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What do u think:, is the bible all bullsh!t?
add1cted2f1re
post Nov 24 2005, 07:41 PM
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Ok, we read this story called Gilgamesh if you haven't read it, google it. But basically its about this guy who wants to be immortal, and his dad tells him that one of the gods told him that a giant flood was coming to wipe out humanity.
(sound familiar?)
well... guess what he did? yep, he made a boat, filled it with his family and animals. then, when they grounded, he set out a bird to find land. blah blah blah, he repopulates the earth.

ok... now tell me that doesnt sound familiar.

I think the bible is full of crap. Whoever wrote it (probably a group of ppl) just got ideas from old stories. and dont say that the bible was written before Gilgamesh because Gilgamesh was written in early the BC's (like 2000bc)

anyone care to argue

i dont want to hear all you all calling athesiest and crap... cuz im not stubborn.gif .

i believe in... a higher power, but i just think the bible is a bunch of nonsense
 
 
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post Nov 27 2005, 01:23 AM
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Judaism was established before Christianity.

Jesus was Jewish. (Bible)

I hear people of the faith using science and physical evidence to always back up the existence of their faith. But really, I don't think they should use science. Religion is religion, you have faith in it. Faith isn't converting after physical evidence is shown. (Thomas wanting to see Jesus' palms after resurrection). Faith is the belief without physical evidence.

Thus there shouldn't be any attempt to prove to naysayers that the Bible is true to its stories. If you don't believe in its stories, you just don't believe. That's that.

Umm but I think if you repent all sins and then convert it's faith.


I think...the Bible is a good read. Good for contemporary morals.
 
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post Nov 27 2005, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Nov 27 2005, 1:23 AM)
I think...the Bible is a good read. Good for contemporary morals.
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That's a joke and a half.

(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.

(Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

You'll find better morals in Mein Kampf.

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon that the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel."
-- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason (1794)
 
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post Nov 27 2005, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Nov 27 2005, 7:10 PM)
That's a joke and a half.

(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.

(Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked.  Show no mercy; have no pity!  Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.  But do not touch anyone with the mark.  Begin your task right here at the Temple."  So they began by killing the seventy leaders.  "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded.  "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill!  Go!"  So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

You'll find better morals in Mein Kampf.

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon that the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel."
-- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason (1794)
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in response to that, all i have to say is that some people believe that god is a vengeful god, not a benevolent one.

eh.

i completely agree with you. i just like to see both sides of an issue.
 

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add1cted2f1re   What do u think:   Nov 24 2005, 07:41 PM
insomniac   first of all, its athiest. 2nd of all, the people...   Nov 24 2005, 07:52 PM
Tribal J_Rome   QUOTE(insomniac @ Nov 24 2005, 5:52 PM)first ...   Nov 24 2005, 08:05 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Nov 24 2005, 8:05 PM)uh...   Nov 24 2005, 08:12 PM
add1cted2f1re   QUOTE(insomniac @ Nov 24 2005, 8:52 PM)first ...   Nov 26 2005, 12:14 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(add1cted2f1re @ Nov 26 2005, 12:14 AM)u...   Nov 26 2005, 12:25 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(add1cted2f1re @ Nov 26 2005, 12:14 AM)u...   Nov 27 2005, 12:01 PM
kayemo   QUOTE(insomniac @ Nov 24 2005, 6:52 PM)first ...   Dec 1 2005, 01:26 AM
Tribal J_Rome   i guess so, but that's not the point! lol   Nov 24 2005, 08:13 PM
insomniac   i was just spelling the word right!   Nov 24 2005, 08:15 PM
Tribal J_Rome   oh.....my bad sorry for bein dumb :]   Nov 24 2005, 08:16 PM
wind&fire   You have made a judgement without any real evidenc...   Nov 25 2005, 07:54 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(wind&fire @ Nov 25 2005, 7:54 AM)Yo...   Nov 25 2005, 02:31 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(wind&fire @ Nov 25 2005, 7:54 AM)Yo...   Nov 25 2005, 05:13 PM
DaTru KataLYST   Judaism was established before Christianity. Jes...   Nov 27 2005, 01:23 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Nov 27 2005, 1:23 AM)I...   Nov 27 2005, 07:10 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Nov 27 2005, 7:10 PM...   Nov 27 2005, 08:33 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(insomniac @ Nov 27 2005, 8:33 PM)in res...   Nov 27 2005, 09:13 PM
disco infiltrator   This topic has 1) more or less been made before, 2...   Nov 27 2005, 11:33 AM
DaTru KataLYST   ^touche good sir, I was shallowly referencing to t...   Nov 27 2005, 08:30 PM
DaTru KataLYST   ^ It's still a good read.   Nov 27 2005, 11:09 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Nov 27 2005, 11:09 PM)...   Nov 28 2005, 01:23 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Nov 28 2005, 1:23 AM...   Nov 28 2005, 05:36 PM
add1cted2f1re   w/e... close it then -u guys have like... idk tau...   Nov 29 2005, 09:56 PM
insomniac   well..i mean, just understand that before you make...   Nov 29 2005, 11:42 PM
one_and_only   QUOTEA laugh? Sure. It's perfect for a few gut...   Dec 1 2005, 01:09 AM
kayemo   Also, regarding the whole Great Flood thing... I s...   Dec 1 2005, 01:31 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(kayemo @ Dec 1 2005, 1:31 AM)Also, rega...   Dec 1 2005, 10:06 AM
kayemo   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Dec 1 2005, 9:06 AM)...   Dec 1 2005, 12:04 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(kayemo @ Dec 1 2005, 12:04 PM)If the Bi...   Dec 1 2005, 10:57 PM
vash1530   i believe religion is an organization driven to co...   Dec 1 2005, 11:30 AM
Claudel   hEllo? giant/global flood? Archaeological evidenc...   Dec 1 2005, 11:47 AM
blackxpearl   ok firstly to set some things straight, even if th...   Dec 1 2005, 08:09 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(blackxpearl @ Dec 1 2005, 8:09 PM)also,...   Dec 1 2005, 09:47 PM
vash1530   most major religions have a flood story so someone...   Dec 5 2005, 02:16 AM
mipadi   I don't really see the point of attacking the ...   Dec 5 2005, 11:58 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 5 2005, 11:58 AM)I don...   Dec 5 2005, 05:25 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 5 2005, 11:58 AM)I don...   Dec 5 2005, 09:51 PM
mipadi   I don't see how your mentality is any differen...   Dec 6 2005, 01:31 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   I never said that. Infact, quite the contrary: ...   Dec 6 2005, 05:16 AM
mipadi   You miss the point of my statements. I'm simpl...   Dec 6 2005, 09:50 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 6 2005, 9:50 AM)I have a f...   Dec 6 2005, 01:10 PM
oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo   I dont think that it would be proper to talk about...   Dec 6 2005, 01:15 PM
mzbbc   alright. try looking at the argument from an aspec...   Dec 6 2005, 01:28 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   The atrocities, detestables, and total disregard f...   Dec 6 2005, 02:14 PM
illumineering   Acid Bath Slayer you've earned a great deal of...   Dec 15 2005, 03:09 PM
EndlessSite   The fact that people say God wasn't very ...   Dec 6 2005, 07:46 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EndlessSite @ Dec 6 2005, 7:46 PM)The f...   Dec 6 2005, 09:22 PM
sharpandcuddly   Oh, my, um. Well, I have something to show you al...   Dec 15 2005, 02:53 PM


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