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what to do when mods commit offenses.
*not_your_average*
post Nov 6 2005, 01:34 PM
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If a mod ever commits an offense, how should it be handled? Should we treat the offense as we would any other? Or should we give a harder/easier punishment? I've seen mods break rules before, and nothing happens to them simply becasue they are mods. I feel taht we should be objective when it comes to enforcing the rules, and that we should treat a mod the same way we would treat any other member.
 
 
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*tweeak*
post Nov 6 2005, 03:35 PM
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Now, I consider myself to be a pretty good mod. And yes, I fully hold myself to the standards of other members. Hovever, I am generally more lenient on spam conversations than most others. Why? Because I understand that it is not always possible to communicate with other members off the boards themselves. I don't have AIM, or any other messanger for that matter, so that's infuriating. Most people get to know each other that way, and I'm fairly isolated. Thus, if I want to be included in anything, I have to talk through the boards. And also, as convenient as PMs are, they're really not the best method. For one, you can only have 2 way conversations. If I'm talking to, say, Shauna and Justin, it does me no good to be told to use PMs or AIM, because for a 3-way conversation, neither of those methods is going to work for me. I don't care about my post count- it would be about as high even if I didn't have the occasional spam fest (which are few and far between, by the way). While I don't expect people to fully ignore the fact that James and I occasionally converse, I think it should also be understood that we have a history and extroridnary circumstances. But I'm not going to suspend members for something I do- yes, that would be hypocrisy. Steven doesn't count. Steven is an ctual blatant spammer. He and his posse got IP banned for real spamming, and now that he's back, he has yet to make any posts that aren't spam. Yes, there is a difference! If spam chats become aneveryday occurance, yes, problem. But for the occasional one, I see it as no big deal, honestly. How do you intend to build a community if we can't talk to one another? Whatever happened to the fun cb? I'm one of the oldest mods here at this point, and very rarely has my judgement been questioned. If someone wants to demod me for talking to my best friend, that's bullshit. This is becoming ridiculously rule-oriented.

Oh, and also, I certainly am not more lenient on older, more established members. When I see newbies spamming, I try to give them a chance to redeem themselves, because how is cb ever going to survive if we drive away every new member? If they repeatedly ignore me, they will be punished accordingly. Just like everyone else.
 
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post Nov 6 2005, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(tweeak @ Nov 6 2005, 3:35 PM)
While I don't expect people to fully ignore the fact that James and I occasionally converse, I think it should also be understood that we have a history and extroridnary circumstances.
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This almost exactly highlights my point--you're making a special acception to the rules for certain members. What if every member felt they deserved an exception and should be able to go into off-topic discussion whenever they pleased? Where do we draw the line? Where do we say that it's okay in one instance to spam, but not okay in another instance?
 

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not_your_average   what to do when mods commit offenses.   Nov 6 2005, 01:34 PM
not_your_average   Well, since we know the mods should have the same ...   Nov 6 2005, 02:02 PM
mipadi   I think the rules should apply the same way, with ...   Nov 6 2005, 02:21 PM
mipadi   There are several admins, so the other ones could ...   Nov 6 2005, 02:27 PM
mipadi   Two admins...does that include micron? I mean, he ...   Nov 6 2005, 02:32 PM
jooleeah   ^ He's not an admin. Only an advisor. I'm ...   Nov 6 2005, 02:34 PM
mipadi   Well, we're arguing semantics. Generally speak...   Nov 6 2005, 02:39 PM
racoons > you   well, the onus is really on the other moderators. ...   Nov 6 2005, 02:49 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(racoons > you @ Nov 6 2005, 2:49 PM)...   Nov 6 2005, 02:56 PM
racoons > you   that would be my major example, yes, but it has al...   Nov 6 2005, 03:04 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(racoons > you @ Nov 6 2005, 3:04 PM)...   Nov 6 2005, 03:13 PM
mzkandi   QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 6 2005, 4:13 PM)I don...   Nov 6 2005, 06:05 PM
racoons > you   i dont mind you using me as an example, its a good...   Nov 6 2005, 03:21 PM
tweeak   Now, I consider myself to be a pretty good mod. An...   Nov 6 2005, 03:35 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(tweeak @ Nov 6 2005, 3:35 PM)While I do...   Nov 6 2005, 07:08 PM
racoons > you   ^ i love you. i also feel like having a spam cha...   Nov 6 2005, 03:37 PM
not_your_average   Well, Nicki, why can't you install an instant ...   Nov 6 2005, 03:52 PM
tweeak   Do you really think I'm stupid enough to use t...   Nov 6 2005, 03:58 PM
racoons > you   nicki cant because her rents wont allow it. and i...   Nov 6 2005, 03:58 PM
incoherent   like nicki said, little spam fests are nothing. pe...   Nov 6 2005, 04:00 PM
racoons > you   i would SO be on a police force! anyway.   Nov 6 2005, 04:00 PM
incoherent   james, you would SO be hated by most. actually, i...   Nov 6 2005, 04:03 PM
tweeak   No one likes a tattle tail. We can't really ...   Nov 6 2005, 04:11 PM
incoherent   i say we drop it and keep things as they are. no o...   Nov 6 2005, 04:14 PM
[pshaa]shauna   Honestly, if people keep complaining about it, may...   Nov 6 2005, 04:18 PM
incoherent   ^ whats the point in turning the post count off if...   Nov 6 2005, 04:23 PM
racoons > you   ^ oh.. we TRIED teh spamming where it didnt affec...   Nov 6 2005, 04:24 PM
[pshaa]shauna   ^ Well that's just plain stupid. Spam should b...   Nov 6 2005, 04:24 PM
racoons > you   i know what you meant, but there is no way to make...   Nov 6 2005, 04:25 PM
[pshaa]shauna   But forum games doesnt affect post count, I've...   Nov 6 2005, 04:26 PM
incoherent   someone said it effected ppd, but i dont think it ...   Nov 6 2005, 04:27 PM
racoons > you   it doesnt affect POST COUNT it does affect POST P...   Nov 6 2005, 04:27 PM
[pshaa]shauna   Well how on earth does that work? That's actua...   Nov 6 2005, 04:28 PM
tweeak   ^I agree No, that's what he's saying- it ...   Nov 6 2005, 04:29 PM
incoherent   well on my forum, if someone joins the first day a...   Nov 6 2005, 04:30 PM
tweeak   But honestly, not too many people have conversatio...   Nov 6 2005, 04:33 PM
incoherent   thats true. i think this has accomplished nothing ...   Nov 6 2005, 04:34 PM
[pshaa]shauna   ^ x2 Really. Most people who actually care about t...   Nov 6 2005, 04:34 PM
racoons > you   i dont think anyone actually does, even including ...   Nov 6 2005, 04:35 PM
incoherent   ^x2 what shes saying, is people that usually have ...   Nov 6 2005, 04:35 PM
tweeak   Steven is a spiteful spammer. Period. Well, where...   Nov 6 2005, 04:40 PM
incoherent   alright, so well just end this now. a mod cannot p...   Nov 6 2005, 04:42 PM
racoons > you   QUOTEWell, where did she really intend for this to...   Nov 6 2005, 06:07 PM
mzkandi   ^ So there, what?   Nov 6 2005, 06:09 PM
racoons > you   just... so there. meaning i disagree. and i hav...   Nov 6 2005, 06:15 PM
not_your_average   I'm sorry if you feel that way, Nicki. I never...   Nov 6 2005, 06:15 PM
racoons > you   i promise, neither nicki or i take offense we jus...   Nov 6 2005, 06:16 PM
incoherent   okay, now that this is reopened, not_your_average,...   Nov 6 2005, 06:17 PM
racoons > you   than it has changed since we had that orgy (long s...   Nov 6 2005, 06:19 PM
mona lisa   I have in fact seen members' profile pages and...   Nov 6 2005, 06:26 PM
disco infiltrator   I thought it did. People said it did...I had no r...   Nov 6 2005, 06:26 PM
racoons > you   see? im not insane.   Nov 6 2005, 06:26 PM
incoherent   i believe it does increase your ppd...but like i s...   Nov 6 2005, 06:28 PM
racoons > you   thats just so unlikely... you wouldnt actually not...   Nov 6 2005, 06:30 PM
incoherent   alright, so i guess since this isnt getting anywhe...   Nov 6 2005, 06:37 PM
mona lisa   How many times did you post and in which forum(s)?   Nov 6 2005, 06:37 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(racoons > you @ Nov 6 2005, 6:19 PM)...   Nov 6 2005, 06:54 PM
racoons > you   i enjoy the fact that nicki and my motions and rea...   Nov 6 2005, 07:00 PM
tweeak   God, that was a distressing sentence Jicky? (you...   Nov 6 2005, 07:04 PM
racoons > you   i've been working on a drama project for over ...   Nov 6 2005, 07:08 PM
incoherent   nicki...my post per day is always changing no matt...   Nov 6 2005, 07:10 PM
tweeak   I'm not saying it's okay, but again, I don...   Nov 6 2005, 07:12 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(tweeak @ Nov 6 2005, 7:12 PM)But when t...   Nov 6 2005, 07:14 PM
tweeak   I try to give more than one verbal warning, though...   Nov 6 2005, 07:15 PM
mzkandi   Well I will say you can count on me not to be bias...   Nov 6 2005, 07:15 PM
incoherent   QUOTE(mzkandi @ Nov 6 2005, 6:15 PM)Well I wi...   Nov 6 2005, 07:18 PM
racoons > you   generally, nicki and i do stop when we are told......   Nov 6 2005, 07:17 PM
not_your_average   Well, Spencer, I just wanted to make by-laws for h...   Nov 6 2005, 07:17 PM
tweeak   James makes a good point. We do stop when we'r...   Nov 6 2005, 07:25 PM
racoons > you   it would be fun to bludgeon people...   Nov 6 2005, 07:30 PM
tweeak   And again, it's fully not hypicrisy to tell St...   Nov 6 2005, 07:32 PM
incoherent   ^ thats the point of the ip thread...   Nov 6 2005, 07:33 PM
tweeak   I know it is. But we've touched so many points...   Nov 6 2005, 07:34 PM
Heathasm   well a mod shouldnt be able to take their warning ...   Nov 6 2005, 07:35 PM
racoons > you   ^ i think that goes beyond saying. and yes, spen...   Nov 6 2005, 07:36 PM
incoherent   ^x2 sounds good to me. we should vote on it. jame...   Nov 6 2005, 07:36 PM
racoons > you   vote on what? i hav elosttrack of things. GOD IM T...   Nov 6 2005, 07:37 PM
tweeak   Nay?   Nov 6 2005, 07:41 PM
Heathasm   well . . . when official members get a warning the...   Nov 6 2005, 07:54 PM
racoons > you   wait. so we are voting to decide that if a mod is ...   Nov 6 2005, 07:56 PM
tweeak   Oh, well then I don't see how that requires vo...   Nov 6 2005, 07:59 PM
Heathasm   yeah i was thinking the same thing nicki lol but ...   Nov 6 2005, 08:01 PM
racoons > you   i miss jordan. he was always good for an orgy. AN...   Nov 6 2005, 08:02 PM
incoherent   aye   Nov 7 2005, 04:13 PM
disco infiltrator   Aye.   Nov 7 2005, 06:03 PM
mzkandi   Aye   Nov 7 2005, 06:04 PM
mipadi   Aye   Nov 7 2005, 06:18 PM
[pshaa]shauna   Aye. (even though I don't count)   Nov 7 2005, 07:02 PM
mzkandi   ^ If you arent on the committee you cant vote. So...   Nov 7 2005, 07:03 PM
Rachel is love   (off topic, I wish I had moddy powers :[) Just a...   Nov 8 2005, 09:34 PM
disco infiltrator   Yes, if they prove themself worthy of redemption, ...   Nov 8 2005, 09:59 PM
sadolakced acid   about the whole conversations in threads. isn...   Nov 8 2005, 11:43 PM
mona lisa   ^Are you talking about that game you created? Just...   Nov 8 2005, 11:47 PM
sadolakced acid   well, the game is supposed to be a compromise. it...   Nov 8 2005, 11:50 PM
mona lisa   I think I see what you mean...well, my interpretat...   Nov 8 2005, 11:55 PM
racoons > you   ooh... an offcial conversation thread? i LIKE it   Nov 9 2005, 07:23 AM
disco infiltrator   I never liked off-topic threads (on other forums) ...   Nov 9 2005, 04:35 PM
mipadi   I don't really see the point of a conversation...   Nov 9 2005, 04:44 PM
drilotedahl   aye   Nov 9 2005, 07:17 PM
mzkandi   ^You cant vote if you arent a committee member.   Nov 9 2005, 07:22 PM
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