American Constitution, Was it twisted? Options

[murderous_though...]

The American Constitution, ratified in the 1780s, is a set of laws that make sure the people have certain rights and protections. The first ammendment, part of which includes the freedom of religion has been twisted into a supression of religion. It says that the government will not establish any specific religion, meaning nationally. It also encompasses the fact that the government will not punish someone because of their religion, but certain people have twisted it into now we cant even speak about religion in schools or government buildings...do you think this is right? or should we be able to talk about God (whoever yours may be) and Christmas instead of X-mas?

[sikdragon]

Evolution is a scientific theory and doesn't have any part in religion, nor is it connected to any religious belief. Therefore, you learn it in science class, because it is science.

The theory of evolution isn't learned so that we know history, it is learned so that we may better understand the scientific method of explaining things.

Because then it seems as if they are living in a Christian country where they must be Christian. This is not a Christian country. This is a country with freedom of religion. If the Ten Commandments is posted all over government buildings, does it not make it seem like Christianity is the only way for Americans? That's how it comes off to me.

Well, if christianity was understood it shouldnt offend you. Christianity in truth teaches acceptance of all, not just all Christians. To live in a Christian country would be great for anyone. There would be safety, unlocked doors, concern and love for your fellow man. Religion is the only fault i find with Christianity. In the name of religion, there've been men throughout the ages claiming their own justice in the name of God(whichever name they so chose). The ten commandments aren't a threat to anyone, they're a more in depth version of the hammurabi code and other similar writings. It's a historical document. History is neither helped, hindered, or mentioned in the constitution and should therefore be allowed to be posted on any wall, until the day when it's ammended.

How would you feel that instead of posting the Ten Commandments, we posted passages from the Torah? Or maybe, atheist reasonings outside government facilities?

And, as a matter of fact, our country was not founded by Christians. They went away from England to get away from religious persectuion. They were Deists, meaning they believed in a higher power, but not Christians.

The ten commandments are in the Torah. The founders of America were mostly Christians, with very few exceptions. There is no evidence to support your wild claims. Benjamin Franklin was the oldest at the ratification of the Constitution. That 31 year old man saw the quarreling and suggested they pray. All of them prayed and a few days later the constitution was ratified.

But it can certainly appear to non-Christians that the government is advocating a particular religion, which is disrespecting the beliefs of our Founding Fathers as well.

I ask: why is it so important that the Ten Commandments be placed in a courthouse? Christians have plenty of places to worship, in public and in private. They are hardly a persecuted group of people in America. Is there a need for Christian symbols to be everywhere?

The ten commandments is a historical look at law. The courthouse deciphers the intent of the law.

Aw..thanks. Heh.

Hmm, I don't know about you, but I don't think Christians are the only ones not beating their kids.....or the ones who changed this. At all. Just..a point.

Anyway. If anything, I think the constitution is being twisted TOWARDS the Christian right. How is it against Christianity or limiting Christianity at all? I go to school and even my teachers are giving me Christian influences. In my French class, we have every sort of debate possible, even on religion. In Biology last year, we had a Creationism vs. Evolution debate and trust me - there were some people who were definitely trying to fit their evangelism in there. (Also some people who thought they were such good Bible-reading Christians, trying to tell our Bio teacher about Noah's Ark, in turn causing him to whip out a Bible and correct every little detail about their little story. It was really funny. For example, the kids all said the ark was supposed to fit 700 animals, though the Bible said 40. So how is evolution disproved if we have sooo many more then 40 different kinds of animals? Humdeedum..) So, I really don't see how Christianity is trying to be pulled out based on the Constitution.

The ACLU and other groups are attacking Christian rights.

The bible did not say 40 kinds. It says clean animals were to be taken by seven's, unclean animals by two's, and fowls of the air by seven's.

Another point, Evangelism isn't wrong. Bible thumping is and there is a huge difference.

I dont know how the debate got shifted to the 10 Commandments...they were around for over 2000 years before Christianity originated. Christianity started (obviously) with Christ, and it was Moses who got the 10 Commandments from God...ya know, when they left Egypt and wandered in the desert for 40 years? Yeah, waaayyyy before Christ was even born. To be more accurate, the 10 Commandments would be based more in the Jewish religion, who don't even believe that Jesus Christ was the Messiah. The 10 Commandments don't really have that much to do with Christianity itself. When they were made, kids could be stoned to DEATH for disrespecting their parents...Christianity changed that.

That is pretty good; however, the stoning of children for such menial charges is a gross misinterpretation of the Torah, and can be blamed on the religious leaders of the time.

The American Constitution, ratified in the 1780s, is a set of laws that make sure the people have certain rights and protections. The first ammendment, part of which includes the freedom of religion has been twisted into a supression of religion. It says that the government will not establish any specific religion, meaning nationally. It also encompasses the fact that the government will not punish someone because of their religion, but certain people have twisted it into now we cant even speak about religion in schools or government buildings...do you think this is right? or should we be able to talk about God (whoever yours may be) and Christmas instead of X-mas?

I believe the thinking currently being used today in the assassination of Christianity is contradictory. Tolerance, is what they preach. Yet, they do not tolerate those that preach love. The cause of this is the worship of man's agenda. The only stick in the mud is the loving community of Christ's followers, because of their morality. Morals are the enemy in their eyes. A christian will call clean, clean and unclean, unclean. The attackers would and do call everything slightly soiled. These beliefs combat because of the Christian's inability to tolerate the evil acts of men. Therefore, they are called haters of the cause. The Christian's beliefs aren't under fire, it's the Christian existance. Sounds kind of like the middle east and Israel, doesn't it?