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Jesus... gay??
latinprep12
post Sep 10 2005, 10:22 AM
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Well was he? There appears to be nothing in the bible to suggest otherwise. I ask this as a serious question as it would throw so much light on current issues and debates about homosexuality.

This is in no way intended to offended Christians...it is a serious search for some truth. There is certainly nothing I can see in the bible that indicates that he was Heterosexual and homosexuality was widely practised at the time. It also interest me that of the twelve chosen to be his disciples they were all men.

Maybe someone can put me right on some biblical knowledge. But I cannot find a single passage where he sees women as 'desireable' and yet he is always on the lookout for men 'A fisher of men'.

Your thoughts would be appreciated. wink.gif and yes this is a serious topic
 
 
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post Sep 29 2005, 06:46 PM
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first we must note that must the new testament was written decades after jesus's death.

then we must remember that it was not written by jesus.

and we must take note of the lack of mention of jesus's sexuality.

which leaves a few possiblities:

- god doesn't have sex, and isn't attacted to humans, so jesus didn't.

- jesus was gay, and therefore didn't have any public relationships, or they were expunged from the records.

- jesus was involved with someone, say, mary magdlene, who the later church did not approve of and she was expunged from the records (or it was never public).


first we will look at the first one:


- god doesn't have sex, and isn't attacted to humans, so jesus didn't.

now, the obvious thing that contradicts this is that god impregnated mary. Which means that god got his sperm into mary. which means sex.
so we either get that god had sex with mary,

OR

that jesus isn't genetically mary's son, and was implanted (all alien style) to grow in mary.

now, looking at the later, we can see that jesus appeared to be a normal human. he was born normally, the pregnacy was normal, etc. We know jesus was a male. we know what jesus tells people about adultry.

what we don't know is whether jesus was attracted at any human, so it's definatly a possiblitiy that jesus wasn't attracted to humans at all.

then let's look at the next possibility.


- jesus was gay, and therefore didn't have any public relationships, or they were expunged from the records.

this would certainly be possible. Many people don't do as they preach, and it is certainly possible that jesus could have done so. However, if jesus was to maintain is god status, he would need to do as he preached.

therefore, if jesus was gay, it was either not public, or the writers of the bible ommitted it in order to help the religion make sense.

so none of these possiblities are removed.

finally; - jesus was involved with someone, say, mary magdlene, who the later church did not approve of and she was expunged from the records (or it was never public).

it is certainly possible, yet doubtful. The church has no problems with prostitutes as long as they have 'repented'. of course, people do crazy things for love, so it's possible jesus still had a relationship with someone who didn't follow his teachings, but then it would have been expunged.


so we have all options as viable, expect for the one about god actually having sex with mary, which would mean that jesus, being an extention of god, would be straight.

the divinity of jesus cannot be disproven, so i will assume that it was not true for the purposes of the debate. i am well aware that this is very much a possibility, but then it'd make the debate pointless, so i'm ignoring it.

SO; if jesus was not divinly immune to being attracted to humans, then we see that either jesus had a gay relationship or jesus had a straight one.

however, there does not seem to be a reason for jesus's straight relationship (if there was one) to be excluded from the bible, expecailly if it were public. slight mention of the savior's humanity would make him more contactable to worshippers. it would certainly benefit the church to mention if jesus had a relationship.

therefore, it is unlikely that jesus had a straight relationship that was known about by any of the writers of the bible.


which leaves that jesus was gay.
 

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latinprep12   Jesus... gay??   Sep 10 2005, 10:22 AM
Kristinaa   Have you read The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown? http...   Sep 10 2005, 10:24 AM
latinprep12   ^ I seen the book before in the stores and never t...   Sep 10 2005, 10:29 AM
mipadi   Jesus may have had something going on with Mary Ma...   Sep 10 2005, 10:35 AM
Kristinaa   Read It. I'll give you the sparks notes. The...   Sep 10 2005, 10:36 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 10 2005, 10:39 AM
SillyCourtney   QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 10 2005, 10:39 AM)Does He ...   Sep 10 2005, 02:26 PM
Kristinaa   Hold on...i'll look it up QUOTE(http://www.b...   Sep 10 2005, 10:43 AM
Paradox of Life   Nowhere in the Bible does it state that he is homo...   Sep 10 2005, 12:14 PM
L!ckitySplit   i agree^ wow some uber religous people like my aun...   Sep 10 2005, 01:55 PM
Paradox of Life   ^ Ooh. Jesus has a crush. -sings and dances around...   Sep 10 2005, 02:17 PM
L!ckitySplit   Jesus and mary sittin' in a tree, oh my, tha...   Sep 10 2005, 02:19 PM
andromeda_90   I don't think Jesus is gay. In the Davinci cod...   Sep 10 2005, 02:30 PM
Paradox of Life   The Da Vinci Code is fake. It's a fiction nove...   Sep 10 2005, 02:41 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 10 2005, 2:41 PM)The Da V...   Sep 10 2005, 06:20 PM
L!ckitySplit   but they did somethingon the discovery channel abo...   Sep 10 2005, 02:42 PM
latinprep12   ^x2 Thats why I <3 her. shes so smart and can p...   Sep 10 2005, 02:43 PM
Shahin   QUOTE(latinprep12 @ Sep 10 2005, 11:43 AM)^x2...   Sep 10 2005, 03:02 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(latinprep12 @ Sep 10 2005, 1:43 PM)^x2 ...   Sep 10 2005, 06:42 PM
Endless_Symphony   ^ well the uproar might equal to what happened whe...   Sep 10 2005, 04:12 PM
Kristinaa   Algebra is fun. It's a hella lot easier than G...   Sep 10 2005, 06:46 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 17 2005, 06:49 PM
latinprep12   umm its called boredom and well i was just wonderi...   Sep 10 2005, 06:51 PM
Kristinaa   Out of sheer boredom? Hmph.. Katt. If you run f...   Sep 10 2005, 06:53 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 10 2005, 07:11 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 10 2005, 7:11 PM)Thanks. ...   Sep 11 2005, 06:00 PM
Shahin   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 11 2...   Sep 11 2005, 06:18 PM
gigiopolis   Okay, now you all are just bordering on spam. Let...   Sep 10 2005, 06:56 PM
suddenly she   as a christian, for me, Jesus = God. and God.. doe...   Sep 10 2005, 07:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Sep 10 2005, 7:19 PM)Jes...   Sep 10 2005, 07:21 PM
bellpepper   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Sep 10 2005, 4:19 PM)as ...   Sep 11 2005, 12:56 AM
ComradeRed   I'm pretty sure Jesus was beyond sexual desire...   Sep 10 2005, 08:35 PM
dancerellie714   Jesus had desciples that were all men because wome...   Sep 10 2005, 09:32 PM
marfmallow   One, this is pointless because there is no way of ...   Sep 11 2005, 12:29 PM
mzkandi   QUOTE(marfmallow @ Sep 11 2005, 1:29 PM)One, ...   Sep 11 2005, 01:54 PM
mishyerr   ...I'm not Christian, but if Jesus was gay.. t...   Sep 11 2005, 01:23 PM
suddenly she   i think an interesting question would be, do homos...   Sep 11 2005, 04:01 PM
mai_z   QUOTEi think an interesting question would be, do ...   Sep 11 2005, 04:05 PM
Shahin   Jesus is not God. He was a completely normal human...   Sep 11 2005, 05:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Shahin @ Sep 11 2005, 5:50 PM)Jesus is ...   Sep 11 2005, 08:19 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 11 2005, 8:19 PM)na...   Sep 12 2005, 04:43 PM
Shahin   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 11 2...   Sep 12 2005, 11:54 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 10 2...   Sep 11 2005, 06:40 PM
suddenly she   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 11 2005, 7:40 PM)...   Sep 11 2005, 08:38 PM
Kristinaa   Immaculately conceived. However that is spelled. ...   Sep 11 2005, 06:43 PM
Paradox of Life   I know this might be random, but if God created ho...   Sep 11 2005, 08:18 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 11 2005, 9:18 PM)I know t...   Sep 11 2005, 08:26 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 8:26 PM)h...   Sep 11 2005, 08:30 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 7:26 PM)h...   Sep 11 2005, 08:36 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Sep 11 2005, 9:36 PM)Didn...   Sep 11 2005, 09:08 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 9:08 PM)d...   Sep 11 2005, 09:10 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 8:08 PM)d...   Sep 12 2005, 04:40 PM
dancerellie714   okay i see what you're saying fae...but i thin...   Sep 11 2005, 09:14 PM
Spirited Away   uh, yea.. i see that now, sorry. the last sentence...   Sep 11 2005, 09:24 PM
sadolakced acid   you can explain jesus's ressurection the way t...   Sep 11 2005, 10:41 PM
suddenly she   ^yeah. and i want a duck. not sarcasm. look at his...   Sep 11 2005, 11:08 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 11 2005, 11:41 PM...   Sep 11 2005, 11:24 PM
anubis   you're getting yourself into some deep shit ju...   Sep 11 2005, 10:59 PM
jsmooth4ever   I think its pretty clear when it tells you homosex...   Sep 12 2005, 06:20 PM
mai_z   QUOTE(jsmooth4ever @ Sep 12 2005, 6:20 PM)I t...   Sep 12 2005, 06:36 PM
jsmooth4ever   QUOTE(mai_z @ Sep 12 2005, 6:36 PM)In the bib...   Sep 12 2005, 06:44 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 11:24 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 06:40 PM
dancerellie714   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 7:40 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 08:17 PM
sadolakced acid   god only condemns the act. you can be gay all you...   Sep 12 2005, 06:47 PM
jsmooth4ever   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 6:47 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 06:50 PM
Kristinaa   ^ I'll just use guys for example. You can thi...   Sep 12 2005, 07:02 PM
jsmooth4ever   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 12 2...   Sep 12 2005, 07:17 PM
sadolakced acid   gay= when a man likes a man. the sin which is fo...   Sep 12 2005, 07:51 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 7:51 PM)...   Sep 12 2005, 10:15 PM
jsmooth4ever   Point well taken might of wanted to use the word...   Sep 12 2005, 07:59 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ by accident. what if judas wanted the romans t...   Sep 12 2005, 08:52 PM
dancerellie714   there are quite a few passages that foreshadow the...   Sep 12 2005, 10:03 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 12 2005, 10:03 PM)...   Sep 13 2005, 09:13 PM
vehvih   Homo Jesus?? Sure why not? Anyway, I don't thi...   Sep 15 2005, 09:35 PM
Kristinaa   Jesus was kinda like a nun. Nun's aren't a...   Sep 17 2005, 09:30 AM
sadolakced acid   [quote=Justin]define like then. [/quote] Lik...   Sep 17 2005, 06:04 PM
Kristinaa   Like? As in I like a guy? Or was that a trick ...   Sep 19 2005, 08:48 PM
sadolakced acid   but there are varying degrees of liking someone, ...   Sep 19 2005, 09:49 PM
insomniac   ^ i wouldnt say jesus was a nun.. but then, what ...   Sep 17 2005, 10:41 AM
SyKoKiNeSiS   Leonardo da Vinci was gay not Jesus.   Sep 18 2005, 12:29 AM
insomniac   kristina you got a new username! now i have to...   Sep 19 2005, 09:19 PM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(insomniac @ Sep 19 2005, 9:19 PM)kristi...   Sep 23 2005, 12:43 PM
yanners   the bible condemns homosexuality. so jesus could ...   Sep 24 2005, 06:58 AM
sadolakced acid   jesus never followed the bible.   Sep 25 2005, 01:45 AM
Spiritual Winged Aura   ^ Thats true. Some infomations are made by people....   Sep 25 2005, 01:46 AM
BrandonSaunders   Condemnation of homosexuality is in the OLD testam...   Sep 25 2005, 02:31 AM
Olive   Jesus is not homosexual. We are "sons" a...   Sep 25 2005, 03:44 AM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Olive @ Sep 25 2005, 2:44 AM)  Jes...   Sep 25 2005, 12:51 PM
Olive   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Sep 26 2005, 3:51 AM)...   Sep 25 2005, 08:05 PM
BrandonSaunders   QUOTE(Olive @ Sep 25 2005, 7:05 PM)Can you ho...   Sep 26 2005, 03:29 PM
Olive   QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Sep 27 2005, 6:29 AM)...   Sep 27 2005, 03:37 AM
dahoonpride   sorry to disappoint you all. but just to clear th...   Sep 25 2005, 03:54 AM
sadolakced acid   no where in the bible does it mention cars. cars...   Sep 25 2005, 08:34 AM
dahoonpride   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 25 2005, 4:34 PM)...   Sep 25 2005, 08:52 AM
sadolakced acid   i'm sorry if you mistook that as an argument. ...   Sep 25 2005, 09:00 AM
dahoonpride   aight....i feel like an idiot now   Sep 25 2005, 09:11 AM
sadolakced acid   first we must note that must the new testament was...   Sep 29 2005, 06:46 PM
M1SSxCHR1SSY   Jesus is and was not homosexual. In the bible it c...   Sep 29 2005, 08:19 PM
sadolakced acid   two things. paragraphs propoganda. you say jesu...   Sep 29 2005, 08:57 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 29 2005, 9:57 PM)...   Sep 29 2005, 09:01 PM
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