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I was bored and looked up some stuff and well read it and tell me what you think
http://www.ffrf.org/nontracts/women.html QUOTE Organized religion always has been and remains the greatest enemy of women's rights. In the Christian-dominated Western world, two bible verses in particular sum up the position of women:
"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."--Genesis 3:16 By this third chapter of Genesis, woman lost her rights, her standing--even her identity, and motherhood became a God-inflicted curse degrading her status in the world. In the New Testament, the bible decrees: "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."--1 Tim. 2:11-14 One bible verse alone, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18) is responsible for the death of tens of thousands, if not millions, of women. Do women and those who care about them need further evidence of the great harm of Christianity, predicated as it has been on these and similar teachings about women? Church writer Tertullian said "each of you women is an Eve . . . You are the gate of Hell, you are the temptress of the forbidden tree; you are the first deserter of the divine law." Martin Luther decreed: "If a woman grows weary and at last dies from childbearing, it matters not. Let her die from bearing, she is there to do it." |
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So what exactly is the debate here? Ok so women were expected to be submissive and silent. That is just the way that things were run when those were written. It's not like that anymore now, or not nearly as bad. It's not like anyone can go back and change anything.
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QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Sep 10 2005, 6:54 AM) So what exactly is the debate here? Ok so women were expected to be submissive and silent. That is just the way that things were run when those were written. It's not like that anymore now, or not nearly as bad. It's not like anyone can go back and change anything. Some religions still run on the influence of men, and women are perceived to be of much less or no authority. In the Jewish tradition, I believe women are not allowed to participate in religious services in the synagogue and are locked up away from the view of men because they are a "distraction"(?) But I guess if no one's complaining, neither should I, Im not Jewish. |
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QUOTE(Olive @ Oct 14 2005, 3:02 AM) Some religions still run on the influence of men, and women are perceived to be of much less or no authority. In the Jewish tradition, I believe women are not allowed to participate in religious services in the synagogue and are locked up away from the view of men because they are a "distraction"(?) But I guess if no one's complaining, neither should I, Im not Jewish. They aren't "locked up". In Orthodox temples, the men and the women are seperated, and at the Western Wall in Isreal, they are seperated but nowhere are women locked up. I happen to be Jewish and I am not sure if the reason is because of distraction. I think it is just the way things were back then. |
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QUOTE(Rachel is love @ Oct 15 2005, 6:30 AM) They aren't "locked up". In Orthodox temples, the men and the women are seperated, and at the Western Wall in Isreal, they are seperated but nowhere are women locked up. I happen to be Jewish and I am not sure if the reason is because of distraction. I think it is just the way things were back then. I wasn't quite sure, thus the (?) question mark. Don't take offence. I am studying my final year of Studies in Religion with one topic focusing on Judaism. In the documentary we watched it did look as though they were locked in barred doors until the end of the service. Seperated, definately. A Jewish guest speaker told us the purpose was traditionally because of distraction. But isn't the fact that they are not allowed to participate a fair bit sexist on the female role? Or is this aspect of the practice disregarded because of tradition? |
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