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sadolakced acid
post Oct 13 2005, 12:27 PM
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we probbaly need a bylaw about warnings and bannings, and the protocol for it.

we'd want to leave flexibility in the text tho.
 
 
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racoons > you
post Oct 13 2005, 06:43 PM
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indeed

also, i've said this before, mods, PLEASE BE CLEAR WHEN GIViNG VERBAL WARNINGS.

by this i mean state specificly who the warning applies to. if ther eis a sort of group spamming goin gon, but some people ar ea tth efringe and dont relally deserve the warning, say 'X Y and Z, you have been given a verbal warning for spamming' as opposed to 'This is your verbal warning for spamming'. dont leave room for ambiguity. firstly, its unfair to the members, and secondly, if provides you with a hole lot of crap if people complain that they weren't aware of the warnig, blah blah blah

Also, as there is the thread backstage for verbally warned members, if all staff post the date when they gave the verbal warning, as well as just the name, and then set a sort of expiration date for the warning (a week or whatever), then it will prevent the possibility of someone being lef ton the list for a verbal warning they got two moths ago, and then being officially warned without merit
 
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Oct 13 2005, 7:43 PM)
Also, as there is the thread backstage for verbally warned members, if all staff post the date when they gave the verbal warning, as well as just the name, and then set a sort of expiration date for the warning (a week or whatever), then it will prevent the possibility of someone being lef ton the list for a verbal warning they got two moths ago, and then being officially warned without merit
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We can't have an expiration date for a warning. Heck, members' names who were warned at the time the thread was made are still there. The so called expiration date varies. If the person continues to spam, member bash whatever, why should we take their warning off? Because even though they're not following rules, a certain amount of time has passed? I think not...

Oh, and in case you didn't see, click the 0% under your name. ;) I remember you were wondering how it went down.
 
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post Oct 14 2005, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Oct 14 2005, 2:52 AM)
We can't have an expiration date for a warning. Heck, members' names who were warned at the time the thread was made are still there. The so called expiration date varies. If the person continues to spam, member bash whatever, why should we take their warning off? Because even though they're not following rules, a certain amount of time has passed? I think not...

Oh, and in case you didn't see, click the 0% under your name. ;) I remember you were wondering how it went down.
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if the person continues to spam or whatever when they are already on the verbal warning list, then a mod should take the next strep and warn them. if after a week this action hasnt been necessary, then the member shoul dbe atken of the VERBAL warn list.

i wasnt talking about removing actual official warnings after a week, if there was an issue of clarity

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Why must there be laws about warning? huh.gif

Mods are hired because they are thought to have good judgement on things like that. It's for our judgement based on each situation. If someone has a problem with the judgement of a particular mod, they can PM Jusun, an admin, or a head staff.

Problem solved.


sammi, the point of the bylaws is to establish a protocol so that there is no ambiguity. it is all well and good for mods to use their judgement, but individual mods WILL have different degrees of severity.

if we have a protocol, it goes towards making this less of an issue

PLEASE dont waste everyones time with saying 'the mods can do it', as it basically just negative, and undermining the whole process. if you feel that this isnt worth while, step down from the committee and let a stff member who wants to get on with things have your place

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sadolakced acid   Warnings and bannings   Oct 13 2005, 12:27 PM
incoherent   warnings: 2 or more wrong doings in one day. dont ...   Oct 13 2005, 02:56 PM
mzkandi   ^ I think you mean suspension, not banning.   Oct 13 2005, 03:00 PM
incoherent   ^ same thing i got a little carried away. well ba...   Oct 13 2005, 03:02 PM
mzkandi   banning = your a-s-s aint to coming cb anymore sus...   Oct 13 2005, 03:12 PM
incoherent   yeah, i stated that in my last post.   Oct 13 2005, 03:19 PM
mzkandi   Well make it more clear   Oct 13 2005, 03:20 PM
incoherent   alright, were fighting about something stupid. som...   Oct 13 2005, 03:22 PM
mzkandi   Who's fighting? I'm just letting you know....   Oct 13 2005, 03:23 PM
incoherent   alright its over. ive stated my point. it just see...   Oct 13 2005, 03:25 PM
mzkandi   Thanks for clearing that up.   Oct 13 2005, 03:27 PM
incoherent   youre welcome   Oct 13 2005, 03:29 PM
sadolakced acid   i'm not sure i like the mods being lenient, be...   Oct 13 2005, 06:24 PM
racoons > you   ^ indeed also, i've said this before, mods, ...   Oct 13 2005, 06:43 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(racoons > you @ Oct 13 2005, 7:43 PM...   Oct 13 2005, 08:52 PM
racoons > you   QUOTE(mona lisa @ Oct 14 2005, 2:52 AM)We can...   Oct 14 2005, 07:42 AM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(racoons > you @ Oct 14 2005, 7:42 AM...   Oct 15 2005, 12:10 AM
brownsugar08   About the 2 or more things wrong in a day thing.. ...   Oct 13 2005, 08:52 PM
sadolakced acid   well i read the guidelines. (which does bring me ...   Oct 13 2005, 09:50 PM
KissMe2408   Well, the only time i would be really "flexib...   Oct 13 2005, 10:08 PM
incoherent   is there anyway to make it so that the only thing ...   Oct 13 2005, 10:25 PM
KissMe2408   ^true, people do make mistakes, i mean there are s...   Oct 13 2005, 10:56 PM
disco infiltrator   Why must there be laws about warning? Mods are h...   Oct 14 2005, 12:16 AM
mzkandi   ^ Exactly.   Oct 14 2005, 12:17 AM
tweeak   What we absolutely cannot have is a system where y...   Oct 14 2005, 02:36 PM
incoherent   ^ lol. nice nicki. QUOTEis there anyway to make i...   Oct 14 2005, 02:47 PM
Heathasm   i dont like the flexibility either. verbal warning...   Oct 14 2005, 04:00 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTEPLEASE dont waste everyones time with saying ...   Oct 14 2005, 07:48 PM
Spirited Away   There shouldn't be any protocol to verbal warn...   Oct 15 2005, 12:01 AM
sadolakced acid   by-laws, not laws. so, something like: members s...   Oct 15 2005, 12:18 AM
disco infiltrator   Yes, but we're discussing whether warnings sho...   Oct 15 2005, 12:20 AM
sadolakced acid   well, i think the point of verbal warning should b...   Oct 15 2005, 12:21 AM
disco infiltrator   Well, really, there is. If the person continues to...   Oct 15 2005, 12:25 AM
sadolakced acid   there are what, 14 rules or so as of now. so some...   Oct 15 2005, 12:41 AM
disco infiltrator   Racking up every single verbal warning possible is...   Oct 15 2005, 12:42 AM
sadolakced acid   or just not reading them. some flexibility must ...   Oct 15 2005, 12:44 AM
disco infiltrator   Which is why there are verbal warnings for first-t...   Oct 15 2005, 12:46 AM
sadolakced acid   ok. errr. as far as the by-laws, i think we shou...   Oct 15 2005, 12:49 AM
disco infiltrator   I agree that it should be officially posted, but I...   Oct 15 2005, 01:00 AM
racoons > you   well, if mod spost when they give a verbal warning...   Oct 16 2005, 07:32 AM
disco infiltrator   Why after a week? If they ever do it again, they ...   Oct 16 2005, 08:18 AM
racoons > you   *shrugs* it doesnt have to be a week, i just thre...   Oct 16 2005, 08:30 AM
disco infiltrator   Well then, without that week thing, that's exa...   Oct 16 2005, 08:33 AM
racoons > you   well then, if you do it that way, it's wonderf...   Oct 16 2005, 08:50 AM
Heathasm   QUOTEIf they ever do it again, they get warned per...   Oct 16 2005, 09:02 AM
racoons > you   ^ exactly. and if the exact dates are recorded, ...   Oct 16 2005, 09:05 AM
Heathasm   yeah...it shouldnt maybe after two weeks   Oct 16 2005, 09:11 AM
racoons > you   two weeks sounds good to me   Oct 16 2005, 10:22 AM
brownsugar08   ...but there's a thread backstage that has all...   Oct 16 2005, 12:02 PM
Heathasm   QUOTE(brownsugar08 @ Oct 16 2005, 12:02 PM).....   Oct 16 2005, 12:07 PM
brownsugar08   Oh. Sounds like a good idea to me. [The two wee...   Oct 16 2005, 12:10 PM
racoons > you   ^ yes, but the point im trying to make is there o...   Oct 16 2005, 12:32 PM
sadolakced acid   how about the warning mod sets the time, with a mi...   Oct 16 2005, 04:12 PM
mzkandi   ^ I think that would be good.   Oct 16 2005, 04:16 PM
disco infiltrator   RE: Warnings and bannings   Oct 16 2005, 11:32 PM
racoons > you   i'll agree with that   Oct 17 2005, 05:23 PM
incoherent   agreed   Oct 17 2005, 06:02 PM
KissMe2408   awesome idea   Oct 18 2005, 11:07 PM
racoons > you   5 ayes, 0 nays for justin's idea about specifi...   Oct 19 2005, 06:25 AM
not_your_average   Wait, quick question: Warnings are PMed to the off...   Oct 21 2005, 06:52 PM
incoherent   yeah. the system i believe is set up so that when ...   Oct 21 2005, 11:04 PM
Heathasm   well verbal warnings arent PMed to the person   Oct 21 2005, 11:06 PM
incoherent   QUOTE(Heathasm @ Oct 21 2005, 11:06 PM)well v...   Oct 21 2005, 11:07 PM
sadolakced acid   i think verbal warnings should be PMed and posted,...   Oct 22 2005, 10:45 AM
KissMe2408   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Oct 22 2005, 10:45 AM...   Oct 22 2005, 01:44 PM
racoons > you   i whole heartedly agree. if a mod gives a verbal ...   Oct 23 2005, 05:14 AM
Heathasm   yeah deffinately i alawys though verbal warnings s...   Oct 23 2005, 05:43 AM
racoons > you   indeed. ok. lets formalize all in favor of mods s...   Oct 23 2005, 05:47 AM
Heathasm   aye!   Oct 23 2005, 05:59 AM
disco infiltrator   Aye.   Oct 23 2005, 08:39 AM
racoons > you   bumped   Oct 23 2005, 02:42 PM
mzkandi   aye We're suppose to that anyways though.....   Oct 23 2005, 02:44 PM
racoons > you   yeah, but this formalizes it, and gets it set in s...   Oct 23 2005, 02:49 PM
tweeak   I want to say nay, but I can't think of a dece...   Oct 23 2005, 05:44 PM
racoons > you   surely part of 'being a good mod' is deali...   Oct 23 2005, 05:45 PM
incoherent   whoops...never voted. aye.   Oct 23 2005, 05:46 PM
racoons > you   oh. well then in that case nicki's vote is irr...   Oct 23 2005, 05:53 PM
incoherent   added to by-laws list hasnt everything thats been...   Oct 23 2005, 06:00 PM
Azarel   This thread has mostly (if not only) been about wa...   Oct 23 2005, 07:51 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Azarel @ Oct 23 2005, 8:51 PM)This thre...   Oct 23 2005, 08:09 PM
incoherent   im pretty sure this has been discussed, just in an...   Nov 19 2005, 03:56 PM


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