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Sep 19 2005, 12:33 PM
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I'm not sure if this is right for debate so I'll post this here. If I'm wrong, I know a wonderful mod will put it in the right section
Doctors are going attempt a radical new surgery: a total face transplant. They're going to take the face of a dead person and put it on the face of someone (as of yet not selected) whose face was horribly disfigured in some accident. You can read the article here. When I saw this I was like "Holy crap" and actually felt a little sick to my stomach. Is the desire to look nice worth risking your life? And then the whole thing about it being the face of a dead person... I think that's effed up. What do you guys think? |
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Sep 21 2005, 08:53 PM
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People have to stop trying to be something they're not. If you're not freaking original enough to make your own face, you deserve to be ugly.
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Sep 21 2005, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(eunie03 @ Sep 21 2005, 6:53 PM) People have to stop trying to be something they're not. If you're not freaking original enough to make your own face, you deserve to be ugly. AGAIN. IT ISN'T FOR UGLY PEOPLE. IT'S FOR BADLY BADLY BADLY DISFIGURED PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER UGLY, BUT NOW ARE JUST SCARY. |
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Sep 22 2005, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Sep 21 2005, 11:25 PM) AGAIN. IT ISN'T FOR UGLY PEOPLE. IT'S FOR BADLY BADLY BADLY DISFIGURED PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER UGLY, BUT NOW ARE JUST SCARY. WELL... I mean. In the strictest sense, disfigured people are "ugly" by definition. You hardly go, "wow, that disfigured person is really pretty". And I don't think disfiguration is scary much. It's tragic and unattractive... but scary? Nah. That aside, I STILL don't see the point in stealing someone else's face. If we have the techniques to paste on someone's face on another person, we have the technique to build a new one. edit: Oooo, I just read your old post. They wouldn't look the same, eh? You see.. that just changes everything. How misleading. But my ugly=disfigured comment still stands. |
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Sep 22 2005, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(eunie03 @ Sep 22 2005, 1:37 AM) That aside, I STILLl don't see the point in stealing someone else's face. If we have the techniques to paste on someone's face on another person, we have the technique to build a new one. No, building a new face is completely different from using an existing one. Where are you going to get all the skin and tissue it would take to build a new face? How are you going to shape it so there are no seams or scars? How are you going to build nerves so lips and eyelids function properly? All this is much harder to do than using an existing face. The doctor's also aren't "stealing" someone else's face--the face was donated, just like an organ. |
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Sep 22 2005, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 22 2005, 12:40 AM) No, building a new face is completely different from using an existing one. Where are you going to get all the skin and tissue it would take to build a new face? How are you going to shape it so there are no seams or scars? How are you going to build nerves so lips and eyelids function properly? All this is much harder to do than using an existing face. The doctor's also aren't "stealing" someone else's face--the face was donated, just like an organ. First of all.... you're taking "stealing" out of context. I meant stealing as in imitation, not theft. Secondly, I wasn't aware it wasn't in image-likeness. Last... you really think a face transplant wil result in no seams or scars? -_-;; |
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Sep 22 2005, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(eunie03 @ Sep 22 2005, 1:42 AM) First of all.... you're taking "stealing" out of context. I meant stealing as in imitation, not theft. Secondly, I wasn't aware it wasn't in image-likeness. Last... you really think a face transplant wil result in no seams or scars? -_-;; Maybe a thin mark around the outer edge, but nothing like completely building a new face from skin grafts. |
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Sep 22 2005, 10:33 AM
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Sep 22 2005, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(eunie03 @ Sep 22 2005, 11:33 AM) Right, but had you read what I wrote, I was comparing the growth of scar tissue between a face transplant and the (theoretical) use of skin grafts to build a new face. I didn't say anything about infection or rejection by the body, which is an issue with any transplant. |
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Sep 22 2005, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 22 2005, 11:13 AM) Right, but had you read what I wrote, I was comparing the growth of scar tissue between a face transplant and the (theoretical) use of skin grafts to build a new face. I didn't say anything about infection or rejection by the body, which is an issue with any transplant. Please... you didn't say anything about the growth of scar tissue. If you infer something, we're suppoed to read your mind? Comparitavely speaking, [to me] the two are just alternatives to each other. I don't necessarily believe one's better than the other. It's my opinion. I'm sorry if it disagrees with yours, but hey. Thats life. |
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Sep 23 2005, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(eunie03 @ Sep 22 2005, 10:09 PM) Please... you didn't say anything about the growth of scar tissue. If you infer something, we're suppoed to read your mind? Comparitavely speaking, [to me] the two are just alternatives to each other. I don't necessarily believe one's better than the other. It's my opinion. I'm sorry if it disagrees with yours, but hey. Thats life. Not to be disagreeable, but actually, I did specifically mention scarring: QUOTE(mipadi) How are you going to shape it so there are no seams or scars?
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Madame C face transplant Sep 19 2005, 12:33 PM
mzkandi Why would anyone want a dead persons face..... Th... Sep 19 2005, 02:01 PM
starlette QUOTE(mzkandi @ Sep 19 2005, 2:01 PM)Why woul... Sep 20 2005, 01:56 AM
yanners QUOTE(mzkandi @ Sep 20 2005, 3:01 AM)Why woul... Sep 20 2005, 10:09 AM
krnxswat QUOTE(Madame C @ Sep 19 2005, 12:33 PM)Is the... Sep 19 2005, 02:13 PM
jooleeah ^
Aw, Seon Ho. :/
Anyway, that sounds kind of fre... Sep 19 2005, 02:19 PM
incoherent a dead persons face? whatever happened to just get... Sep 19 2005, 02:41 PM
i heart john YESSSS.
Now I just have to wait until Rachel or ... Sep 19 2005, 02:45 PM
lbjshaq2345 QUOTE(i heart john @ Sep 19 2005, 3:45 PM)YES... Sep 26 2005, 01:12 AM
x_lilvietdreamer_x ...dead person?!?! Sep 19 2005, 02:57 PM
canard bonaparte I imagine that the face would have to be from a fr... Sep 19 2005, 03:14 PM
Blue-Chan So very interesting.
But I would never have a dead... Sep 19 2005, 03:57 PM
LEGITERICJONES Yo, we need to hook you up with one. Just playing.... Sep 19 2005, 04:15 PM
incoherent QUOTE(LEGITERICJONES @ Sep 19 2005, 4:15 PM)Y... Sep 19 2005, 04:31 PM

LEGITERICJONES QUOTE(incoherent @ Sep 19 2005, 5:31 PM)stop ... Sep 19 2005, 05:26 PM


krnxswat QUOTE(LEGITERICJONES @ Sep 19 2005, 5:26 PM)W... Sep 19 2005, 06:46 PM

L!ckitySplit QUOTE(incoherent @ Sep 19 2005, 5:31 PM)stop ... Sep 19 2005, 05:31 PM
mipadi QUOTE(LEGITERICJONES @ Sep 19 2005, 5:15 PM)Y... Sep 19 2005, 06:10 PM
digital.fragrance oh that's just wrong.... but beyond that, imag... Sep 19 2005, 04:20 PM
Heathasm hey...reminds me of that movie face off...cool... Sep 19 2005, 04:26 PM
Heewee I could see how that would be beneficial for peopl... Sep 19 2005, 05:02 PM
EmmalieV I dont want a dead persons identity
THINK ABOUT T... Sep 19 2005, 05:59 PM
lil_gymnast6 Ew, just...ew. That would be horrid. I think I... Sep 19 2005, 06:04 PM
Kristinaa ^ Uh yeah.
Still. That's a bit on the GROSS-H... Sep 19 2005, 06:14 PM
L!ckitySplit ph, well if they use only the skin to fil in spots... Sep 19 2005, 06:14 PM
misskentucky I wouldn't want a deap person's face on my... Sep 19 2005, 06:57 PM
Shortiiex ew taht is really disgusting
but how much does it ... Sep 19 2005, 07:12 PM
eli5e ummmm ..that is really disturbing ..cause see if s... Sep 19 2005, 07:38 PM
Nicolatofu I heard about that on the news this morning..
Tha... Sep 19 2005, 07:45 PM
stephinika ^^
agreed. that sounds...interesting. quite. it s... Sep 19 2005, 07:52 PM
suddenly she i want to be king tut!
that's actually sor... Sep 19 2005, 07:57 PM
Hiphop d[-_-]b Putting a dead persons face on your face is messin... Sep 19 2005, 08:59 PM
EXPLO5ION That... is really creepy. who would wan't a de... Sep 19 2005, 09:27 PM
haleakala1 if i was like a burn victim or something horrific ... Sep 19 2005, 10:57 PM
gigiopolis I know how you guys all feel about putting a decea... Sep 19 2005, 11:04 PM
ermfermoo QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Sep 19 2005, 11:04 PM)I kn... Sep 20 2005, 05:48 AM

Madame C QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 20 2005, 6:48 AM)People... Sep 20 2005, 12:41 PM

gigiopolis QUOTE(Madame C @ Sep 20 2005, 10:41 AM)Yeah, ... Sep 21 2005, 02:48 AM
xquizit QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Sep 19 2005, 11:04 PM)All ... Sep 20 2005, 09:03 AM
aznxdreamer hmm..thats pretty interesting. i would understand ... Sep 19 2005, 11:17 PM
x_angawhomps Dude, imagine if you were a family member of that ... Sep 20 2005, 02:51 AM
niez_cho If I because horrible disfigured, I'd rather s... Sep 20 2005, 05:37 AM
emazing That's gross. o_O
Would people really want a ... Sep 20 2005, 09:29 AM
Chii QUOTE(Heewee @ Sep 19 2005, 6:02 PM)people wh... Sep 20 2005, 12:55 PM
xcaitlinx umm..i'm gunna go BARF now. wow, it's sad ... Sep 20 2005, 08:05 PM
xklipse QUOTE(xcaitlinx @ Sep 20 2005, 6:05 PM)umm..i... Sep 21 2005, 05:28 PM
mouse_3k thats so wrong. Dead people deserve respect with t... Sep 21 2005, 10:37 AM
mipadi QUOTE(mouse_3k @ Sep 21 2005, 11:37 AM)thats ... Sep 21 2005, 10:59 AM
Rachel is love Gigi=Love.
Anything and everything I had to say a... Sep 21 2005, 05:13 PM
Cwlplover Ummm...I'd rather be ugly then look like a dea... Sep 21 2005, 05:19 PM
danielle_x3 i wouldn't want to do that.. and i don't t... Sep 21 2005, 05:22 PM
iNyCxShoRT Oh wow that is SO creepy. Ripping off your face an... Sep 21 2005, 05:24 PM
Cwlplover Ehhh...someone walking around with my face after I... Sep 21 2005, 05:25 PM
krnxswat QUOTE(Cwlplover @ Sep 21 2005, 5:25 PM)Ehhh..... Sep 21 2005, 06:05 PM
tungtwista i just think thats morallly wrong. ugh...dead peop... Sep 21 2005, 06:06 PM
_sarcastic_ it is disturbing, but think of it this way, what i... Sep 21 2005, 06:37 PM
krnxswat QUOTE(_sarcastic_ @ Sep 21 2005, 6:37 PM)it i... Sep 21 2005, 07:20 PM
gigiopolis You know, if you actually read the article, you mi... Sep 21 2005, 07:05 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura If I ever transplant my face, I’ll be haunted by t... Sep 21 2005, 11:22 PM
gigiopolis Well I didn't mean to be rude or anything, I w... Sep 22 2005, 12:43 AM
eunie03 QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Sep 22 2005, 12:43 AM)Well... Sep 22 2005, 12:45 AM
gigiopolis If a face was built from existing skin grafts, it ... Sep 22 2005, 12:47 AM
eunie03 You know, a transplant is rarely perfect. It's... Sep 22 2005, 01:14 AM
mipadi QUOTE(eunie03 @ Sep 22 2005, 2:14 AM)You know... Sep 22 2005, 10:23 AM
Cwlplover Nothing's flawless. Sep 22 2005, 10:42 AM
danielle_x3 everytime i read the article i cringe. i wouldn... Sep 22 2005, 08:36 PM
rinchan089 I saw it on Discovery Health Channel. They conclu... Sep 22 2005, 08:41 PM
rinchan089 You may want to look at this slideshow from the Di... Sep 22 2005, 09:15 PM
WindSorcerous I heard about this...sounds too risky and gross to... Sep 22 2005, 09:17 PM
gigiopolis rinchan089 - Excellent link! Should open some ... Sep 22 2005, 09:20 PM
rinchan089 QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Sep 22 2005, 9:20 PM)rinch... Sep 24 2005, 01:36 PM
mocassinsx29 Well, it's more of skin than actually face I s... Sep 22 2005, 09:23 PM
Beyond Elite That's messed up. Just wasting your money j... Sep 22 2005, 10:23 PM
whooooshy that is soooo creepy. who in the world would want ... Sep 23 2005, 12:59 AM
ermfermoo Oh my god.
Gigi, Mipadi, and a couple of more mem... Sep 23 2005, 05:43 AM
gigiopolis ^ You got that right. Sep 23 2005, 10:26 PM
hammers and hearts HAHAH INSTEAD OF TRADING SPACES IT WOULD BE TRADIN... Sep 25 2005, 05:05 PM
rinchan089 ^^^ I didn't find that very funny...
Rin-chan Sep 25 2005, 08:25 PM
totallyxticxtac that would be kinda gross cuz somebody might think... Sep 25 2005, 08:30 PM
gigiopolis ^ Oh dear. Sep 25 2005, 09:42 PM
PinkTrash uh yeah :/ won't a dead person's face be d... Sep 26 2005, 04:22 PM
mipadi QUOTE(PinkTrash @ Sep 26 2005, 5:22 PM)uh yea... Sep 26 2005, 04:25 PM
OhXiet_ItzDonnA Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take so... Sep 26 2005, 04:27 PM
mipadi QUOTE(OhXiet_ItzDonnA @ Sep 26 2005, 5:27 PM)... Sep 26 2005, 04:29 PM
doork shouldnt a dead person be left alone now since the... Sep 26 2005, 04:29 PM
angel-roh Wow.... and that doesn't like sound debate. Yo... Sep 26 2005, 07:03 PM
Rachel is love QUOTE(OhXiet_ItzDonnA @ Sep 26 2005, 3:27 PM)... Sep 26 2005, 07:16 PM
yuna* I think it's wrong. Why should you alter your ... Sep 26 2005, 07:28 PM
rinchan089 QUOTE(yuna* @ Sep 26 2005, 7:28 PM)I think it... Sep 26 2005, 07:43 PM
Rachel is love ^Borned isn't a word.
And what the hell does... Sep 26 2005, 07:31 PM![]() ![]() |