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Jesus... gay?? |
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![]() M.a. x. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,913 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 148,641 ![]() |
Well was he? There appears to be nothing in the bible to suggest otherwise. I ask this as a serious question as it would throw so much light on current issues and debates about homosexuality.
This is in no way intended to offended Christians...it is a serious search for some truth. There is certainly nothing I can see in the bible that indicates that he was Heterosexual and homosexuality was widely practised at the time. It also interest me that of the twelve chosen to be his disciples they were all men. Maybe someone can put me right on some biblical knowledge. But I cannot find a single passage where he sees women as 'desireable' and yet he is always on the lookout for men 'A fisher of men'. Your thoughts would be appreciated. ![]() |
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first we must note that must the new testament was written decades after jesus's death.
then we must remember that it was not written by jesus. and we must take note of the lack of mention of jesus's sexuality. which leaves a few possiblities: - god doesn't have sex, and isn't attacted to humans, so jesus didn't. - jesus was gay, and therefore didn't have any public relationships, or they were expunged from the records. - jesus was involved with someone, say, mary magdlene, who the later church did not approve of and she was expunged from the records (or it was never public). first we will look at the first one: - god doesn't have sex, and isn't attacted to humans, so jesus didn't. now, the obvious thing that contradicts this is that god impregnated mary. Which means that god got his sperm into mary. which means sex. so we either get that god had sex with mary, OR that jesus isn't genetically mary's son, and was implanted (all alien style) to grow in mary. now, looking at the later, we can see that jesus appeared to be a normal human. he was born normally, the pregnacy was normal, etc. We know jesus was a male. we know what jesus tells people about adultry. what we don't know is whether jesus was attracted at any human, so it's definatly a possiblitiy that jesus wasn't attracted to humans at all. then let's look at the next possibility. - jesus was gay, and therefore didn't have any public relationships, or they were expunged from the records. this would certainly be possible. Many people don't do as they preach, and it is certainly possible that jesus could have done so. However, if jesus was to maintain is god status, he would need to do as he preached. therefore, if jesus was gay, it was either not public, or the writers of the bible ommitted it in order to help the religion make sense. so none of these possiblities are removed. finally; - jesus was involved with someone, say, mary magdlene, who the later church did not approve of and she was expunged from the records (or it was never public). it is certainly possible, yet doubtful. The church has no problems with prostitutes as long as they have 'repented'. of course, people do crazy things for love, so it's possible jesus still had a relationship with someone who didn't follow his teachings, but then it would have been expunged. so we have all options as viable, expect for the one about god actually having sex with mary, which would mean that jesus, being an extention of god, would be straight. the divinity of jesus cannot be disproven, so i will assume that it was not true for the purposes of the debate. i am well aware that this is very much a possibility, but then it'd make the debate pointless, so i'm ignoring it. SO; if jesus was not divinly immune to being attracted to humans, then we see that either jesus had a gay relationship or jesus had a straight one. however, there does not seem to be a reason for jesus's straight relationship (if there was one) to be excluded from the bible, expecailly if it were public. slight mention of the savior's humanity would make him more contactable to worshippers. it would certainly benefit the church to mention if jesus had a relationship. therefore, it is unlikely that jesus had a straight relationship that was known about by any of the writers of the bible. which leaves that jesus was gay. |
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