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Are you religous?, And Why?
vash1530
post Nov 18 2005, 07:05 PM
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because of the recent debate i've been having in the "Jesus... is he Gay?" thread, i've decided to make a new thread so that I can argue eith ppl and not be off-topic. When anyone is ready, ill start the assault.
 
 
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*disco infiltrator*
post Nov 19 2005, 02:03 PM
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But it makes people feel better. Sure, the hope may be false, but at least it's hope that something better is to come. Some people don't need that hope, but some do. Why not leave them be? Leave them alone and they'll leave you alone too.

I'm an atheist as well, but you're going a bit overboard to the offensive. You should not try to push your beliefs on others. That's like Evangelism, only..not Christianity.

There's a reason people are Christian. It gives them something to look forward to and a way to reward themselves for following moral guidelines. Some people need that. I agree people shouldn't just be a way because a book said so, but some people want to. So leave them be.

Why do you feel the need to force everyone into having the same belief system as yourself? You need to grow up and realize that you alone cannot be only and completely right about everything (weird for me to say that, cause you're 2 months older than me, according to the birthday on your profile). Be more mature about the situation, hm?
 
zepfel
post Nov 19 2005, 02:25 PM
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whilst it may not strictly be the same as my opinion, i do kind of understand the thought behind this topic.

QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 19 2005, 8:03 PM)
But it makes people feel better. Sure, the hope may be false, but at least it's hope that something better is to come. Some people don't need that hope, but some do. Why not leave them be? Leave them alone and they'll leave you alone too.?
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there are other, and in some cases better, ways to gain hope. Using Christian values to live one's life, whilst practicing Buddhist meditation, for example, would not be classed as being religious, but in most cases increases the security a person feels, and makes them happier.

QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 19 2005, 8:03 PM)
I'm an atheist as well, but you're going a bit overboard to the offensive. You should not try to push your beliefs on others. That's like Evangelism, only..not Christianity.?
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Almost every religion tries to push it's beliefs on others. Jehovah's Witnesses are the most persistant buggers ever, but i don't dislike them in the slightest - i can tolerate them. which is what you're suggesting.
And anyway, Christianity pushes tolerance as a value, so why should Christians be particularly bothered? To me it sounds as if the most of the people arguing about this are in fact "atheists" (the quotation marks because it's touchy what an atheist really is - it's too broad an umbrella)


QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 19 2005, 8:03 PM)
Why do you feel the need to force everyone into having the same belief system as yourself? You need to grow up and realize that you alone cannot be only and completely right about everything (weird for me to say that, cause you're 2 months older than me, according to the birthday on your profile). Be more mature about the situation, hm?
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it's not immature to try and encourage reasoned discussion. this person has had a change of heart in their core beliefs - i don't think that it is in any way a bad thing that they should wish to share this.
 

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vash1530   Are you religous?   Nov 18 2005, 07:05 PM
c0cONuTTeR   I'm not "religous" I'm standing...   Nov 18 2005, 07:08 PM
vash1530   QUOTE(c0cONuTTeR @ Nov 18 2005, 7:08 PM)I...   Nov 18 2005, 08:36 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 18 2005, 9:36 PM)Not tru...   Nov 18 2005, 09:00 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 18 2005, 8:36 PM)Not tru...   Dec 20 2005, 11:44 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 20 2005, 11:44 PM)Well,...   Dec 22 2005, 05:45 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Dec 22 2005, 5:45 PM...   Dec 22 2005, 06:33 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 22 2005, 6:33 PM)Words....   Dec 24 2005, 03:57 AM
DrEaMgUy2K1   religion shoudnt be a topic to argue about. you ei...   Nov 18 2005, 07:10 PM
disco infiltrator   There's been two God threads; one with 50 page...   Nov 18 2005, 09:09 PM
Retrogressive   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 18 2005, 9:09 P...   Nov 19 2005, 01:32 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 18 2005, 7:05 PM)When an...   Nov 19 2005, 01:23 AM
verlorenrivets   QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 19 2005, 12:23 AM)Why, did...   Nov 20 2005, 10:21 PM
vash1530   o god did not hurt me as a boy stupid. i just find...   Nov 19 2005, 04:31 AM
gigiopolis   I'll get one thing straight right off the bat;...   Nov 19 2005, 04:43 AM
vash1530   QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Nov 19 2005, 4:43 AM)I...   Nov 19 2005, 05:13 AM
lilxl0ser   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 19 2005, 5:13 AM)ur gett...   Nov 20 2005, 08:01 PM
disco infiltrator   But it makes people feel better. Sure, the hope ma...   Nov 19 2005, 02:03 PM
zepfel   whilst it may not strictly be the same as my opini...   Nov 19 2005, 02:25 PM
disco infiltrator   But the way this guy is doing it isn't good. S...   Nov 19 2005, 04:15 PM
insomniac   im agnostic. i want to believe. i want to be just...   Nov 20 2005, 09:45 PM
latinprep12   a little, but i wont take jokes about my religion ...   Nov 20 2005, 10:23 PM
vash1530   wow..... you'd rather ppl act like sheep so th...   Nov 20 2005, 10:41 PM
verlorenrivets   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 20 2005, 9:41 PM)wow.......   Nov 20 2005, 11:03 PM
vash1530   QUOTE(verlorenrivets @ Nov 20 2005, 11:03 PM)...   Nov 20 2005, 11:15 PM
insomniac   you just seem really ignorant. im almost athiest....   Nov 21 2005, 01:56 PM
vash1530   QUOTE(insomniac @ Nov 21 2005, 1:56 PM)you ju...   Nov 21 2005, 02:16 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 21 2005, 2:16 PM)i under...   Nov 21 2005, 02:47 PM
vash1530   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Nov 21 2005, 2:47 PM)Be...   Nov 21 2005, 03:29 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 21 2005, 3:29 PM)im not ...   Nov 21 2005, 03:42 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 21 2005, 3:29 PM)im not ...   Nov 21 2005, 05:16 PM
not_your_average   To answer the question, no, I am not religious. I ...   Nov 21 2005, 03:20 PM
vash1530   QUOTE(not_your_average @ Nov 21 2005, 3:20 PM...   Nov 21 2005, 03:26 PM
verlorenrivets   Actually, not_your_average, you've stated a co...   Nov 21 2005, 03:37 PM
not_your_average   QUOTE(verlorenrivets @ Nov 21 2005, 3:37 PM)F...   Nov 21 2005, 03:46 PM
verlorenrivets   QUOTE(not_your_average @ Nov 21 2005, 2:46 PM...   Nov 21 2005, 04:02 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(verlorenrivets @ Nov 21 2005, 4:02 PM)C...   Nov 21 2005, 04:05 PM
verlorenrivets   QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 21 2005, 3:05 PM)It can, h...   Nov 21 2005, 04:09 PM
not_your_average   QUOTE(verlorenrivets @ Nov 21 2005, 4:02 PM)C...   Nov 21 2005, 04:11 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(verlorenrivets @ Nov 21 2005, 3:37 PM)D...   Nov 21 2005, 03:59 PM
not_your_average   deleted.   Nov 21 2005, 03:39 PM
vash1530   it is actually not logical at all to educated peop...   Nov 22 2005, 10:10 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 22 2005, 11:10 PM)i have...   Nov 22 2005, 10:53 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 22 2005, 10:10 PM)it is ...   Nov 22 2005, 10:55 PM
disco infiltrator   That is because you are you, and not someone else....   Nov 22 2005, 10:54 PM
illumineering   Disco Infiltrator was that post for me or the pers...   Nov 22 2005, 11:02 PM
disco infiltrator   Person above you.   Nov 23 2005, 05:26 PM
insomniac   to the person who started this topic..vash----: o...   Nov 23 2005, 06:27 PM
The_AZN_Godfather   I personally don't like to get into religion t...   Dec 5 2005, 05:47 PM
HuGzNKissEs   I'm just going to say this the way my dad alwa...   Dec 5 2005, 05:53 PM
disco infiltrator   And what if there isn't? You just spent your w...   Dec 5 2005, 06:11 PM
The_AZN_Godfather   If we knew what happends after we die, then I...   Dec 5 2005, 06:23 PM
HuGzNKissEs   QUOTESpent your life thinking you were higher than...   Dec 5 2005, 07:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(HuGzNKissEs @ Dec 5 2005, 7:07 PM)I als...   Dec 6 2005, 09:58 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(HuGzNKissEs @ Dec 5 2005, 7:07 PM)I als...   Dec 6 2005, 01:23 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(HuGzNKissEs @ Dec 5 2005, 7:07 PM)I beg...   Dec 8 2005, 08:54 PM
oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo   I am   Dec 6 2005, 01:27 PM
HuGzNKissEs   QUOTEBecause, under your own belief, if you don...   Dec 8 2005, 05:09 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(HuGzNKissEs @ Dec 8 2005, 5:09 PM)Actua...   Dec 8 2005, 05:31 PM
PiGo   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Dec 8 2005, 5:31 PM)...   Dec 8 2005, 07:41 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(PiGo @ Dec 8 2005, 7:41 PM)I've alw...   Dec 8 2005, 07:45 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(PiGo @ Dec 8 2005, 7:41 PM)He doesn...   Dec 8 2005, 08:36 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(HuGzNKissEs @ Dec 8 2005, 5:09 PM)O yeh...   Dec 8 2005, 06:39 PM
HuGzNKissEs   thats kinda scary when u think about it...but i th...   Dec 8 2005, 05:38 PM
insomniac   QUOTE(HuGzNKissEs @ Dec 8 2005, 5:38 PM)thats...   Dec 8 2005, 06:41 PM
Spirited Away   So then what is true in Christianity if all are co...   Dec 8 2005, 08:47 PM
PiGo   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Dec 8 2005, 8:47 PM)So ...   Dec 8 2005, 10:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(PiGo @ Dec 8 2005, 10:19 PM)There are m...   Dec 8 2005, 11:06 PM
illfadedsoldier   hey dude i dont get y ppl care about something tha...   Dec 8 2005, 08:50 PM
HuGzNKissEs   disco infiltrator: I do appologize. After my pos...   Dec 9 2005, 05:36 PM
BrandonSaunders   My humanistic ideals are accredited to my belief i...   Dec 10 2005, 11:59 AM
vash1530   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Dec 10 2005, 11:59 AM...   Dec 16 2005, 11:23 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Dec 16 2005, 11:23 AM)You ca...   Dec 16 2005, 01:41 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(mipadi @ Dec 16 2005, 12:41 PM)That...   Dec 16 2005, 05:30 PM
unicocira   QUOTE(vash1530 @ Dec 16 2005, 11:23 AM)You ca...   Dec 27 2005, 08:34 AM
skp86   Me= not religous, says god, doesn't go to chur...   Dec 22 2005, 05:55 PM
ComradeRed   I have this friend who is quite religious and whil...   Dec 23 2005, 09:03 PM
omgah_itsmaggiex   no. im not. i used to beleive in god, attended sum...   Dec 26 2005, 12:36 AM
insomniac   QUOTE(omgah_itsmaggiex @ Dec 26 2005, 12:36 A...   Jan 23 2006, 05:08 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(insomniac @ Jan 23 2006, 5:08 PM)well t...   Jan 23 2006, 05:13 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 23 2006, 5:13 PM...   Jan 23 2006, 05:37 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 23 2006, 5:37 PM)God di...   Jan 23 2006, 07:19 PM
f4113n   religion is a way to explain what common sense can...   Dec 26 2005, 10:55 PM
ComradeRed   Everything in moderation; I've never met an at...   Dec 26 2005, 11:26 PM
FoxBandCutie08   I am agnostic, raised in a Catholic house, and I d...   Jan 3 2006, 09:10 PM
yo pusha   I am not religeous. I think that more and more rel...   Jan 22 2006, 11:07 PM
vash1530   ^i love ur care free tone!!!   Jan 23 2006, 08:28 PM
[pshaa]shauna   vash---- To tell you the truth, athiesism is just...   Jan 30 2006, 10:02 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE([pshaa)shauna,Jan 30 2006, 10:02 PM]To ...   Jan 30 2006, 10:29 PM
[pshaa]shauna   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 30 2006, 10:29 P...   Jan 31 2006, 07:12 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE([pshaa)shauna,Jan 31 2006, 7:12 PM]And ...   Jan 31 2006, 07:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE([pshaa)shauna,Jan 30 2006, 10:02 PM]To ...   Jan 30 2006, 11:49 PM
disco infiltrator   1) People need to start proofreading their posts. ...   Jan 31 2006, 07:38 PM
[pshaa]shauna   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Jan 31 2006, 7:38 P...   Jan 31 2006, 08:49 PM
De112   aight so where did this "large blast" co...   Jan 31 2006, 07:41 PM
disco infiltrator   A giant star died. When large stars die, they expl...   Jan 31 2006, 07:44 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Jan 31 2006, 7:44 P...   Jan 31 2006, 08:03 PM
De112   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 31 2006, 7:03 PM)Where...   Feb 1 2006, 06:56 PM
sheridan_whiteside   Listen kids, when you get to college, you will lea...   Jan 31 2006, 10:01 PM
disco infiltrator   Er, Shauna, it's still wrong. Sorry. QUOTEMe:...   Jan 31 2006, 10:23 PM
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