What do u think:, is the bible all bullsh!t? Options

[add1cted2f1re]

Ok, we read this story called Gilgamesh if you haven't read it, google it. But basically its about this guy who wants to be immortal, and his dad tells him that one of the gods told him that a giant flood was coming to wipe out humanity.
(sound familiar?)
well... guess what he did? yep, he made a boat, filled it with his family and animals. then, when they grounded, he set out a bird to find land. blah blah blah, he repopulates the earth.

ok... now tell me that doesnt sound familiar.

I think the bible is full of crap. Whoever wrote it (probably a group of ppl) just got ideas from old stories. and dont say that the bible was written before Gilgamesh because Gilgamesh was written in early the BC's (like 2000bc)

anyone care to argue

i dont want to hear all you all calling athesiest and crap... cuz im not .

i believe in... a higher power, but i just think the bible is a bunch of nonsense

[blackxpearl]

ok firstly to set some things straight, even if they've been said before.

What you're talking about, I know it as Noah's Ark...

also, for anyone who says, or thinks the bible is bullsh!t...if it's so bullsh!t then why do you think there's so many catholics?

ugh I can't be bothered with the rest so I'll just go on and make my point

Stating the obvious, as I always do, nobody can really say what is bs from what is not. If you've read the bible, don't agree with it then fine, don't, that's your choice, nobody is asking you to be catholic, and to be honest, nobody really has the right to call is bs. To me, this debate is, in a sense, pointless, because no matter weather at the end we decide weather its bs or not, a debate won't verify the myseries of religeon. Nobody can. I don't care if I offend you by saying this but please don't try to convert anyone to being catholic, it's unfair, if they want to be catholic, they will be, and "god" will guide them there, or whatever he does.
As said before, JESUS WAS A JEW. The jewish religeon was around way before christianity.

And one other thing, while I can bother to type it, I'm not going to reflect my own beliefs on what I'm saying, this is just reasoning. If it comes across as if I am, say so because I'll want to think it over in a non biast(sp?) fashion.

So anyways, addictedtofire (and I'm not going to even bother putting in all the numbers and sh!t but I must refrain from saying anything offending that is aimed directly towards particular people) correct me if I've mistaken what you've said but,

um.. no the jews WERE NOT first...
secondly i am NOT athiest ok?

quit being judgemental

what makes you think the jews wern't first. Also, from what I've read nobody called you atheist. like I said above and it has been said before, jesus was a jew.

and

You have made a judgement without any real evidence ... the bible is true ...

check this site if you have the time and consider christianity please...

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/b_proof.shtml

wind&fire, you REALLY, SERIOUSLY are starting to p!ss me off. I hate when people say that their religeon, whatever that may be IS true. What proof do you have, and while there may be proof, it's the same for ALL religeons/belief systems. Unless you are "god" or whatever you don't KNOW.

to be honest, if you think you're religeon or whatever IS true, no doubt about it, nobody can argue back because it IS, quite definately(sp?) ture.
GO GET A LIFE and more education. Just because you say it's true, have proof, experienced whatever, god talks to you or WHATEVER, theres probably hundreds of people out there that feel the same way about their religeon, just because blah blah blah, doesn't mean it IS true. if anybody truely knew the truth do you think there would be so many religeons in the world? if this person KNEW, then he would have to have evidence that is undenyable(sp?), that anyone can see or whatever. And I think I've said before, don't convert people to your religeon, what exactly, makes it so great that it's better than any other religeon, you can't tell someone what to believe, and while making them read things and whatnot may convert them, you can't take away their true beliefs, it's called brainwashing.

so anyways, back on topic,

I think the bible is full of crap. Whoever wrote it (probably a group of ppl) just got ideas from old stories. and dont say that the bible was written before Gilgamesh because Gilgamesh was written in early the BC's (like 2000bc)

the use of the word probably makes me assume you have no idea. Well guess what, neither do I but it wasn't just a group of people, I think it was these people that knew jesus, and I'm NOT SURE so anyone that know please correct me but it wasn't all written at once, I assume one person wrote a bit, and another person wrote another bit then maybe archaeoligists or something found all the parts and put it together. To be honest I can't see that happening, so for now, I'm going to have to say you're probably right. Although, I read somewhere a while ago that there was this original extract fromt he bible and blah blah, which is saying there is an original bible. Although who is to say it genuine? And no, I'm not denying it's truth.
There are fault with the bible and whatever, but to the best of my knowledge it was written in hebrew or something, whatever relevance that has. There could still be major parts of the bible still to be found. By the way, they have yet to find with ark. So back to what I was saying, it could be that people are readin the bible and jumping to conclusions, because, I'm sure there are infinite different ways to read, digest, and understand a passage of text, nevermind a whole book. Also, someone said something along these lines to me once which made me think so I think I'll share it with ya.
She said that maybe our minds arn't -looks for right word- designed(?) to think about the world the way it really is...
so what I make from that is that maybe she's right, and I personally agree with her, maybe out minds arn't "designed" to think in the manner needed to solve the whole ongoing arguement as to which religeon is true. Could it be that all of them are, in a way, true, they have to have came from somewhere right? Also, do you think that maybe "god" didn't want us to truely know weather he exists or not. If there is a "god" I can only imagine him as being very smart, and since he/she would be out creator, we cannot therefore become wiser/smarter than he is. I get the feeling that if catholicism is correct, everything would be planned out, all perfectly times and in order, no matter how much we disagre, becuase that would be god's intentions. On the other hand I'm not catholic...
Have you ever thought though that maybe, just maybe there isn't anything out there, that when we die we are just that, dead. No after life, heaven or hell or anything, nothing. That the whole religeous "lark" is all a load of codswallop(sp?). Think about it, while we're all waiting on scientists having the answer they already thing they do, i think...anyways, I'm talking about the whole big band theory. So yeah, maybe we're argueing over, quite litrally, nothing. And does it even matter, can't we just live the life we're given and not have to worry about anything?