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Why Women Need Freedom From Religion
latinprep12
post Sep 7 2005, 03:11 PM
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I was bored and looked up some stuff and well read it and tell me what you think


http://www.ffrf.org/nontracts/women.html

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Organized religion always has been and remains the greatest enemy of women's rights. In the Christian-dominated Western world, two bible verses in particular sum up the position of women:

"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."--Genesis 3:16

By this third chapter of Genesis, woman lost her rights, her standing--even her identity, and motherhood became a God-inflicted curse degrading her status in the world.

In the New Testament, the bible decrees:

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."--1 Tim. 2:11-14

One bible verse alone, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18) is responsible for the death of tens of thousands, if not millions, of women. Do women and those who care about them need further evidence of the great harm of Christianity, predicated as it has been on these and similar teachings about women?

Church writer Tertullian said "each of you women is an Eve . . . You are the gate of Hell, you are the temptress of the forbidden tree; you are the first deserter of the divine law."

Martin Luther decreed: "If a woman grows weary and at last dies from childbearing, it matters not. Let her die from bearing, she is there to do it."
 
 
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sovietski
post Oct 15 2005, 05:12 PM
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You are simply saying propaganda....you chose to use the bible to point out these "supposably" anti-women places. Have you ever even tried to look for the places that support women? Allow me to enlighten you.

"Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God." 1Chorintians 11:11-12

PR 31:30 "Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised"

MT 26:10 "When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me."

MT 26:13 "Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her."

EPH 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;"

EPH 5:28 "So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself."

COL 3:19 "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them"

I could keep going...but why need I? As you have seen here, being a women in Christianity does not make you "nothing", as a matter of fact a women that fulfill's the word of the Lord shall be praised and be glorified. Wives must submit to there husbands, this is the truth. For women and men are different. And this is for different purposes. But I want to tell you, that if you do not belive in "Christianity", why would you even ask these questions because no matter what, you wont belive. And if you believe somewhat, I tell you this....we cannot play God. And we do not challenge what God has made. For it is God's will for things to be the way he said for them to be, and who are we to differ?

There is one thing that holds true, that God wants to test a humans faith in him. There are reasons that women have certain burdens to carry, because those who are fake will never be able to fulfill them, and only a women who truly loves God will have the faith to do his will. One she does it, she will reveal the glory of God. How much are you willing to put aside what you think you know for happiness?
 

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latinprep12   Why Women Need Freedom From Religion   Sep 7 2005, 03:11 PM
ermfermoo   Thats not much of an argument. If women believe i...   Sep 7 2005, 03:14 PM
ComradeRed   I agree. If women act submissively because they th...   Sep 7 2005, 11:50 PM
Gypsy Eyes   So what exactly is the debate here? Ok so women we...   Sep 9 2005, 03:54 PM
Olive   QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Sep 10 2005, 6:54 AM)So wh...   Oct 14 2005, 04:02 AM
Rachel is love   QUOTE(Olive @ Oct 14 2005, 3:02 AM)Some relig...   Oct 14 2005, 03:30 PM
Olive   QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Oct 15 2005, 6:30 AM)T...   Oct 15 2005, 05:31 AM
Programmer   ^ she's gotta point... i agree with her   Sep 9 2005, 04:02 PM
Rikkiismyname   OK well I'm.... i guess I would call myself a ...   Sep 14 2005, 11:28 PM
Blackhorn   Womens rights have been supressed since the begini...   Oct 7 2005, 07:44 PM
ermfermoo   QUOTE(Blackhorn @ Oct 7 2005, 7:44 PM)Womens ...   Oct 16 2005, 06:39 PM
SkaironFrenzy   Them liberals are trying so hard now-a-days. I...   Oct 9 2005, 09:27 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(SkaironFrenzy @ Oct 9 2005, 8:27 PM)The...   Oct 11 2005, 07:26 PM
sadolakced acid   eve was decieved by a serpent. adam was asked by ...   Oct 11 2005, 07:53 PM
Justingamemaster   Don't women already have freedom of religion i...   Oct 13 2005, 11:22 PM
sovietski   You are simply saying propaganda....you chose to u...   Oct 15 2005, 05:12 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ so god is giving women props for being dutiful ...   Oct 15 2005, 09:30 PM
sovietski   Little did you know, being a duitiful wife to your...   Oct 16 2005, 02:16 PM
sadolakced acid   hahahaa... nice. you know how they say converts ...   Oct 16 2005, 04:42 PM
sovietski   I don't understand what you are saying...and w...   Oct 16 2005, 06:27 PM


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