What if we lived in a Utopian society? |
 Sep 12 2005, 04:08 AM
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I know there is a forum for discussion of books, but this is really about more than the book.
Anyhow. Thanks to the recommendation of a friend, I just got finished reading The Giver. Most of you have probably read it in school. After reading it, it made me wonder what it'd be like to live in a utopian society like that. These people in The Giver had everything in their lives controlled-- their families, what they wore, their jobs, everything. They were brainwashed to not really feel love. They couldn't make choices. They didn't even have marriage or sex! You would simply be matched up with a mate and if you wanted children, you'd have to apply for them. You were only allowed to have two children-- one of each gender-- and they were born from the childbearers in the society. Once the children grew up, you never saw your children or your mate again. Yet, these people were happy this way. Why? Well, one, they were living in oblivion. They knew no other way. But also, they lived without death, war, jealousy, envy, disease, hunger, natural disasters, and so on. Everybody was nice to everybody, nobody was rude, everybody was equal. They had many rules, but the people happily followed them because it kept their society orderly and perfect. So, I guess my question to you is, would you rather our world be perfect like that or would you rather keep it full of death, disease, and murder just so you could make your own choices? Now, I know what you're going to say-- "Oh, but I can't live without love and my choices...blah blah blah.." These people don't know what they're missing. If you were living that way, you wouldn't know either. Put aside all thoughts of you and what'd you want right now. Just think. How the world would be so much better. Right now, we're no sooner to solving world hunger, to bringing peace to our world, or to stopping the murders and rapes occuring all over the world. And you know what? It'll only be 100 times worse in the future! All problems we're faced with would be gone. Yet. The other argument we're faced with is, we'd all be a bunch of human clones. What would be the purpose of life? So, what say you? |
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Sep 12 2005, 04:13 PM
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no need to be perfect...
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Miss Criss What if we lived in a Utopian society? Sep 12 2005, 04:08 AM
snak3y3z1001 death, war, jealousy, envy, disease, hunger, natur... Sep 12 2005, 04:40 AM Miss Criss Are you saying you'd choose those over a perfe... Sep 12 2005, 04:51 AM snak3y3z1001 rather live in a world with
death, war, jealousy,... Sep 12 2005, 05:49 AM incoherent i didnt read that because it was long, but i got t... Sep 12 2005, 01:44 PM iheartsimba I read that book..but like you said..we would just... Sep 12 2005, 01:56 PM Miss Criss But the thing is, you wouldn't realize what ex... Sep 12 2005, 01:58 PM Nightmare_Phoenix if we lived in a utopian world, we'd be screwe... Sep 12 2005, 02:50 PM ROARxD i read the giver; it was a good book :D
if our wo... Sep 12 2005, 03:08 PM mona lisa I think I would live in a Utopian society. If I di... Sep 12 2005, 03:17 PM
Miss Criss QUOTE(gotnoheart @ Sep 12 2005, 2:17 PM)I thi... Sep 12 2005, 03:25 PM mona lisa QUOTE(Miss Criss @ Sep 12 2005, 4:25 PM)Oh, a... Sep 12 2005, 03:28 PM Miss Criss QUOTE(gotnoheart @ Sep 12 2005, 2:28 PM)Shoul... Sep 12 2005, 03:33 PM Cake. yeah, AND they had like pills for their hormones s... Sep 12 2005, 03:30 PM tweeak I have a headache, so I'll save all deep thoug... Sep 12 2005, 03:39 PM Miss Criss I can? It wouldn't let me edit when I tried ea... Sep 12 2005, 03:40 PM tweeak QUOTE(Miss Criss @ Sep 12 2005, 3:40 PM)I can... Sep 12 2005, 03:43 PM mipadi The concept of The Giver, though, is that, while i... Sep 12 2005, 03:40 PM mona lisa QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 12 2005, 4:40 PM)It's ... Sep 12 2005, 03:51 PM omg_melface I'd rather die than live in either one. Sep 12 2005, 03:41 PM Hell-Rell Don't tell me you liked the giver? That book w... Sep 12 2005, 03:56 PM tweeak No, it was neither of the above. You're just d... Sep 12 2005, 03:57 PM `SWTWiNKLE3YES oh i read that book in 7th grade. i think living i... Sep 12 2005, 04:01 PM mipadi Well, I noted this before, but the concept behind ... Sep 12 2005, 04:05 PM Miss Criss But Mipadi, what is perfect? Nearly everything at ... Sep 12 2005, 04:08 PM mipadi QUOTE(Miss Criss @ Sep 12 2005, 5:08 PM)But M... Sep 12 2005, 04:10 PM tweeak Right, that is the point, so you can't really ... Sep 12 2005, 04:11 PM Miss Criss I'm just saying, how can there be a real utopi... Sep 12 2005, 04:13 PM mipadi QUOTE(Miss Criss @ Sep 12 2005, 5:13 PM)I... Sep 12 2005, 04:16 PM Miss Criss But you're saying that if I call it an utopian... Sep 12 2005, 04:19 PM mipadi QUOTE(Miss Criss @ Sep 12 2005, 5:19 PM)But y... Sep 12 2005, 04:22 PM tweeak But this entire subject of utopia is theoretical, ... Sep 12 2005, 04:21 PM Miss Criss But people have tried creating utopian societies i... Sep 12 2005, 04:29 PM x_lilvietdreamer_x this reminds me of this movie i had watch...where ... Sep 12 2005, 04:30 PM mipadi Well, when we discuss "real-world utopias... Sep 12 2005, 04:34 PM tweeak But if it was able to fall apart that quickly, was... Sep 12 2005, 04:35 PM mipadi Are we discussing "real-word utopias" or... Sep 12 2005, 04:37 PM Miss Criss I understand your point, Mipadi. However, the poin... Sep 12 2005, 04:47 PM je like french I'd rather live in the world of The Giver, und... Sep 12 2005, 04:50 PM Miss Criss *claps hands together*
By God, you got the point o... Sep 12 2005, 04:52 PM je like french QUOTE(Miss Criss @ Sep 12 2005, 5:52 PM)*clap... Sep 12 2005, 05:11 PM tweeak QUOTE(je like french @ Sep 12 2005, 5:11 PM)w... Sep 12 2005, 05:24 PM mipadi QUOTE(Miss Criss @ Sep 12 2005, 5:52 PM)*clap... Sep 12 2005, 06:15 PM lilliannnn No, it would be terrible. Obviously, you've re... Sep 12 2005, 05:07 PM Miss Criss Je like french, I declare you my new best friend.
... Sep 12 2005, 05:13 PM Levy2k6 i've never read the Giver and i wouldnt like a... Sep 12 2005, 05:17 PM xcaitlinx i LOVED the giver! i read it back in 7th grade... Sep 12 2005, 05:18 PM mai_z The world would be great as a utopia, if it actual... Sep 12 2005, 05:33 PM Miss Criss You got me there, Mipadi.
I suppose I meant a soc... Sep 12 2005, 06:21 PM mai_z I think if I was born into The Giver (the book...l... Sep 12 2005, 06:29 PM Miss Criss *falls over laughing*
Yeah, I wouldn't fancy t... Sep 12 2005, 06:33 PM hall0w id rahter go to north korea Sep 12 2005, 07:46 PM Blue-Chan Though this does sound alittle bit like how it is ... Sep 12 2005, 08:46 PM Miss Criss How does it sound like today? Last time I checked,... Sep 13 2005, 01:38 AM aznxdreamer i would kill myself if i lived in a world like tha... Sep 13 2005, 08:30 PM |
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