applications. I think it is important that the members write down why they want to be part of the staff, how they would contribute, etc. Gigi had a good way of putting it.

I'm sure there are more pro's and con's . Those are just the ones off the top of my head
 

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incoherent   new hiring process   Dec 6 2005, 10:43 PM
gigiopolis   This is pretty long but take the time to read this...   Dec 6 2005, 10:55 PM
sadolakced acid   is a not popular member likely to be chosen as a m...   Dec 6 2005, 11:02 PM
gigiopolis   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 8:02 PM)i...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
incoherent   gigi, i was honestly thinking the same thing, i ju...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
Fabio.   Pros + Nominations = good. I like how some people...   Dec 6 2005, 11:04 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ however, (certain) mods are who ultimately choo...   Dec 6 2005, 11:10 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 10:10 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 12:06 AM
gigiopolis   That's what I hate about debating with you, Ju...   Dec 6 2005, 11:15 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ however, a newbie who hasn't posted a lot i...   Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 11:18 PM)...   Dec 6 2005, 11:59 PM
disco infiltrator   I visit the Design forums a lot and I don't th...   Dec 6 2005, 11:58 PM
insomniac   we all know that i wasnt particularly happy with t...   Dec 6 2005, 11:58 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(insomniac)member discussion: the community w...   Dec 7 2005, 12:03 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 7 2005, 12:03 A...   Dec 7 2005, 12:06 AM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 7 2005, 12:06 AM)i comp...   Dec 7 2005, 12:13 AM
disco infiltrator   We used the community input, but they basically sa...   Dec 7 2005, 12:13 AM
disco infiltrator   It overlooks those that deserve to be overlooked. ...   Dec 7 2005, 12:19 AM
KissMe2408   ^yah i agree mods should stand out to be good lead...   Dec 7 2005, 12:24 AM
gigiopolis   Sammi, I think my point is extremely valid. I real...   Dec 7 2005, 01:10 AM
incoherent   thats what i was talking to meli about. this syste...   Dec 7 2005, 01:16 PM
Heathasm   pros: the nominations were great because people th...   Dec 7 2005, 01:52 PM
sadolakced acid   but there is more than one mod. so if someone sta...   Dec 7 2005, 04:28 PM
disco infiltrator   Who do you guys think was overlooked?... I mean.....   Dec 7 2005, 04:41 PM
mzkandi   I dont give a flying pigs which way its done as lo...   Dec 7 2005, 06:30 PM
insomniac   QUOTEOh and one more thing I would like to add. If...   Dec 7 2005, 07:09 PM
incoherent   alright, so here's what i was thinking. maybe...   Dec 7 2005, 07:34 PM
mzkandi   ^ Hold both??...nah, I dont think so. What would ...   Dec 7 2005, 07:41 PM
incoherent   well, in toyas case...she would never apply becaus...   Dec 7 2005, 08:02 PM
KissMe2408   ^x2 I agree, if you have the application process, ...   Dec 7 2005, 08:07 PM
sadolakced acid   if it had been applications i certainly would not ...   Dec 7 2005, 08:20 PM
Heathasm   QUOTEI really do respect that that is your opinion...   Dec 7 2005, 08:23 PM
disco infiltrator   You guys are missing the point of the nominations ...   Dec 8 2005, 12:07 AM
Libertie   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 7 2005, 11:07 P...   Dec 8 2005, 12:48 AM
insomniac   i dont see why you have to stand out. for a design...   Dec 8 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 7 2005, 11:18 PM)i dont...   Dec 8 2005, 01:07 AM
gigiopolis   ^ Not a lot of people go in design forums, it...   Dec 8 2005, 01:12 AM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Dec 8 2005, 1:12 AM)Howeve...   Dec 8 2005, 01:39 AM
sadolakced acid   then why not just have people submit thier names? ...   Dec 8 2005, 01:24 AM
sadolakced acid   but what benefit does making people write "on...   Dec 8 2005, 01:51 AM
disco infiltrator   I really disliked applications. Either people thou...   Dec 8 2005, 08:46 PM
insomniac   QUOTEAnd Michelle, I agree with Justin. Design peo...   Dec 9 2005, 12:18 AM
sadolakced acid   do we all remember the applications: SAMPLE APPLI...   Dec 9 2005, 06:15 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 9 2005, 6:15 PM)d...   Dec 9 2005, 06:27 PM
mona lisa   For Design-related Staff, it's obvious that yo...   Dec 9 2005, 06:55 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 9 2005, 6:55 PM)For Des...   Dec 9 2005, 07:08 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 9 2005, 7:08 PM)i wasnt...   Dec 9 2005, 09:08 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Dec 9 2005, 9:08 PM)Again, ...   Dec 9 2005, 09:12 PM
mzkandi   The way I see it is the application process doesnt...   Dec 9 2005, 10:18 PM
incoherent   alright...so if everyone is against writing out a ...   Dec 9 2005, 10:37 PM
disco infiltrator   Why do people have to nominate themselves? Everyo...   Dec 9 2005, 11:23 PM
mzkandi   ^But didnt even you say some qualifed member may b...   Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM
sadolakced acid   i mean in addition to nominations the way they wer...   Dec 10 2005, 12:34 AM
mzkandi   Then whats the point in nominating at all. I think...   Dec 10 2005, 12:38 AM
sadolakced acid   well, i think application should be: i wish to be...   Dec 10 2005, 01:13 AM
incoherent   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 12:13 AM...   Dec 10 2005, 01:18 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 AM)...   Dec 10 2005, 12:09 PM
mzkandi   Self nominating....hmmm.. See I thought this was a...   Dec 10 2005, 01:17 AM
sadolakced acid   well, i think people should be able to request tha...   Dec 10 2005, 01:23 AM
mzkandi   So, have the qualifed and the not so qualifed nomi...   Dec 10 2005, 01:26 AM
mzkandi   If thats the case, I support the fact that if you ...   Dec 10 2005, 12:13 PM
not_your_average   I agree with Sammi more. I didn't like apps at...   Dec 10 2005, 12:30 PM
sadolakced acid   keep nominations like now, except add a thread whe...   Dec 10 2005, 01:13 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 PM)...   Dec 10 2005, 01:15 PM
disco infiltrator   I don't see why you need to do that. The way w...   Dec 10 2005, 01:26 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 10 2005, 1:26 P...   Dec 10 2005, 01:28 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ but if they're nominated they might change ...   Dec 10 2005, 02:29 PM
insomniac   i dont think they'd change their minds. maybe...   Dec 10 2005, 03:28 PM
RupertGrintluvr15   Pros: New staff members Cons: Take into considera...   Dec 27 2005, 07:29 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(RupertGrintluvr15 @ Dec 27 2005, 7:29 P...   Dec 30 2005, 02:31 PM
Guest   that pro is silly. ANY new hiring process would gi...   Dec 28 2005, 07:06 AM
Guest   so, we shouldnt review things after, to make sure ...   Dec 30 2005, 04:41 PM
disco infiltrator   I do believe there were some incidents in which ot...   Jan 1 2006, 02:27 PM


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