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Environment vs. Economy
*Kathleen*
post May 13 2004, 09:03 PM
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All right, so since I want to see a different topic out there...this one's from February's Lincoln-Douglas topic:

Resolved: A government's obligation to protect the environment ought to take precedence over its obligation to promote economic development.

I'm on the negative side for this, seeing that only by providing a healthy, stable economy can you be able to help the environment. The products of a good economy are what help improve the environment.

Haha don't worry...I have more points...I've researched both sides to this, so bring it on. _smile.gif
 
 
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xjjajeengx
post May 13 2004, 09:51 PM
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Hehe (I'll be nice) more people die from living in poverty because they're government has an unstable economy opposed to how many people actually die from pollution-related causes.

still scary... cry.gif i dont think i was meant to be a debater. laugh.gif
Well, i think that if the people had more land to live off of then they wouldnt die so much. i mean, i think its like government's fault for taking all the land and cutting down the trees to use the land for buisnesses and to get more money. Yes, money is an important factor, but if people were to base their lives on making the enviornment more better instead of being so money hungry and so economy-ish (hahaha no word for that!! laugh.gif ) i think the world would be better... i mean, other country's economies partly are not stable in economy because stable economies (ike that of U.S.) are so power hungry!! blink.gif We all came from living off of the land, i think that economy and all this complex stuff coming through made the poor and rich gap larger and stuff (okay, and im like "where does this all fit in?" )
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Well, there are also new studies and medical things and whatnot that arise from the good economy.

But there are also many deaths that arise from economy; car accidents soared up because we have so many cars and sometimes very careless drivers who cease to understand the need to drive carefully since their insurance covers everything. blink.gif Once again, the economy's stability is what puts a huge gap between the poor and the rich, and not to mention puts middle class people at a disadvantage...
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Hehe are you talking about that little thing called global warming by any chance?  It's funny because scientists in the seventies were complaining about global cooling...turns out they were wrong.

My bad. But it is proven that trees help cool the temperature down. (i think* i heard this from science class)

Oh man i was right!! Kathleen is a crazy debater!! ohmy.gif all her facts are like WHOOSH laugh.gif im working on this debate thing so technically im a newb laugh.gif
 

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Kathleen   Environment vs. Economy   May 13 2004, 09:03 PM
WildGriffin   yeah,economy first. but the problem is that the st...   May 13 2004, 09:05 PM
Spirited Away   This is one of the hardest debates to choose a sid...   May 13 2004, 09:13 PM
xjjajeengx   Well, I'm not a outdoor kind of person, but i ...   May 13 2004, 09:13 PM
NatiMarie   Good topic Kathleen. I serioulsy don't even kn...   May 13 2004, 09:22 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEi feel that we already have so much polution ...   May 13 2004, 09:30 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 13 2004, 9:30 PM)Are we ...   May 13 2004, 09:42 PM
xjjajeengx   QUOTEHehe (I'll be nice) more people die from ...   May 13 2004, 09:51 PM
stryker76   Im boarder lined on this one...i mean yeah a good ...   May 13 2004, 10:11 PM
tkproduce   I'd like to share a revelation that I've h...   May 14 2004, 02:57 AM
WildGriffin   QUOTEI'd like to share a revelation that I...   May 14 2004, 04:48 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEOh and on the Global warming thing...yeah its...   May 14 2004, 02:20 PM
WildGriffin   QUOTEwe have laws that make sure you don't dep...   May 14 2004, 02:36 PM
Kathleen   Haha...pft...everyone has to obey the laws!   May 14 2004, 02:42 PM
tkproduce   I hope you people know that plants respire (I...   May 14 2004, 02:58 PM
jewishbabeygirl87   just leave enough environment so that if we ever d...   May 14 2004, 03:02 PM
WildGriffin   QUOTElike the rainforests "f*ck the rainfores...   May 14 2004, 03:30 PM
Kathleen   Ah, yes, tk - I forgot to mention that, but still....   May 14 2004, 03:51 PM
xjjajeengx   okay im just lost now. im out of this debate. all...   May 14 2004, 06:14 PM
Kathleen   Hehe...aww...you'll do great, Grace! Good ...   May 14 2004, 06:21 PM
Spirited Away   I like it , I like things with economics.   May 14 2004, 09:33 PM
ComradeRed   Just remember that the Earth has seniority over us...   May 16 2004, 08:20 PM
Spirited Away   No one replied to me, so I had to re-post.. A tho...   May 16 2004, 09:34 PM
strice   being a border line hippie, i choose the environme...   May 16 2004, 09:37 PM
tkproduce   The human race will self destruct anyway, I think....   May 17 2004, 02:25 AM
Kathleen   QUOTE(strice @ May 16 2004, 10:37 PM)being a ...   May 17 2004, 10:04 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 17 2004, 10:04 AM)Do you...   May 17 2004, 02:37 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEBut how can you be sure that prioritizing eco...   May 17 2004, 02:42 PM
EmeraldKnight   haha this topic reminds me of policy debate this y...   May 18 2004, 09:02 PM
stryker76   QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 14 2004, 3:58 PM)I hope...   May 18 2004, 09:56 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEWHOA hold on here...please no false info...no...   May 18 2004, 10:00 PM
tkproduce   QUOTE(stryker76 @ May 19 2004, 2:56 AM)WHOA h...   May 19 2004, 02:04 AM
EmeraldKnight   Maybe we should have a separate debate on the legi...   May 19 2004, 02:06 AM
tkproduce   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 7:06 AM)Ma...   May 19 2004, 02:12 AM
EmeraldKnight   Then can we please get back on topic?   May 19 2004, 04:07 PM
Kathleen   That would be nice. See I'm mainly for the e...   May 19 2004, 04:13 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTESee I'm mainly for the economy simply bec...   May 19 2004, 04:17 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 17 2004, 2:42 PM)Well, w...   May 19 2004, 06:11 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 19 2004, 4:13 PM)That wo...   May 19 2004, 06:20 PM
shawty_redd   i think that enviroment is more important because ...   May 19 2004, 06:38 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEi think that enviroment is more important bec...   May 19 2004, 07:39 PM
shawty_redd   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 6:39 PM)Bu...   May 19 2004, 08:25 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEbut to make money u need the enviroment...wit...   May 19 2004, 08:32 PM
Spirited Away   I wouldn't say all of our spending would need ...   May 19 2004, 09:14 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEI think so long as we and big businesses are ...   May 19 2004, 09:25 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 9:25 PM)Th...   May 19 2004, 10:22 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEExactly. Why would you want to worry about th...   May 19 2004, 10:28 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 10:28 PM)u...   May 19 2004, 11:00 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTESeriously speaking, it wouldn't be so bad...   May 19 2004, 11:02 PM
strice   there is no choosing one or the other, really. if ...   May 19 2004, 11:44 PM
EmeraldKnight   But see, there is choosing one or the other, depen...   May 19 2004, 11:52 PM
shawty_redd   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 19 2004, 7:32 PM)I ...   May 20 2004, 08:38 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEmuch of the deficit comes from the war..the u...   May 20 2004, 02:00 PM
Kathleen   Hmm...I suppose people aren't considering the ...   May 20 2004, 03:08 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 20 2004, 3:08 PM)Hmm...I...   May 20 2004, 03:19 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEPrecedence means which should come FIRST. You...   May 20 2004, 05:14 PM
Kathleen   Minda, about your focusing-on-the-economy-doesn...   May 20 2004, 05:35 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 20 2004, 5:35 PM)Minda, ...   May 20 2004, 05:46 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEMOST of the time the government focuses on he...   May 20 2004, 05:56 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 5:56 PM)BU...   May 20 2004, 06:21 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEIf you pass NO laws regarding economy, and on...   May 20 2004, 06:25 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:25 PM)Bu...   May 20 2004, 06:38 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEPrecedence means which should come FIRST. You...   May 20 2004, 06:39 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:39 PM)Is...   May 20 2004, 06:42 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEI'm taking the environment side. I say th...   May 20 2004, 06:46 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:46 PM)Ho...   May 20 2004, 06:49 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEIn economics, the definition of a "publi...   May 20 2004, 06:51 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 6:51 PM)Al...   May 20 2004, 07:02 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEBecause a public good (commons) should be man...   May 20 2004, 07:09 PM
Spirited Away   I disagree, the economy is not just public or priv...   May 20 2004, 07:10 PM
EmeraldKnight   See.. you guys actually know stuff about economics...   May 20 2004, 07:11 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 7:11 PM)Se...   May 20 2004, 07:16 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:10 PM)I ...   May 20 2004, 07:28 PM
EmeraldKnight   I'm still not seeing why the government should...   May 20 2004, 07:29 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 20 2004, 7:29 PM)I...   May 20 2004, 07:33 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 20 2004, 7:28 PM)Econo...   May 20 2004, 07:41 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:41 PM)Ev...   May 20 2004, 07:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 20 2004, 7:43 PM)Where...   May 20 2004, 07:46 PM
angel-roh   QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 13 2004, 7:13 PM)Well,...   May 22 2004, 07:24 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEi agree with u, grace... im not that outdoor ...   May 22 2004, 02:27 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:46 PM)An...   May 22 2004, 04:28 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 22 2004, 4:28 PM)Every...   May 22 2004, 04:30 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 22 2004, 4:30 PM)Ac...   May 22 2004, 04:32 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 22 2004, 4:32 PM)The e...   May 22 2004, 04:38 PM


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