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Creating Your Child, how far is too far?
Heewee
post Sep 30 2005, 09:02 PM
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This is a topic that we have been recently discussing in my genetics class...


Recent technology has made it possible for those who can afford to do so to genetically select the gender of their baby:


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Many parents desperately wish for that little girl (or boy) they always dreamed of. Now that it is scientifically possible to “sort” the X and Y chromosomes in sperm, The Genetics and IVF Institute is giving parents the power to choose the sex of their next baby. An FDA clinical trial of a sperm-sorting technology called MicroSort can determine the sex, with an 88 percent success rate for females, and 73 percent success for males.

The technology was originally created by the Department of Agriculture to use with livestock. According to a Newsweek article, over 1300 couples have used Microsort’s services since it began its clinical trial in 1995. The process can cost at least $2,500 each attempt, but it varies widely depending on what process is used (IVF, IUI) to achieve the pregnancy.

The ability to choose a baby’s gender opens a big can of moral and ethical worms, says the Newsweek article. “If couples can request a baby boy or girl, what’s next on the slippery slope of modern reproductive medicine? Eye color? Height? Intelligence? Could picking one gender over the other become the 21st century’s form of sex discrimination?”


Genetics is such a fast-changing science that the above article, written just under a year ago, is already outdated. Picking eye color, height, inteligence, and many other traits are available to parents to can afford to do so. This includes, the ability to do away with life-threatening diseases or even simple nuisances, such as wearing glasses. However, should people that have will have perfectly fine babies otherwise be allowed to genetically alter the alleles of their future babies just to change the eye color or hair color? My question to you guys is do you think that this is morally right and what are you reasons for or against your argument?
 
 
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post Oct 1 2005, 07:01 PM
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wow...this is kinda funny because we were discussing this in lab biology and i was thinking about creating a topic on it.

and i think that it's immoral for many reasons. first off---it's unnatural. i think it's insane how you can distribute specific chromosomes (sp?) and decide whether you want your baby to be a boy or girl. there is always a risk of complications...AND you should love your baby no matter what sex it is.
 
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post Oct 1 2005, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(xcaitlinx @ Oct 1 2005, 5:01 PM)
wow...this is kinda funny because we were discussing this in lab biology and i was thinking about creating a topic on it.

and i think that it's immoral for many reasons. first off---it's unnatural. i think it's insane how you can distribute specific chromosomes (sp?) and decide whether you want your baby to be a boy or girl. there is always a risk of complications...AND you should love your baby no matter what sex it is.
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What exactly does naturality have to do with morals? The only thing people are changing are the physical features of people. I personally feel that it doesn't affect your morality.
 
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post Oct 1 2005, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Oct 1 2005, 9:32 PM)
What exactly does naturality have to do with morals? The only thing people are changing are the physical features of people. I personally feel that it doesn't affect your morality.
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I agree..

Naturality is different..

I wear makeup...and that's not natural..so, in your words, it's considered immoral...?
 
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post Oct 1 2005, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Oct 1 2005, 7:46 PM)
I agree..

Naturality is different..

I wear makeup...and that's not natural..so, in your words, it's considered immoral...?
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But you CHOOSE to wear makeup to change the way you look. The baby in question does not have the choice to choose whether or not they should be changed. The parents are deciding for them.
 
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post Oct 1 2005, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(yummy_delight @ Oct 1 2005, 8:00 PM)

But you CHOOSE to wear makeup to change the way you look. The baby in question does not have the choice to choose whether or not they should be changed. The parents are deciding for them.

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Umm.... the child is not being CHANGED... it's being CREATED a certain way.
 
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post Oct 3 2005, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Oct 1 2005, 11:05 PM)
Umm.... the child is not being CHANGED... it's being CREATED a certain way.
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It's manipulation. That is not synonomyous with creation.
 

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Heewee   Creating Your Child   Sep 30 2005, 09:02 PM
RiC3xBoy   Hmm...I actually find it hard to actually choose.....   Sep 30 2005, 09:25 PM
ermfermoo   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Sep 30 2005, 9:25 PM)Hmm...I...   Sep 30 2005, 09:29 PM
Heewee   QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 30 2005, 9:29 PM)Yes, t...   Sep 30 2005, 09:54 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(Heewee @ Sep 30 2005, 7:54 PM) You...   Sep 30 2005, 10:00 PM
Kristinaa   ...How is that not moral? They choose what they wa...   Sep 30 2005, 11:42 PM
PreludeTears   QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Sep 30 2005, 9:42 PM)...How...   Sep 30 2005, 11:59 PM
yummy_delight   Maybe it's because of my religious beliefs, bu...   Sep 30 2005, 11:49 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(yummy_delight @ Sep 30 2005, 11:49 PM)M...   Sep 30 2005, 11:57 PM
pandamonium   if we let this happen society will reach a perfect...   Sep 30 2005, 11:58 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Sep 30 2005, 11:58 PM)so ...   Oct 1 2005, 12:05 AM
yummy_delight   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Sep 30 2005, 9:58 PM)if w...   Oct 1 2005, 12:08 AM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(yummy_delight @ Oct 1 2005, 12:08 AM) O...   Oct 1 2005, 12:09 AM
ermfermoo   QUOTE(yummy_delight @ Sep 30 2005, 11:49 PM)M...   Oct 1 2005, 03:51 PM
yummy_delight   QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Oct 1 2005, 1:51 PM)Its not...   Oct 1 2005, 07:49 PM
pandamonium   by perfect i meant that everyone will be physicall...   Oct 1 2005, 12:12 AM
yummy_delight   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Sep 30 2005, 10:12 PM)by ...   Oct 1 2005, 12:14 AM
Olive   If something horribly went wrong, who is to blame?...   Oct 1 2005, 08:32 AM
disco infiltrator   I don't think they know what the gender of the...   Oct 1 2005, 01:03 PM
Heewee   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Oct 1 2005, 1:03 PM...   Oct 1 2005, 03:40 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(Heewee @ Oct 1 2005, 3:40 PM) Actually,...   Oct 1 2005, 05:05 PM
WindSorcerous   Leave it all alone... Be happy with the baby you g...   Oct 1 2005, 03:42 PM
xcaitlinx   wow...this is kinda funny because we were discussi...   Oct 1 2005, 07:01 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(xcaitlinx @ Oct 1 2005, 5:01 PM)wow...t...   Oct 1 2005, 09:32 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Oct 1 2005, 9:32 PM)What exa...   Oct 1 2005, 09:46 PM
yummy_delight   QUOTE(Kristinaa @ Oct 1 2005, 7:46 PM)I agree...   Oct 1 2005, 10:00 PM
AngelicEyz00   QUOTE(yummy_delight @ Oct 1 2005, 8:00 PM) Bu...   Oct 1 2005, 10:05 PM
illumineering   QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Oct 1 2005, 11:05 PM)Umm...   Oct 3 2005, 09:46 PM
AngelicEyz00   QUOTE(illumineering @ Oct 3 2005, 7:46 PM)It...   Oct 4 2005, 12:09 AM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(yummy_delight @ Oct 1 2005, 8:00 PM) Bu...   Oct 1 2005, 10:07 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   This topic reminds me of anime character. I didn’t...   Oct 1 2005, 09:57 PM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Oct 1 2005, 9:5...   Oct 5 2005, 09:34 PM
mai_z   QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Oct 5 2005, 9:34 PM...   Oct 6 2005, 03:30 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   ^ and .. a permanent changes. Makeup is totally d...   Oct 1 2005, 10:04 PM
Programmer   ^geeek no need for choosing me and elba can make ...   Oct 1 2005, 10:06 PM
AngelicEyz00   In your dreams, GEEEEEEEK... Stay on topic. And ...   Oct 1 2005, 10:08 PM
Kristinaa   ^ no one said anything about race... QUOTE(Angeli...   Oct 1 2005, 10:10 PM
Programmer   And I'd rather make babies with my boyfriend. ...   Oct 1 2005, 10:10 PM
c0cONuTTeR   I want a kid named coco and a boy named stanley an...   Oct 3 2005, 09:47 PM
c0cONuTTeR   GAH DOUBLE POST :(   Oct 3 2005, 09:48 PM
one_and_only   i kind of scares me to think people will choose th...   Oct 3 2005, 09:57 PM
ComradeRed   I don't see what's wrong with it. It's...   Oct 4 2005, 10:54 PM
disco infiltrator   But they work with alleles already present. You ca...   Oct 6 2005, 07:16 PM
emazing   Hm, this is interesting. IMO - I think that the se...   Oct 6 2005, 10:10 PM
disco infiltrator   ^ Any reasons why?   Oct 7 2005, 07:14 AM
mai_z   ^^^ As far as I know, albino is a recessive mutate...   Oct 7 2005, 09:11 PM
disco infiltrator   But if the allele is not present to work with, the...   Oct 7 2005, 10:44 PM
disco infiltrator   Refute me, bitches!   Oct 9 2005, 10:46 PM
antix10_kos   I don't think that it is wrong or immoral to c...   Oct 11 2005, 11:23 AM
Justingamemaster   It is completely alright to choose the gender, eye...   Oct 13 2005, 11:25 PM
Olive   QUOTE(Justingamemaster @ Oct 14 2005, 2:25 PM...   Oct 15 2005, 05:43 AM
Olive   woops double post   Oct 15 2005, 05:44 AM


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