China...Taiwan... Options

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well as u c Taiwan is a part of China. but ppl around dont get that...*sigh* what do u think?

[DaTru KataLYST]

Taiwan is viewed as an independent nation economically, but it is globally viewed as China's rogue province politically.

I think Taiwan is not independently represented in the United Nations. If it is, well then good for them.

But yeah, China views Taiwan as part of Communist China, yet Taiwan is trying to be politically independent. A very touchy subject, as Taiwan hasn't FORMALLY and OFFICIALLY seceded from China in modern days. Such a PR statement can disrupt the unstable status quo, and we will most likely see a very disconcerting standoff between the two w/ a lot of tension added in. President Bush (I believe) supported Taiwan back in the past.

Here's my view:
With 2008 Beijing Olympics and 2010 Shanghai World Expo coming around, China is inevitably going to be playing a big role diplomatically and economically for the next decade. With these raised diplomatic standards put on China's shoulders by the globe, Taiwan will push the buttons of China the closer we get to the new decade. Is China willing to risk "war" with Taiwan if Taiwan secedes, even though it must be diplomatically revered w/ their Olympics and World Expo?

If Taiwan has the guts to secede, this decade is the time to do it. Do it while the guardsman is wooing a woman. There will be no better time.

And if America gets thrown into the mix, well we then have a recipe for the great China vs. America heavyweight championship match; it will probably be held in the Trump Majal.



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The above will not make sense as I did not proofread or read over it. Please take no notion to my statements as I am just a blumbling tired sleepyhead now. Kthx.

P.S. 74|_|<1|\|6 |_'/|< 7]-[15 15 |=|_||\|

[misoshiru]

I think Taiwan is not independently represented in the United Nations. If it is, well then good for them.

But yeah, China views Taiwan as part of Communist China, yet Taiwan is trying to be politically independent. A very touchy subject, as Taiwan hasn't FORMALLY and OFFICIALLY seceded from China in modern days. Such a PR statement can disrupt the unstable status quo, and we will most likely see a very disconcerting standoff between the two w/ a lot of tension added in. President Bush (I believe) supported Taiwan back in the past.

Here's my view:
With 2008 Beijing Olympics and 2010 Shanghai World Expo coming around, China is inevitably going to be playing a big role diplomatically and economically for the next decade. With these raised diplomatic standards put on China's shoulders by the globe, Taiwan will push the buttons of China the closer we get to the new decade. Is China willing to risk "war" with Taiwan if Taiwan secedes, even though it must be diplomatically revered w/ their Olympics and World Expo?

If Taiwan has the guts to secede, this decade is the time to do it. Do it while the guardsman is wooing a woman. There will be no better time.

And if America gets thrown into the mix, well we then have a recipe for the great China vs. America heavyweight championship match; it will probably be held in the Trump Majal.
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The above will not make sense as I did not proofread or read over it. Please take no notion to my statements as I am just a blumbling tired sleepyhead now. Kthx.

P.S.    74|_|<1|\|6 |_'/|< 7]-[15 15 |=|_||\|

very well said.

and no, taiwan is not represented in the UN. because in the 70s, when china wanted to join the UN, taiwan was in the UN under the name of "china" and because there could only be one "china" in the UN, taiwan, being the smaller country was kicked out. (i hope that wasn't too confusing)

if taiwan will officially declare secession. it would be admitting that they are part of china. and IF they really do, it would be close to 2006 because, as you said, the beijing olympics and the shanghai expo.

[*mipadi*]

and no, taiwan is not represented in the UN.  because in the 70s, when china wanted to join the UN, taiwan was in the UN under the name of "china" and because there could only be one "china" in the UN, taiwan, being the smaller country was kicked out.  (i hope that wasn't too confusing)

It's not quite that easy, although that's the gist of it. More correctly, the Republic of China (aka "Taiwan") was one of the founding members of the UN and held a permanent seat with veto power on the Security Council, like all permanent members. However, by the 1960s, nations friendly to the People's Republic of China (Communist China, aka "China") continually moved to recognize the PRC, not the ROC, as the "real" China. This support was always vetoed by the United States. However, by the late 1960s, the UN had become much less Western-dominated, and support for the ROC began to erode, until 1971, when the General Assembly passed a resolution recognizing the PRC as the legitimate government of China, instead of the ROC. (This was an issue of credentials, not membership, so the Security Council--and, more important, the US and the ROC--could not use their veto power.) After that, the representative from the PRC took the ROC's seat on the Security Council.

[DaTru KataLYST]

It's not quite that easy, although that's the gist of it. More correctly, the Republic of China (aka "Taiwan") was one of the founding members of the UN and held a permanent seat with veto power on the Security Council, like all permanent members. However, by the 1960s, nations friendly to the People's Republic of China (Communist China, aka "China") continually moved to recognize the PRC, not the ROC, as the "real" China. This support was always vetoed by the United States. However, by the late 1960s, the UN had become much less Western-dominated, and support for the ROC began to erode, until 1971, when the General Assembly passed a resolution recognizing the PRC as the legitimate government of China, instead of the ROC. (This was an issue of credentials, not membership, so the Security Council--and, more important, the US and the ROC--could not use their veto power.) After that, the representative from the PRC took the ROC's seat on the Security Council.

sounds like a good ol' backstab to me ;O

I'm politically Chinese, but I've culturally connected w/ China and Taiwan. Taiwan is fun (indeed!), and I think they should be able to be separate and China should just let go of old grudges. I would think the world will view China more diplomatically lovable these days if they said they would be "nice" and let Taiwan go. That's only my opinion, though.

But gosh you know the basketball team whose name is "Chinese Taipei"? My friend wore the jersey to Southern Taiwan. How crazy is that?!!