"under God", should it be taken out?? |
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 Mar 25 2004, 07:41 PM
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The case is up before the Supreme Court. So what do you think??
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Nov 6 2005, 08:22 PM
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 "Silly me, I thought this was a free country" Group: Human Posts: 1,666 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 60,913 |
It really depends on how you look at it... I don't think it's necessary to take it out... this idea of seperation of church and state isn't specifically writen into our Constitution and this country *was* founded on
"Christian" values.. our founding fathers were very religious men. Reciting the pledge of allegiance isn't required... it's optional... if you don't feel comfortable with it you can just opt not to recite it.. it's not a big deal. |
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Nov 7 2005, 06:28 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(simx @ Nov 6 2005, 8:22 PM) It really depends on how you look at it... I don't think it's necessary to take it out... this idea of seperation of church and state isn't specifically writen into our Constitution and this country *was* founded on "Christian" values.. our founding fathers were very religious men. Reciting the pledge of allegiance isn't required... it's optional... if you don't feel comfortable with it you can just opt not to recite it.. it's not a big deal.  NO. This country was founded on the principle of religious freedom, not Christian values. The Constitution has no mention of God or Christianity. And though "seperation of Church and State" is not stated word for word, it is clearly implied by the restrictions of government 'to make laws respecting an establishment of religion". Our most important Founding Fathers were Deists. Learn your history, man. Also, the problem isn't reciting the pledge, the problem is "under God". |
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starling "under God" Mar 25 2004, 07:41 PM
Podomaht nope. you dont have to say the pledge. all you hav... Mar 25 2004, 07:42 PM
xl0stxThoughtx QUOTE(Podomaht @ Mar 25 2004, 8:42 PM)nope. y... Nov 9 2005, 10:01 PM waccoon in god we trust isn't in the pledge. in god we... Mar 25 2004, 07:44 PM one_and_only if there really was no god whats the harm in a few... Nov 19 2005, 12:19 AM AlwayzADreamur QUOTE(Podomaht @ Mar 25 2004, 7:42 PM)nope. y... Mar 25 2004, 07:44 PM xjjajeengx our forfathers (or what you call them) based our c... Mar 25 2004, 07:45 PM waccoon QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ Mar 25 2004, 7:45 PM)our f... Mar 25 2004, 07:46 PM starling QUOTE(waccoon @ Mar 25 2004, 7:44 PM)in god w... Mar 25 2004, 07:47 PM juliar in god we trust is in money
under god is in the pl... Mar 25 2004, 07:48 PM xjjajeengx my bad, typo.
hmm...true, they didnt base it on G... Mar 25 2004, 07:48 PM pyrochick19770 i think it should be left in, not just cuz im Cath... Mar 25 2004, 07:50 PM darkestdesire Why should we remove "in God we trust", ... Mar 25 2004, 07:52 PM Podomaht QUOTE(waccoon @ Mar 25 2004, 7:46 PM)what abo... Mar 25 2004, 07:54 PM starling exactly. saying the Pledge is optional - and so i... Mar 25 2004, 07:55 PM ANTWON Wow. I'm the only one who's voted yes...
I... Mar 25 2004, 07:58 PM kryogenix QUOTE(waccoon @ Mar 25 2004, 7:46 PM)what abo... Mar 25 2004, 07:58 PM waccoon QUOTE(pyrochick19770 @ Mar 25 2004, 7:50 PM)i... Mar 25 2004, 08:18 PM Lil_Cloud Oh yea, i heard about this on the news the other d... Mar 25 2004, 08:38 PM jimmyjackiechan I don't really care. I been using dollar bill... Mar 25 2004, 08:40 PM krnxswat topic title edited. Mar 25 2004, 10:44 PM stryker76 I think it should either be takin out or the pledg... Mar 25 2004, 11:10 PM justsomeboi QUOTEI think it should either be takin out or the ... Mar 25 2004, 11:17 PM stryker76 I would have to agree with you almost totally on t... Mar 25 2004, 11:27 PM waccoon i agree, even though atheists make up ten percent ... Mar 25 2004, 11:52 PM Co.Oky me "under God" should be kept..because I be... Mar 26 2004, 01:25 AM stryker76 QUOTE(Co.Oky me @ Mar 26 2004, 1:25 AM)... Mar 26 2004, 06:44 AM starling QUOTE(krnxswat @ Mar 25 2004, 10:44 PM)topic ... Mar 26 2004, 08:16 AM starling QUOTE(waccoon @ Mar 25 2004, 11:52 PM)i agree... Mar 26 2004, 08:19 AM DisneyPrincessKate It's always been there. Why is our country su... Mar 26 2004, 04:29 PM iloveyou07 No!!! It needs to stay there!... Mar 26 2004, 04:30 PM AngelicEyz00 No... leave it in, it's been like that forever... Mar 26 2004, 04:34 PM stryker76 At my school we have to stand and say the pledge o... Mar 26 2004, 05:01 PM m@dcow i believe that the athiests have rights too.. and ... Mar 26 2004, 07:26 PM adoggydog195 no Mar 26 2004, 07:28 PM xXCloudStrifeXx all i have to say is that
the goverment is stupi... Mar 26 2004, 08:08 PM 2ruPnoy i say no and its not like the poll counts and i ha... Mar 26 2004, 08:44 PM CEP QUOTEif ur atiest y do u post here its not likeu c... Mar 26 2004, 08:53 PM peanutbutterbbb RE: "under God" Mar 27 2004, 12:10 AM CEP ^ Damn, That's pretty deep. Where'd you fi... Mar 27 2004, 12:32 AM justsomeboi QUOTE(stryker76 @ Mar 26 2004, 6:44 AM)That i... Mar 27 2004, 09:41 AM defjam_gangsta Greetings!!
tat's a pretty good expla... Jul 28 2004, 06:29 AM chanleythemanley I just say leave it in because it's always bee... Jul 28 2004, 06:53 AM Corianboi the pledge is already optional, and no one puts a ... Jul 28 2004, 07:22 AM Knight Hmmmmm... This is a tough one... Keeping "U... Jul 28 2004, 10:08 AM jk9286 No it should not. Is it harming anybody? No. It... Jul 28 2004, 11:02 AM LiNHy POO QUOTE(Podomaht @ Mar 25 2004, 7:42 PM)nope. y... Jul 28 2004, 12:00 PM JlIaTMK yup.... take it out.... NOW.... lol i just dont li... Jul 28 2004, 12:09 PM xcaitlinx i've always thought it should be taken out. ou... Nov 6 2005, 10:56 AM Spirited Away "NEW! Polls are not allowed in debate for... Nov 6 2005, 11:18 AM evanbunnell Seperation of church and state.
This country is f... Nov 7 2005, 03:23 AM insomniac i dont think "under god" should be in th... Nov 7 2005, 09:12 PM andromeda_90 People shouldn't take that seriously. I mean s... Nov 7 2005, 09:13 PM c0cONuTTeR I think it shouldn't but, if I were in the 180... Nov 7 2005, 10:13 PM elainedcuzunome i don't think forcing people to say it is appr... Nov 7 2005, 11:26 PM Evil_One1 the original pledge didn't mention it. actuall... Nov 11 2005, 10:46 PM monique.. if you dont like it, dont say it. simple as that. Nov 12 2005, 12:34 AM disco infiltrator Yea, I don't say the pledge when asked to in s... Nov 12 2005, 01:07 AM monique.. were you being sarcastic? or you really dont say i... Nov 12 2005, 03:09 AM simx QUOTE(monique.. @ Nov 12 2005, 3:09 AM)were y... Nov 14 2005, 10:31 PM disco infiltrator No, I really don't say it. We're told to, ... Nov 12 2005, 11:02 AM vehvih Uh huh, I don't say the pledge of allegiance t... Nov 13 2005, 07:45 PM emazing Since I am a Catholic, I strongly believe no would... Nov 18 2005, 01:19 AM disco infiltrator ^ But why? What satisfaction do you take in making... Nov 18 2005, 01:26 PM evanbunnell I feel pressured into believing when I read that o... Nov 19 2005, 05:17 AM Retrogressive I believe that this is our history, erasing histor... Nov 19 2005, 05:31 AM disco infiltrator NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS.
Peopl... Nov 19 2005, 01:58 PM Tribal J_Rome QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 19 2005, 11:58 ... Nov 19 2005, 02:07 PM waccoon QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 19 2005, 1:58 P... Nov 21 2005, 01:15 AM one_and_only QUOTE^ But why? What satisfaction do you take in m... Nov 21 2005, 12:01 AM disco infiltrator And like I've said, more than once, it makes t... Nov 21 2005, 01:05 AM one_and_only QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 20 2005, 11:05 ... Dec 1 2005, 01:55 AM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(one_and_only @ Dec 1 2005, 1:55 AM)well... Dec 1 2005, 09:47 AM kayemo QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Dec 1 2005, 8:47 AM)... Dec 1 2005, 06:42 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(kayemo @ Dec 1 2005, 6:42 PM)You forget... Dec 1 2005, 10:42 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(one_and_only @ Dec 1 2005, 1:55 AM)well... Dec 1 2005, 06:35 PM disco infiltrator But it includes the idea of God, saying our nation... Nov 21 2005, 01:19 AM waccoon http://atheism.about.com/od/churchstatemyt...ledge... Nov 21 2005, 01:38 AM disco infiltrator I know that's why it was originally put in, bu... Nov 21 2005, 01:46 AM mipadi QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Nov 21 2005, 1:46 A... Nov 21 2005, 01:58 AM verlorenrivets McCarthy is awesome! We should all practice Mc... Nov 21 2005, 01:49 AM disco infiltrator Right, of course, because why would we want to enc... Nov 21 2005, 09:43 AM teeblue That phrase has history to it. The phrase "un... Dec 1 2005, 02:08 AM mipadi QUOTE(teeblue @ Dec 1 2005, 2:08 AM)That phra... Dec 1 2005, 02:24 AM blackxpearl I don't know if I acctually have the right to ... Dec 1 2005, 07:05 PM disco infiltrator And uh...just because the founding fathers believe... Dec 1 2005, 07:29 PM Teesa Hmm, they say the pledge every morning at our scho... Dec 1 2005, 07:35 PM fisher0fman This country was founded on God..let's keep it... Dec 6 2005, 05:02 PM mipadi QUOTE(fisher0fman @ Dec 6 2005, 5:02 PM)This ... Dec 6 2005, 05:22 PM disco infiltrator QUOTE(fisher0fman @ Dec 6 2005, 5:02 PM)This ... Dec 11 2005, 01:55 AM Spirited Away I seriously think people should be warned or given... Dec 6 2005, 09:14 PM anoniez I personally don't think it should be taken ou... Dec 11 2005, 06:29 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(anoniez @ Dec 11 2005, 6:29 PM)on the o... Dec 11 2005, 09:22 PM anoniez QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Dec 11 2005, 8:22 PM... Dec 11 2005, 10:36 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(anoniez @ Dec 11 2005, 10:36 PM)I read ... Dec 12 2005, 05:14 AM anoniez QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Dec 12 2005, 4:14 AM... Dec 12 2005, 03:06 PM insomniac QUOTE(acidbathslayer)I think you are getting reall... Dec 11 2005, 09:51 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(insomniac @ Dec 11 2005, 9:51 PM)QUOTE(... Dec 11 2005, 10:15 PM |
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