The Nature of Man, good or bad? Options

[dancerellie714]

sorry if this is already a topic.


Okay. The question presented here is "what is the nature of man?", which basically means...do you think that all mankind is mostly evil or good? Also, are you born good/bad or do your surroundings mold who you are?

good luck with this one

[Spirited Away]

Fae, with the last sentence of the first paragraph, I was being more sarcastic than serious. =]

i know, that's why i "lol-ed" at it. i really did. haha. evil babies. anyway...

I forgot to give the good side of babies. Now I probably sound like some child-hater. I'm not. I love babies. Even when they do commit, um, evil acts with their poop and whatnot, they bring so much joy to people. When they're not screaming their heads off, they're adorable. When they smile and giggle you think you're watching a miracle of life.

Babies can do all these beautiful things, but all of their actions are based on instinct. So even if they're making tons of people happy, they're doing it without their knowing.

Your definition of evil makes sense, but some people apply it to other things. What you might consider to be fine may be evil to other people. What if some mothers truly do think that caring after their babies is torture? Many moms go through post-partum depression, and, okay, I realize it isn't caused entirely by the baby but by the mentality of the mother, but isn't the baby still causing trouble for the mom?

The fact is, the good and bad things babies do are defined by what different people think is good and bad. Babies put no thought into their actions, it's all instinct. And if it does good for someone - so what? And if it tortures someone else - so what? In their minds, they don't care. And therefore, whatever they do cannot be described as "sinful".

so from what i'm understanding, you're saying that babies are evil because they become an inconvenience when they ask for food, change of diapers... etc?

also, if i have a beautiful voice (don't believe it ) and i'm singing to myself but you hear me as you're walking close and decided to stop and listen. i don't know that i have an audience and sing away. my song makes you happy. should i have credit for making you happy by singing the song?

hmm, is it really fine for someone to consider torture a good thing? generally, wouldn't evil be something that harms us physically and mentally on purpose?

now lets get into specifics. since we are discussing the evil nature of human, is it the 'evil' nature babies that causes postpartum depression or should this condition be blamed on the nature of women, who are naturally—genetically and hormonally, proned to postpartum depression?