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presentation on other cultures in public schools
*disco infiltrator*
post Nov 9 2005, 05:44 PM
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A couple weeks ago, a Muslim family in Porter Lakes schools in Porter County, Indiana, made a presentation to the entire second grade and one third grade class at Porter Lakes Elementary School. Upon hearing this, many parents were upset about not being asked permission for this children to attend this presentation.

The couple that put on the presentation insists that it was only to initiate knowledge of the practices of the religion so their children, who attend the school, wouldn't be made fun of because others didn't know why they did things such as wearing the hijab, or headscarf, or pray 5 times a day, etc. It was just to inform. However, many other parents in the school district claim that their child is being influenced and may convert to the religion through hearing these things.

Some quotes from a few parents heard at the board meeting about the issue:
"I'm not racist, but when it comes to Muslim people, I have some concern."
"I didn't answer my child's questions on the subject because one, I don't know, and two, she doesn't need to know."
"There should have definitely been a permission slip sent home because I would have never allowed that. I don't want my child to see these things or be around these types of people."
"I don't understand why they don't just go to a private school anyway."

There was also talk of a "prayer room" set aside for the Muslim children due to the requirements of the religion (praying 5 times a day - two of these occur during the school day). National law says public schools have to accomodate each student - no matter what the circumstances.

A quote from one concerned mother: "If they're going to let some students have religion present in the school, they should do it for all. I request that an altar be put in for my Catholic boy." (Though, Catholicism doesn't require any participants to pray at any certain time of the day, and, in most schools, after the Pledge of Allegiance is said, a "moment of silence" is set aside and children can pray then.)

Now, due to advice from the school's principal, the family has opened up their home to anyone who wants to look around to assure people that they are not terrorists. However, one of the men on the police force for the area has been eyeing them carefully. He is constantly parked outside their house and has grilled their neighbor for information for them, even though he has run their name through the police computers and has found no terrorist ties.




Discuss. I'm pretty sure no one's thoughts on the issue on this site will differ all too much from mine, or anyone else's, but it's a good topic, IMO.

This school is about 15 minutes away from where I live, by the way. Just so you know how I knew about all of this.
 
 
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*mona lisa*
post Nov 9 2005, 09:14 PM
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Hmm, I think a notice to parents would have been a good idea when schools opt for guest speakers to make presentations to elementary school students. At that age, a child's cognitive abilities may not be so developed as to understand certain issues and are sensitive to the information that's presented to them. They're curious and the parents of these children may not be the most qualified people to satiate such curiosities.

It's unfortunate the children who were made curious by the presentation may not look to their parents to further their knowledge without bias and discriminatory attitudes, such as the one whose parent said that he/she "didn't need to know". Seeing how a child's understanding of the issue is limitted, he/she will be sway by his/her parents attitudes and may think of what he/she have learned in a negative light.

If I were a parent, I would appreciate a notice. I think that my child would have more of a chance to form his/her own opinion if he/she were a bit older and not allow him/her to attend the presentation. This is strictly an age problem to me. If my child expresses interest about religion or has false views about religions at that age, I would not prohibit his/her learning. However, coming to them in a classroom environment is almost like forcing them to sit through a sermon, even if that was never the purpose. It doesn't matter the religion that was talked about. I would feel the same if a Christian, Buddhist, or Jew made the presentation.

I understand what you're saying, but what opinion would the child need to form on his/her own when they are a bit older? They don't exactly have to express an interest in a particular religion to learn the basic tenets of that religion and learn to leave the other children to pray in peace. Why do they need to be made fun of simply because they practice a religion that is different from their own? The purpose of the presentation was to inform the non-Muslim children so that they could understand why their fellow classmates pray five times a day, why most girls where a hijab, etc. I agree with you in that a notice should have been given out, although if it were a permission slip, do you really think the parents would let their child go to school that day and listen to the presentation? Most likely not. It's fine if the parents don't want their child exposed to certain things at a young age, but if it will teach them new values, then why should the parents be worried? It's also fine if the parents don't want to teach their child(ren) certain things, but this is life. It's most likely that when they get older, the child will encounter at least one Muslim person. If they are taught to turn their heads on them at a young age, they won't exactly be kind and respectful to them at an elder age.
 

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disco infiltrator   presentation on other cultures in public schools   Nov 9 2005, 05:44 PM
Heathasm   well im all for learning more about other cultures...   Nov 9 2005, 05:55 PM
disco infiltrator   But don't you think it would be better for the...   Nov 9 2005, 05:59 PM
Heathasm   QUOTEBut don't you think it would be better fo...   Nov 9 2005, 06:19 PM
b0st0ngrl   I think that the parents were overreacting a littl...   Nov 9 2005, 06:01 PM
disco infiltrator   Like what? Letting the Mulsim students perform the...   Nov 9 2005, 06:06 PM
LordAwesome   i attended that school. and it is shallow and igno...   Nov 9 2005, 06:06 PM
disco infiltrator   Our superintendent's an idiot..just wanted to ...   Nov 9 2005, 06:22 PM
mai_z   QUOTE"I'm not racist, but when it comes t...   Nov 9 2005, 06:26 PM
disco infiltrator   Perhaps I should clarify, again. That wasn't ...   Nov 9 2005, 06:28 PM
mona lisa   I basically agree with you, Sammi. It's despic...   Nov 9 2005, 06:30 PM
disco infiltrator   Not only a presentation on another religion...anyt...   Nov 9 2005, 06:34 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 9 2005, 6:34 PM...   Nov 9 2005, 06:49 PM
mai_z   Sorry...the knowledge thing is good. Parents send ...   Nov 9 2005, 06:38 PM
disco infiltrator   I agree completely with you. Yes, a majority is C...   Nov 9 2005, 07:12 PM
Spirited Away   Hmm, I think a notice to parents would have been a...   Nov 9 2005, 08:42 PM
BrandonSaunders   Welcome to the ignorant Land of the Oppressed. Th...   Nov 9 2005, 09:06 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Spirited Away)Hmm, I think a notice to paren...   Nov 9 2005, 09:14 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Nov 9 2005, 9:14 PM)I under...   Nov 9 2005, 10:30 PM
disco infiltrator   Well, it's not like they go in-depth about the...   Nov 9 2005, 11:20 PM
verlorenrivets   I'm going to have to agree with Disco Infiltra...   Nov 10 2005, 02:06 PM
evanbunnell   One day, when I've made enough money and have ...   Nov 10 2005, 03:26 PM
disco infiltrator   ^ YOU STOLE MY PLAN!!! Wade, use my ...   Nov 10 2005, 05:23 PM
verlorenrivets   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 10 2005, 4:23 P...   Nov 10 2005, 09:12 PM
andromeda_90   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 9 2005, 5:44 PM...   Nov 10 2005, 09:26 PM
evanbunnell   QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Nov 10 2005, 9:26 PM)Peo...   Nov 10 2005, 09:39 PM
reflection   QUOTEBut I bet that if it was a Christian family w...   Nov 11 2005, 10:56 AM


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