If you could make a 28th Amendment what would it b |
If you could make a 28th Amendment what would it b |
Sep 18 2005, 05:27 PM
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I was just wondering. So many crazy things are going on in the world today that I became curious as to what some of your beliefs are. If you could make a 28th amendment to the Constitution what would it be?
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Sep 18 2005, 06:39 PM
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I would say that political opinions should be kept out of schools. You can teach politics, but stop adding your opinions.
I say this because I, unlike many of you, am a conservative Republican. Most teachers, however, are liberal pushovers. I swear, what the hell. I don't care if you agree or not, but brainwashing the youth into liberalism? That's a bit wrong in my opinion. |
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Sep 18 2005, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 18 2005, 6:39 PM) I would say that political opinions should be kept out of schools. You can teach politics, but stop adding your opinions. I say this because I, unlike many of you, am a conservative Republican. Most teachers, however, are liberal pushovers. I swear, what the hell. I don't care if you agree or not, but brainwashing the youth into liberalism? That's a bit wrong in my opinion. Don't you mean that brainwashing youth to be conservative rednecks who support slavery and other cruel things is a bit wrong as opposed to letting them know that change is welcome as long as it is good change? If we never changed, we'd still be where we were 100 - 200 yrs. ago. Again...I thought that the US was supposed to be the land of the free. |
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Sep 18 2005, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(kandiapplegrl @ Sep 18 2005, 6:50 PM) Don't you mean that brainwashing youth to be conservative rednecks who support slavery and other cruel things is a bit wrong as opposed to letting them know that change is welcome as long as it is good change? If we never changed, we'd still be where we were 100 - 200 yrs. ago. Again...I thought that the US was supposed to be the land of the free. Don't excite yourself, sunshine. No one's brainwashing the youth to be conservative rednecks. However, most of the teaching population is forcing liberalism down throats. Can you say Columbia? And by good change, do you mean barking insults at the president whenever he so much as farts? Or are you talking about the good caused by bashing America? Ohhh, maybe you meant republican bashing in general, because really, thats like the only thing most liberals do. |
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Sep 18 2005, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 18 2005, 8:04 PM) Don't excite yourself, sunshine. No one's brainwashing the youth to be conservative rednecks. However, most of the teaching population is forcing liberalism down throats. Can you say Columbia? And by good change, do you mean barking insults at the president whenever he so much as farts? Or are you talking about the good caused by bashing America? Ohhh, maybe you meant republican bashing in general, because really, thats like the only thing most liberals do. Well, let's not pretend that Republics don't spend a lot of time bashing liberals--looking over the past several years, that, too, has been happening quite a bit. That's mostly what politics is--trying to one-up the opposition. It's a big reason I stopped studying political science. As for liberal instructors, I don't think teachers are trying to slam politics down anyone's throats. First of all, there's a point where you need to start thinking for yourself; if you disagree with something a teacher says, call them on it. Challenge their views. Just because they state an opinion, doesn't mean they are trying to force anyone to believe it. Besides, the reason that many liberals are teachers and professors is because conservative professionals tend to work in the private sector (where they can make more money, for one thing), and liberal professionals tend to work in academia. |
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Sep 18 2005, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 18 2005, 7:14 PM) Well, let's not pretend that Republics don't spend a lot of time bashing liberals--looking over the past several years, that, too, has been happening quite a bit. That's mostly what politics is--trying to one-up the opposition. It's a big reason I stopped studying political science. As for liberal instructors, I don't think teachers are trying to slam politics down anyone's throats. First of all, there's a point where you need to start thinking for yourself; if you disagree with something a teacher says, call them on it. Challenge their views. Just because they state an opinion, doesn't mean they are trying to force anyone to believe it. Besides, the reason that many liberals are teachers and professors is because conservative professionals tend to work in the private sector (where they can make more money, for one thing), and liberal professionals tend to work in academia. You seem like a smart person. I clap for you. However, many students don't know better. Its what they grow up learning. I actually do challenge my teachers, but they don't really pay attention to it, considering I'm a mere freshman. But other kids aren't active in politics, and are started off listening to the overliberal media and celebrity role-models, and then teachers. Also, a reason why conservatives aren't too common in academics is because they aren't accepted into it. Many schools look for professors with specific points of views. This may be exaggerating a bit, but its like being a black handicapped child in a room of clansmen with pitchforks. A slight feeling tells me you wouldn't be too welcome. Although I'm declared conservative, I do think outside of it occasionally. I'm not 100% conservative, only mostly conservative. I believe that gay marriage should be legal, just like I believe abortion should be legal. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you should restrict it from people who do agree. |
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Sep 18 2005, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 18 2005, 8:27 PM) You seem like a smart person. I clap for you. However, many students don't know better. Its what they grow up learning. Also, a reason why conservatives aren't too common in academics is because they aren't accepted into it. Many schools look for professors with specific points of views. This may be exaggerating a bit, but its like being a black handicapped child in a room of clansmen with pitchforks. A slight feeling tells me you wouldn't be too welcome. I don't think "What's your party affiliation?" is a common question asked when hiring professors. The private-sector point, however, is a major reason. A conservative-minded individual is not going to spend four years as an undergrad and three as a grad student studying, say, economics, only to get his Ph.D. to teach; generally speaking, such an individual is going to go work in the private sector, where there is money to be made. For some reason, liberal-minded professionals tend to be more content earning meager wages and forging a career as a professor (which is one of the most pain-in-the-ass occupations). I think the lack of conservative professors is also reflective of the atmosphere of a college. People aren't going to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year to go to a college where none of the professors hold their viewpoints, which leads to the conclusion that, as a whole, most students are okay with liberal professors, since it's very easy to vote with their wallets if they aren't. Even so, I don't find it a necessity that teachers and professors are completely balanced. Most subjects don't even pertain heavily to politics. At the collegiate level, it's good to hear opposing viewpoints--you're supposed to think for yourself by then, anyway. In middle school or high school, it's a little bit more dangerous, but a child doesn't only hear political views from teachers--he hears them from his parents and pastors as well, among other people. What's wrong with a child hearing all points of view? |
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Sep 18 2005, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 18 2005, 7:35 PM) I don't think "What's your party affiliation?" is a common question asked when hiring professors. The private-sector point, however, is a major reason. A conservative-minded individual is not going to spend four years as an undergrad and three as a grad student studying, say, economics, only to get his Ph.D. to teach; generally speaking, such an individual is going to go work in the private sector, where there is money to be made. For some reason, liberal-minded professionals tend to be more content earning meager wages and forging a career as a professor (which is one of the most pain-in-the-ass occupations). I think the lack of conservative professors is also reflective of the atmosphere of a college. People aren't going to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year to go to a college where none of the professors hold their viewpoints, which leads to the conclusion that, as a whole, most students are okay with liberal professors, since it's very easy to vote with their wallets if they aren't. Even so, I don't find it a necessity that teachers and professors are completely balanced. Most subjects don't even pertain heavily to politics. At the collegiate level, it's good to hear opposing viewpoints--you're supposed to think for yourself by then, anyway. In middle school or high school, it's a little bit more dangerous, but a child doesn't only hear political views from teachers--he hears them from his parents and pastors as well, among other people. What's wrong with a child hearing all points of view? The problem is that the child doesn't hear all the views. We are probably going to be fine with liberal or conservative professors. It won't be a problem for us. However, that doesn't change the fact that many people aren't into politics. They just follow what those around them say. For example, take all the Bush-bashers. Many people say "omg, why can't he just take the troops out?!!!", and know nothing about the situation. That is a brainwashed liberal. Liberalism is not wrong. Conservatism is not wrong. But the fact remains that when being taught by liberals, an influencable person is likely to blindly follow along. My AP World History teacher makes slight remarks about not considering Bush his president and other comments. This doesn't seem like much, but it subliminally puts teens on a path to liberalism. |
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Sep 18 2005, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 18 2005, 8:13 PM) My AP World History teacher makes slight remarks about not considering Bush his president and other comments. This doesn't seem like much, but it subliminally puts teens on a path to liberalism. i think you're using small examples and making them seem larger than life (no offense either). people are screaming that all over (on tv, on the radio, wherever) about not supporting bush as their prez and then there are the people who still support him and are bush lovers. you live in america where people are free to their opinions so they are naturally going to voice them. when your teacher makes that comment I don't think it has as much effect as you think it does. I think that teachers have the right to say their opinions in government classes as long as they don't force them on anyone. to say that a teacher is influencing kids when he makes that one comment is wrong. i think that family, parents, and heck even television has more effect on them. |
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