girls with make-up or without?, which is better? Options

[Blank-OuT]

I prefer girls that don't wear make-up. Sometimes girls put a lot of make-up that make them look pretty and then when they take it off it's just eh, u know? Then there's some girls who try to put too much.

I know some people who prefer them with make-up though.

[verlorenrivets]

Okay, so you have a person. This person wishes to attract other people of the opposite sex to them. Instead of showing their true selves, they choose to wear a mask. This produces better results on a very basic level for attracting mates, because the mask is more interesting than just a normal face. This basic level of attraction isn't based in truth about the mask wearer. This basic attraction cuts out the whole getting to know you part outright, and immediately. Instead of the opposite sex choosing this mask wearer for it's personality, it chooses it for sexual appeal only, and will just fill in the gaps after they have made their choice on this.

Very basic psychology. If people were looking for love, rather than sex, they would choose to not wear a mask, as the mask only attracts those who want sex, and bases a relationship on a lie.

[mzbbc]

Okay, so you have a person. This person wishes to attract other people of the opposite sex to them. Instead of showing their true selves, they choose to wear a mask. This produces better results on a very basic level for attracting mates, because the mask is more interesting than just a normal face. This basic level of attraction isn't based in truth about the mask wearer. This basic attraction cuts out the whole getting to know you part outright, and immediately. Instead of the opposite sex choosing this mask wearer for it's personality, it chooses it for sexual appeal only, and will just fill in the gaps after they have made their choice on this.

Very basic psychology. If people were looking for love, rather than sex, they would choose to not wear a mask, as the mask only attracts those who want sex, and bases a relationship on a lie.

waitaminute.
so mask=makeup? i disagree with you there. i don't know if guys know why girls wear makeup, but it's NOT to fool anyone into thinking you look a certain way. it's to ACCENTUATE YOUR FEATURES and ENHANCE NATURAL BEAUTY. there's nothing fake about that. girls wear makeup for the reasons they take care of their hair and style it: to feel confident in their appearance. it's true that confidence=sex appeal, but the whole beauty routine and obsession stems from the duty we have to take care of our appearance. think about it: if a girl brushes her hair and uses styling products and conditioner, does this make her fake? is she wearing a "mask" because she's trying to take care of her hair? makeup is the same principle.

now i understand if you prefer girls who don't wear makeup because they feel CONFIDENT enough in their natural beauty already, but makeup is not a mask. it's maintance.

and if people were looking for love rather than sex, shouldn't they also be able to look past simple issues like makeup or no makeup?

[verlorenrivets]

waitaminute.
so mask=makeup? i disagree with you there. i don't know if guys know why girls wear makeup, but it's NOT to fool anyone into thinking you look a certain way. it's to ACCENTUATE YOUR FEATURES and ENHANCE NATURAL BEAUTY. there's nothing fake about that. girls wear makeup for the reasons they take care of their hair and style it: to feel confident in their appearance. it's true that confidence=sex appeal, but the whole beauty routine and obsession stems from the duty we have to take care of our appearance. think about it: if a girl brushes her hair and uses styling products and conditioner, does this make her fake? is she wearing a "mask" because she's trying to take care of her hair? makeup is the same principle.

now i understand if you prefer girls who don't wear makeup because they feel CONFIDENT enough in their natural beauty already, but makeup is not a mask. it's maintance.

and if people were looking for love rather than sex, shouldn't they also be able to look past simple issues like makeup or no makeup? 

According to your theory of makeup being an enhancement and accent of natural means: BREAST IMPLANTS "ACCENTUATE YOUR FEATURES and ENHANCE NATURAL BEAUTY". Girls who stuff their bras are accentuating their features for the goal of enhancing their natural beauty. There's a whole lot of fake that comes with that, in my opinion. All that a girl really, truly needs to attract a mate is some common sense, a shower, and a good personality.
On hair, I like natural hair. Washed and brushed is different than completely styled and chemically treated. I will make the contention that yes, if a girl spent more time than getting a nice haircut, washing, and brushing her hair that she's doing the same thing as she was with the makeup. Cleaning yourself is different than wearing a mask to cover yourself up.
I look past the makeup every day in my area. Do you know what I see? Girls that have ill intentions, and no will or reason in their minds to change them. They hide and cover them up, just to spring them on people who can't see through their masks. All of my girlfriends, even before I believed that there was anything wrong with wearing makeup, either were girls that didn't wear makeup, or wore such minimal makeup that it didn't change their natural appearance more than just making their skin less greasy looking (which really didn't matter anyway). Why? Because they had better personalities than all the other girls. Instead of focusing on your physical beauty, try focusing on your inner beauty. If you have a great deal of inner beauty, you really don't need any makeup to find the guy that you want. A good personality goes a long way with the right people.

[mzbbc]

According to your theory of makeup being an enhancement and accent of natural means: BREAST IMPLANTS "ACCENTUATE YOUR FEATURES and ENHANCE NATURAL BEAUTY". Girls who stuff their bras are accentuating their features for the goal of enhancing their natural beauty. There's a whole lot of fake that comes with that, in my opinion. All that a girl really, truly needs to attract a mate is some common sense, a shower, and a good personality.
On hair, I like natural hair. Washed and brushed is different than completely styled and chemically treated. I will make the contention that yes, if a girl spent more time than getting a nice haircut, washing, and brushing her hair that she's doing the same thing as she was with the makeup. Cleaning yourself is different than wearing a mask to cover yourself up.
I look past the makeup every day in my area. Do you know what I see? Girls that have ill intentions, and no will or reason in their minds to change them. They hide and cover them up, just to spring them on people who can't see through their masks. All of my girlfriends, even before I believed that there was anything wrong with wearing makeup, either were girls that didn't wear makeup, or wore such minimal makeup that it didn't change their natural appearance more than just making their skin less greasy looking (which really didn't matter anyway). Why? Because they had better personalities than all the other girls. Instead of focusing on your physical beauty, try focusing on your inner beauty. If you have a great deal of inner beauty, you really don't need any makeup to find the guy that you want. A good personality goes a long way with the right people.

what do breast implants have to do with makeup? obviously breast implants imply that a person can be shallow or has some superficial intentions. but there's a huge difference between wearing a little eyeliner and getting plastic surgery.

i have no problem with what you're saying, it's just that you're analyzing the personalities of girls who wear makeup and putting them into a separate box of girls who aren't your "type" (no makeup). isn't that a little superficial? what gives you the right to tell us that girls who wear makeup have better personalities than girls who don't?

what you're doing is judging people soley on how they look (wearing makeup). isn't that exactly what you condemn girls who wear makeup of doing?

[verlorenrivets]

what do breast implants have to do with makeup? obviously breast implants imply that a person can be shallow or has some superficial intentions. but there's a huge difference between wearing a little eyeliner and getting plastic surgery.

i have no problem with what you're saying, it's just that you're analyzing the personalities of girls who wear makeup and putting them into a separate box of girls who aren't your "type" (no makeup). isn't that a little superficial? what gives you the right to tell us that girls who wear makeup have better personalities than girls who don't? 

what you're doing is judging people soley on how they look (wearing makeup). isn't that exactly what you condemn girls who wear makeup of doing?

No, no, you've taken me wrong. I was making an observation based on my experiences that has told me that the girls who wore makeup always had something to hide, in contrast to the girls who didn't wear makeup that never really hid anything. I was also making the observation that it isn't such a great thing to, if you're looking for someone who is interested in your personality, to accentuate your sexuality, due to the fact that it is more likely to attract those who are only interested in your sexuality.

You seem to be taking this as a personal attack, and I'm sorry for that. I know where you're coming from, thinking that I'm a terrible person who is discriminating against girls who wear make-up and all, but it's really just an incompatibility with our schools of thought. I am doing the exact opposite of what you believe me to be doing. I judge people on their personalities primarily, and I observe that their choice in how they present themselves externally, reflects that. You don't have to believe it, I'm not trying to convince you to not wear makeup, I'm just making an observation based on past experiences.

Also, please don't think that the reason that I choose a mate is based on their preference to either wear make up or not, as that is blatantly false. I choose a mate based on personality, and through my personal experiences and preferences in personality, the girls who didn't wear the make-up were the ones that ended up correctly matched for me. I don't even think about whether someone wears make up or not when I'm personally trying to get to know them. It's not a factor unless I consider it to be to make a case on it, as I have here.

O_o... I hope that clears up any confusion?