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Assassinating a dictator, Can it be justified?
simx
post Nov 23 2005, 09:54 PM
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Can the assassination of a dictator be justified?
 
 
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post Nov 23 2005, 11:31 PM
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I hate how people always think of dictators as evil tyrants.

If the dictator was killing people, its the same as giving a murderer the death penalty. An eye for an eye.

If he's a bad ruler and its a time of crisis (ie: attack from other nations), and the dictator can't properly protect the country, I think that might be neccessary for the survival of the entire country. Overthrow the dictator and put a new one up. However, in real life it would be way more complicated than just that.

But if the dictator is just annoying, then no. Thats just stupid.

Saddam Hussein = A dictator. Saddam Hussein =/= All dictators.

Ever hear about the Roman Empire? After the republic, a dictator came into power. He set the Roman Empire on its path to its golden age and then stepped down. Yeah. I just felt that had to be said, for the definitions sake. Dictators can be good too.
 
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post Nov 24 2005, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Nov 23 2005, 11:31 PM)
Saddam Hussein = A dictator. Saddam Hussein =/= All dictators.

Ever hear about the Roman Empire? After the republic, a dictator came into power. He set the Roman Empire on its path to its golden age and then stepped down. Yeah. I just felt that had to be said, for the definitions sake. Dictators can be good too.
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The dictator in the Roman Empire did not come after the Republic, but rather during the Republic. The Office of the Dictator was set up in order to give someone emergency powers in order to quell rebellion, repel invasion, and so forth. The term lasted six months, in which case control returned to the republican government.

Not all dictators were benevolent in Rome. Julius Caesar and Lucius Cornelius Sulla are two prime examples. In fact, the Office of the Dictator was abolished after the fiasco with Caesar, who declared himself dictator for life.

(Incidentally, the idea of the Office of the Dictator, and the subsquequent abuse of power by some dictators, is mirrored in Star Wars Episodes II and III.)
 
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post Nov 27 2005, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 24 2005, 2:07 AM)
The dictator in the Roman Empire did not come after the Republic, but rather during the Republic. The Office of the Dictator was set up in order to give someone emergency powers in order to quell rebellion, repel invasion, and so forth. The term lasted six months, in which case control returned to the republican government.

Not all dictators were benevolent in Rome. Julius Caesar and Lucius Cornelius Sulla are two prime examples. In fact, the Office of the Dictator was abolished after the fiasco with Caesar, who declared himself dictator for life.

(Incidentally, the idea of the Office of the Dictator, and the subsquequent abuse of power by some dictators, is mirrored in Star Wars Episodes II and III.)
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wow i never made that connection. very interesting
 

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simx   Assassinating a dictator   Nov 23 2005, 09:54 PM
tweeak   Yes, it certainly can be justified, depending on h...   Nov 23 2005, 11:23 PM
ermfermoo   I hate how people always think of dictators as evi...   Nov 23 2005, 11:31 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Nov 23 2005, 11:31 PM)Sadda...   Nov 24 2005, 02:07 AM
vash1530   QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 24 2005, 2:07 AM)The dicta...   Nov 27 2005, 11:39 PM
sovietski   If he is your dictator or shall we say your ruler ...   Nov 24 2005, 12:22 AM
vash1530   if someone decided that assassinating a dictator i...   Nov 24 2005, 12:26 AM
RiC3xBoy   It depends, a dictator is just someone who has abs...   Nov 24 2005, 12:33 AM
sheridan_whiteside   I doubt that an assassination would be very effect...   Dec 6 2005, 10:10 PM
SkaironFrenzy   only when they take the lives of countless people....   Dec 11 2005, 01:16 AM
Ajmalhuuss   Murdur can never be justified. If we decide to mu...   Jun 27 2006, 02:17 PM
ECD & C0   QUOTEMurdur can never be justified in some ways i...   Jun 29 2006, 09:19 PM
Sumiaki   QUOTEMurdur can never be justified I disagree. Ca...   Jun 29 2006, 10:48 PM
dtang4   It can be easily justified, especially if one life...   Jun 30 2006, 09:21 PM
Paradox of Life   ^ But it's against the law. Murder is against ...   Jul 2 2006, 09:30 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   It's very justified depends on the dictator...   Jul 2 2006, 06:56 PM
sakaitone   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jul 2 2006, 7...   Jul 3 2006, 12:35 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sakaitone @ Jul 2 2006, 10:35 PM) K...   Jul 3 2006, 03:30 AM
sakaitone   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jul 3 2006, 4...   Jul 3 2006, 01:34 PM
sadolakced acid   is the dictator cute, hot, and a woman? if so, th...   Jul 3 2006, 02:17 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 3 2006, 2:17 ...   Jul 3 2006, 05:44 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 3 2006, 3:44 ...   Jul 3 2006, 04:51 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jul 3 2006, 4...   Jul 3 2006, 07:09 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 3 2006, 5:09 ...   Jul 3 2006, 09:22 PM
sakaitone   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jul 3 2006, 5...   Jul 4 2006, 12:38 PM
Statues/Shadows   Was Hitler hot?   Jul 3 2006, 07:26 PM
sadolakced acid   hitler wasn't hot. but it's beside the ...   Jul 3 2006, 09:39 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   actually, he was a women. one of his balls were n...   Jul 4 2006, 01:52 AM
sadolakced acid   that doesn't make him a woman. and he wasn...   Jul 4 2006, 01:53 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   yes. i'm a little sweetheart ;]   Jul 6 2006, 09:41 PM
sadolakced acid   err... my requirements for not killing a dictator...   Jul 6 2006, 10:05 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   too bad. there's no sense of fairness and demo...   Jul 7 2006, 07:06 PM
ghetosmurph   The assasination of a dictator is moral if all of ...   Jul 15 2006, 10:55 AM
sadolakced acid   no assasination attempt is ever moral, no matter h...   Jul 15 2006, 10:26 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2006, 8:26...   Jul 16 2006, 04:41 AM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2006, 11:2...   Jul 16 2006, 12:19 PM
forza   I have to agree with him ^ on this one. Blindsidin...   Jul 16 2006, 04:29 AM
sadolakced acid   how do you know you're right, and he's wro...   Jul 16 2006, 11:02 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2006, 12:0...   Jul 17 2006, 02:21 PM
sadolakced acid   war is just when you're the morally right part...   Jul 17 2006, 07:05 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2006, 8:05...   Jul 18 2006, 12:30 PM
sadolakced acid   tell me one war in which the winning side was wron...   Jul 18 2006, 04:20 PM
ghetosmurph   I gave you an example.... Sulieman and the muslims...   Jul 20 2006, 11:21 AM
sadolakced acid   i don't call that a victory.   Jul 20 2006, 12:01 PM
ghetosmurph   Whatever, you asked for an example where the winni...   Jul 20 2006, 06:08 PM
sadolakced acid   morally wrong becuase you are on the "losing ...   Jul 20 2006, 09:03 PM
ghetosmurph   no, morally wrong because their own religion consi...   Jul 21 2006, 10:35 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2006, 8:26...   Jul 22 2006, 03:24 PM
sadolakced acid   killing and assasinating are rather different, in ...   Jul 23 2006, 08:27 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 23 2006, 9:27...   Jul 24 2006, 07:06 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 23 2006, 6:27...   Jul 25 2006, 02:17 AM
sadolakced acid   nothing can ever be morally justified because mora...   Jul 25 2006, 01:05 AM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 25 2006, 2:05...   Jul 25 2006, 03:50 PM
sadolakced acid   1) bob is clearly tyrranical, imposing christian ...   Jul 26 2006, 01:31 AM
ghetosmurph   1) Imposing certain standards (Christian or non) c...   Jul 28 2006, 12:08 AM
sadolakced acid   [quote name='ghetosmurph' date='Jul 28...   Jul 28 2006, 02:21 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 28 2006, 3:21...   Jul 28 2006, 05:33 PM
sadolakced acid   haha. nice. in depth. if you do not know US ...   Jul 28 2006, 06:26 PM
ghetosmurph   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 28 2006, 7:26...   Jul 31 2006, 03:34 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jul 31 2006, 3:34 PM)...   Aug 3 2006, 09:17 PM
vash1530   easily. the guys a dick so i shoot him. i decided ...   Jul 28 2006, 10:17 PM
ichigofan   assasinating a dictator, hmm hard one. It depends ...   Aug 3 2006, 02:23 PM
ghetosmurph   But I didn't disagree with you...... I agreed ...   Aug 4 2006, 09:48 AM
sadolakced acid   that's what i'm trying to say. nothing ev...   Aug 5 2006, 01:07 AM


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