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Jesus... gay??
latinprep12
post Sep 10 2005, 10:22 AM
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Well was he? There appears to be nothing in the bible to suggest otherwise. I ask this as a serious question as it would throw so much light on current issues and debates about homosexuality.

This is in no way intended to offended Christians...it is a serious search for some truth. There is certainly nothing I can see in the bible that indicates that he was Heterosexual and homosexuality was widely practised at the time. It also interest me that of the twelve chosen to be his disciples they were all men.

Maybe someone can put me right on some biblical knowledge. But I cannot find a single passage where he sees women as 'desireable' and yet he is always on the lookout for men 'A fisher of men'.

Your thoughts would be appreciated. wink.gif and yes this is a serious topic
 
 
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post Sep 29 2005, 08:19 PM
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Jesus is and was not homosexual. In the bible it condemns homosexuality. As people have already stated, Jesus was perfect, pure, holy, without sin. Homosexuality was condemned and Jesus being pure as he was, would not and could not be homosexual. Jesus did not have relations with any human, woman or man, because that is not why he was here. His purpose was not to procreate. Jesus' love, agape, is how he loved everyone, he never had romantic feelings or anything of the sort. There is no way that Jesus was mistakenly killed; that it was the wrong peron. Everyone knew who Jesus was. He traveled much and performed miracles and made claims that he was the Son of God which led him to be widely known. He was persecuted all of his life. His sole purpose was to die on the cross for our sins and because of that there is no way someone else could have accidentally been killed because they claimed they were Jesus. Who would want to do such a thing in the first place? They would get persecuted. People wanted Jesus dead. Why would someone claim to be him? That's not logical. People didn't even want to associate themselves with Jesus for the fear of getting persecuted. Just like Ellen stated, Judas is the one who basically sold Jesus out which is further evidence for the fact that it was not a mistaken death. Also like she said, Jesus did not put up a fight but went willingly. Any other man could not have taken such torture and would not have done so willingly either. There is no reason for Judas to sell out another random person and state that he is Jesus so that that person would die instead. Why? Because again, Jesus' purpose was to die on the cross. About God not having sex and Mary becoming pregnant deal, well, God is all powerful. He made Adam out of dust. God is also not human. Thus, no sperm. Jesus is the "human form" of God. If he was able to make a complete human being, Adam, out of dust and Eve out of one of his ribs I'm positive he could have impregnated a virgin. And this so called "alien style" does not mean that Jesus would have to be deformed or anything of the sort. Once again because God is all powerful Jesus did look human, that was the point. There is no reason for anything to be excluded or expunged from the bible. The bible is all truth, all facts. Of course that's coming from me, a believer, and others will think otherwise. Prostitutes were talked about in the bible. The only ones spoken of were not just those that repented. The bible talked of sinners and talked of those who never once repented, not just of those who repented. Furthermore, of course Jesus did as he preached. Of course. He was perfect, holy, pure, without sin. And removing something to make the religion make more sense is stupid. Sorry, but it is. No religion makes complete sense. That's not the point of it either. It's supposed to be about faith, "being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." (Hebrews 11:1) which to me connotes that we must also have faith in the bible while we might not entirely understand it. That's why it would be quite pointless to attempt to make the bible make more sense by changing stories. The bible is what it is.

Uhm, I had more to write and address but I'll do that at a later time.
 

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latinprep12   Jesus... gay??   Sep 10 2005, 10:22 AM
Kristinaa   Have you read The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown? http...   Sep 10 2005, 10:24 AM
latinprep12   ^ I seen the book before in the stores and never t...   Sep 10 2005, 10:29 AM
mipadi   Jesus may have had something going on with Mary Ma...   Sep 10 2005, 10:35 AM
Kristinaa   Read It. I'll give you the sparks notes. The...   Sep 10 2005, 10:36 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 10 2005, 10:39 AM
SillyCourtney   QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 10 2005, 10:39 AM)Does He ...   Sep 10 2005, 02:26 PM
Kristinaa   Hold on...i'll look it up QUOTE(http://www.b...   Sep 10 2005, 10:43 AM
Paradox of Life   Nowhere in the Bible does it state that he is homo...   Sep 10 2005, 12:14 PM
L!ckitySplit   i agree^ wow some uber religous people like my aun...   Sep 10 2005, 01:55 PM
Paradox of Life   ^ Ooh. Jesus has a crush. -sings and dances around...   Sep 10 2005, 02:17 PM
L!ckitySplit   Jesus and mary sittin' in a tree, oh my, tha...   Sep 10 2005, 02:19 PM
andromeda_90   I don't think Jesus is gay. In the Davinci cod...   Sep 10 2005, 02:30 PM
Paradox of Life   The Da Vinci Code is fake. It's a fiction nove...   Sep 10 2005, 02:41 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 10 2005, 2:41 PM)The Da V...   Sep 10 2005, 06:20 PM
L!ckitySplit   but they did somethingon the discovery channel abo...   Sep 10 2005, 02:42 PM
latinprep12   ^x2 Thats why I <3 her. shes so smart and can p...   Sep 10 2005, 02:43 PM
Shahin   QUOTE(latinprep12 @ Sep 10 2005, 11:43 AM)^x2...   Sep 10 2005, 03:02 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(latinprep12 @ Sep 10 2005, 1:43 PM)^x2 ...   Sep 10 2005, 06:42 PM
Endless_Symphony   ^ well the uproar might equal to what happened whe...   Sep 10 2005, 04:12 PM
Kristinaa   Algebra is fun. It's a hella lot easier than G...   Sep 10 2005, 06:46 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 17 2005, 06:49 PM
latinprep12   umm its called boredom and well i was just wonderi...   Sep 10 2005, 06:51 PM
Kristinaa   Out of sheer boredom? Hmph.. Katt. If you run f...   Sep 10 2005, 06:53 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 10 2005, 07:11 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 10 2005, 7:11 PM)Thanks. ...   Sep 11 2005, 06:00 PM
Shahin   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 11 2...   Sep 11 2005, 06:18 PM
gigiopolis   Okay, now you all are just bordering on spam. Let...   Sep 10 2005, 06:56 PM
suddenly she   as a christian, for me, Jesus = God. and God.. doe...   Sep 10 2005, 07:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Sep 10 2005, 7:19 PM)Jes...   Sep 10 2005, 07:21 PM
bellpepper   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Sep 10 2005, 4:19 PM)as ...   Sep 11 2005, 12:56 AM
ComradeRed   I'm pretty sure Jesus was beyond sexual desire...   Sep 10 2005, 08:35 PM
dancerellie714   Jesus had desciples that were all men because wome...   Sep 10 2005, 09:32 PM
marfmallow   One, this is pointless because there is no way of ...   Sep 11 2005, 12:29 PM
mzkandi   QUOTE(marfmallow @ Sep 11 2005, 1:29 PM)One, ...   Sep 11 2005, 01:54 PM
mishyerr   ...I'm not Christian, but if Jesus was gay.. t...   Sep 11 2005, 01:23 PM
suddenly she   i think an interesting question would be, do homos...   Sep 11 2005, 04:01 PM
mai_z   QUOTEi think an interesting question would be, do ...   Sep 11 2005, 04:05 PM
Shahin   Jesus is not God. He was a completely normal human...   Sep 11 2005, 05:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Shahin @ Sep 11 2005, 5:50 PM)Jesus is ...   Sep 11 2005, 08:19 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 11 2005, 8:19 PM)na...   Sep 12 2005, 04:43 PM
Shahin   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 11 2...   Sep 12 2005, 11:54 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 11 2005, 06:40 PM
suddenly she   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 11 2005, 7:40 PM)...   Sep 11 2005, 08:38 PM
Kristinaa   Immaculately conceived. However that is spelled. ...   Sep 11 2005, 06:43 PM
Paradox of Life   I know this might be random, but if God created ho...   Sep 11 2005, 08:18 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 11 2005, 9:18 PM)I know t...   Sep 11 2005, 08:26 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 8:26 PM)h...   Sep 11 2005, 08:30 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 7:26 PM)h...   Sep 11 2005, 08:36 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 11 2005, 9:36 PM)Didn...   Sep 11 2005, 09:08 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 9:08 PM)d...   Sep 11 2005, 09:10 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 8:08 PM)d...   Sep 12 2005, 04:40 PM
dancerellie714   okay i see what you're saying fae...but i thin...   Sep 11 2005, 09:14 PM
Spirited Away   uh, yea.. i see that now, sorry. the last sentence...   Sep 11 2005, 09:24 PM
sadolakced acid   you can explain jesus's ressurection the way t...   Sep 11 2005, 10:41 PM
suddenly she   ^yeah. and i want a duck. not sarcasm. look at his...   Sep 11 2005, 11:08 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 11 2005, 11:41 PM...   Sep 11 2005, 11:24 PM
anubis   you're getting yourself into some deep shit ju...   Sep 11 2005, 10:59 PM
jsmooth4ever   I think its pretty clear when it tells you homosex...   Sep 12 2005, 06:20 PM
mai_z   QUOTE(jsmooth4ever @ Sep 12 2005, 6:20 PM)I t...   Sep 12 2005, 06:36 PM
jsmooth4ever   QUOTE(mai_z @ Sep 12 2005, 6:36 PM)In the bib...   Sep 12 2005, 06:44 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 11:24 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 06:40 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 7:40 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 08:17 PM
sadolakced acid   god only condemns the act. you can be gay all you...   Sep 12 2005, 06:47 PM
jsmooth4ever   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 6:47 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 06:50 PM
Kristinaa   ^ I'll just use guys for example. You can thi...   Sep 12 2005, 07:02 PM
jsmooth4ever   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 12 2...   Sep 12 2005, 07:17 PM
sadolakced acid   gay= when a man likes a man. the sin which is fo...   Sep 12 2005, 07:51 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 7:51 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 10:15 PM
jsmooth4ever   Point well taken might of wanted to use the word...   Sep 12 2005, 07:59 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ by accident. what if judas wanted the romans t...   Sep 12 2005, 08:52 PM
dancerellie714   there are quite a few passages that foreshadow the...   Sep 12 2005, 10:03 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 12 2005, 10:03 PM)...   Sep 13 2005, 09:13 PM
vehvih   Homo Jesus?? Sure why not? Anyway, I don't thi...   Sep 15 2005, 09:35 PM
Kristinaa   Jesus was kinda like a nun. Nun's aren't a...   Sep 17 2005, 09:30 AM
sadolakced acid   [quote=Justin]define like then. [/quote] Lik...   Sep 17 2005, 06:04 PM
Kristinaa   Like? As in I like a guy? Or was that a trick ...   Sep 19 2005, 08:48 PM
sadolakced acid   but there are varying degrees of liking someone, ...   Sep 19 2005, 09:49 PM
insomniac   ^ i wouldnt say jesus was a nun.. but then, what ...   Sep 17 2005, 10:41 AM
SyKoKiNeSiS   Leonardo da Vinci was gay not Jesus.   Sep 18 2005, 12:29 AM
insomniac   kristina you got a new username! now i have to...   Sep 19 2005, 09:19 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(insomniac @ Sep 19 2005, 9:19 PM)kristi...   Sep 23 2005, 12:43 PM
yanners   the bible condemns homosexuality. so jesus could ...   Sep 24 2005, 06:58 AM
sadolakced acid   jesus never followed the bible.   Sep 25 2005, 01:45 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   ^ Thats true. Some infomations are made by people....   Sep 25 2005, 01:46 AM
BrandonSaunders   Condemnation of homosexuality is in the OLD testam...   Sep 25 2005, 02:31 AM
Olive   Jesus is not homosexual. We are "sons" a...   Sep 25 2005, 03:44 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Olive @ Sep 25 2005, 2:44 AM)  Jes...   Sep 25 2005, 12:51 PM
Olive   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Sep 26 2005, 3:51 AM)...   Sep 25 2005, 08:05 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Olive @ Sep 25 2005, 7:05 PM)Can you ho...   Sep 26 2005, 03:29 PM
Olive   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Sep 27 2005, 6:29 AM)...   Sep 27 2005, 03:37 AM
dahoonpride   sorry to disappoint you all. but just to clear th...   Sep 25 2005, 03:54 AM
sadolakced acid   no where in the bible does it mention cars. cars...   Sep 25 2005, 08:34 AM
dahoonpride   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 25 2005, 4:34 PM)...   Sep 25 2005, 08:52 AM
sadolakced acid   i'm sorry if you mistook that as an argument. ...   Sep 25 2005, 09:00 AM
dahoonpride   aight....i feel like an idiot now   Sep 25 2005, 09:11 AM
sadolakced acid   first we must note that must the new testament was...   Sep 29 2005, 06:46 PM
M1SSxCHR1SSY   Jesus is and was not homosexual. In the bible it c...   Sep 29 2005, 08:19 PM
sadolakced acid   two things. paragraphs propoganda. you say jesu...   Sep 29 2005, 08:57 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 29 2005, 9:57 PM)...   Sep 29 2005, 09:01 PM
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