is bush at fault? |
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is bush at fault? |
| *tweeak* |
Sep 1 2005, 09:20 PM
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to begin with, i'd like to point out that I do not support Bush. However, I cannot understand why people are blaming him for Katrina, just because he has troops in Iraq. It seems like a lame excuse to protest the war and find a scapegoat for the hurricane
so, do you think Bush is at fault for part of the Katrina ordeal? |
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| *mipadi* |
Sep 3 2005, 01:49 AM
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I came across a fairly interesting article that seems relevant:
"Virtually everything that has happened in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina struck was predicted by experts and in computer models, so emergency management specialists wonder why authorities were so unprepared. "'The scenario of a major hurricane hitting New Orleans was well anticipated, predicted and drilled around,' said Clare Rubin, an emergency management consultant who also teaches at the Institute for Crisis, Disaster, and Risk Management at George Washington University. "Computer models developed at Louisiana State University and other institutions made detailed projections of what would happen if water flowed over the levees protecting the city or if they failed." [1] "But Louisiana State University engineer Joseph Suhayda and others have warned for years that defenses could fail. In 2002, the New Orleans Times Picayune published a five-part series on 'The Big One' examining what might happen if they did. "It predicted that 200,000 people or more would be unwilling or unable to heed evacuation orders and thousands would die, that people would be housed in the Superdome, that aid workers would find it difficult to gain access to the city as roads became impassable, as well as many other of the consequences that actually unfolded after Katrina hit this week." [2] A lot of the problems just seem to be more government bureaucracy. The article notes that FEMA has become so ineffectual because it is now a part of the Department of Homeland Security (the largest department in the US government), and is considered unimportant by many in DHS. (FEMA used to be an independent agency.) |
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tweeak is bush at fault? Sep 1 2005, 09:20 PM
mipadi No, I think meteorological systems are.
Oh, and w... Sep 1 2005, 09:30 PM
pandamonium i feel so sorry for the people down there, but how... Sep 1 2005, 09:44 PM
hall0w well its not only bush its probably ur parents too... Sep 1 2005, 09:48 PM
mipadi I don't know if one can associate global warmi... Sep 1 2005, 09:52 PM
pandamonium QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 1 2005, 9:52 PM)I don... Sep 1 2005, 09:55 PM
disco infiltrator Well, New Orleans is sinking, but Venice is too. I... Sep 1 2005, 10:08 PM
xcaitlinx Of course he was. The government freakin knew that... Sep 1 2005, 11:03 PM
ermfermoo QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:03 PM)Of cours... Sep 1 2005, 11:10 PM
medic QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 10:03 PM)Of cours... Sep 3 2005, 12:43 PM
tweeak QUOTE(medic @ Sep 3 2005, 12:43 PM)Bush can n... Sep 3 2005, 12:47 PM
xcaitlinx Where are all of them going to come from? Hmm...is... Sep 1 2005, 11:12 PM
ermfermoo Honestly, do you really think that this entire thi... Sep 1 2005, 11:14 PM
xcaitlinx proof? i've been watching CNN and Fox all day.... Sep 1 2005, 11:15 PM
ermfermoo Not proof that there is a disaster there. Proof th... Sep 1 2005, 11:15 PM
xcaitlinx Of course there was no way to PREVENT the hurrican... Sep 1 2005, 11:17 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:17 PM)Of cours... Sep 2 2005, 10:17 AM
ermfermoo There was planning ahead. Its just that what they ... Sep 1 2005, 11:20 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:20 PM)Its su... Sep 1 2005, 11:25 PM
xcaitlinx So you're excusing the government because they... Sep 1 2005, 11:21 PM
ermfermoo QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:21 PM)So you... Sep 1 2005, 11:21 PM
mipadi QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 2 2005, 12:21 AM)So you... Sep 2 2005, 01:04 AM
jooleeah Obviously it's not Bush's fault. My reason... Sep 2 2005, 02:37 PM
tweeak no, not so much. after hearing people discuss the ... Sep 1 2005, 11:27 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(tweeak @ Sep 1 2005, 11:27 PM)no, not s... Sep 1 2005, 11:28 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi)Well, what exactly was the government... Sep 2 2005, 08:04 AM
tweeak That's not the government, it's our f**ked... Sep 1 2005, 11:33 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(tweeak @ Sep 1 2005, 11:33 PM)That... Sep 1 2005, 11:34 PM

tweeak QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:34 PM)What do ... Sep 1 2005, 11:36 PM

xcaitlinx QUOTE(tweeak @ Sep 1 2005, 11:36 PM)that peop... Sep 1 2005, 11:37 PM
starlette QUOTE(tweeak @ Sep 1 2005, 11:33 PM)That... Sep 2 2005, 01:31 AM
ermfermoo QUOTE(karamelle @ Sep 2 2005, 1:31 AM)exactly... Sep 2 2005, 07:41 PM
pandamonium QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:17 PM)Our coun... Sep 1 2005, 11:33 PM
WhiteLotus* The weather is to blame, of course. I don't th... Sep 1 2005, 11:34 PM
xcaitlinx ^ exactly. I can't understand why people would... Sep 1 2005, 11:35 PM
pandamonium QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:35 PM)^ exactl... Sep 1 2005, 11:38 PM
xcaitlinx i almost wanted to cry when i saw all of the elder... Sep 1 2005, 11:39 PM
pandamonium QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:39 PM)i almost... Sep 1 2005, 11:41 PM
Teesa QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 1 2005, 11:39 PM)i almost... Sep 2 2005, 06:13 PM
mipadi QUOTE(Teesa @ Sep 2 2005, 7:13 PM)It's on... Sep 2 2005, 07:11 PM
Teesa QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 2 2005, 7:11 PM)Well, it... Sep 3 2005, 01:12 AM
mipadi QUOTE(Teesa @ Sep 3 2005, 2:12 AM)I never sai... Sep 3 2005, 01:20 AM
Teesa QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 3 2005, 1:20 AM)Well, you ... Sep 3 2005, 01:28 AM
tweeak I think there's a slight lack of psychics in o... Sep 1 2005, 11:40 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(tweeak @ Sep 1 2005, 11:40 PM)I think t... Sep 1 2005, 11:42 PM
pandamonium ^ with all this happeneing it just makes it seem l... Sep 1 2005, 11:44 PM
M1SSxCHR1SSY Of course he's not at fault. How could he be? ... Sep 2 2005, 02:09 AM
xcaitlinx You have to remember that a lot of the people COUL... Sep 2 2005, 09:34 AM
CuddleWitCathy QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 2 2005, 10:34 AM)You have... Sep 2 2005, 09:51 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 2 2005, 9:34 AM)You have ... Sep 2 2005, 10:04 AM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 2 2005, 10:04 AM)Then w... Sep 2 2005, 10:29 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 2 2005, 10:29 AM)But you ... Sep 2 2005, 10:39 AM
tweeak QUOTE(caytexo @ Sep 2 2005, 9:34 AM)You have ... Sep 2 2005, 02:20 PM
starlette I was watching something on the weather channel th... Sep 2 2005, 02:28 PM
antix10_kos I don't blame Bush for the hurricane happening... Sep 2 2005, 02:42 PM
Kristinaa ^ They gotta get everyone out. They're in the ... Sep 2 2005, 06:30 PM
insomniac QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 2 20... Sep 2 2005, 07:39 PM
Kristinaa ^ I was just about to say that.
How exactly is it... Sep 2 2005, 07:26 PM
c0cONuTTeR This is too much. This is not right. They gave a... Sep 2 2005, 07:43 PM
insomniac ^ok seriously, we can only do so much. people are ... Sep 2 2005, 07:46 PM
c0cONuTTeR Bush needs to give more than 16 billion because he... Sep 2 2005, 07:49 PM
Kristinaa QUOTE(c0cONuTTeR @ Sep 2 2005, 7:49 PM)Bush n... Sep 2 2005, 08:07 PM
insomniac but those people wait for buses for 20 hours, then... Sep 2 2005, 08:01 PM
sadolakced acid well, we have to consider that the national guard ... Sep 2 2005, 08:17 PM
Kristinaa ^ no offense, but I really dont think it'd mak... Sep 2 2005, 08:24 PM
c0cONuTTeR They have more options but they're so dumb the... Sep 2 2005, 08:37 PM
insomniac ^did you read anything i said? come over to housto... Sep 2 2005, 08:38 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(insomniac @ Sep 2 2005, 8:38 PM)^did yo... Sep 2 2005, 09:38 PM
c0cONuTTeR QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 2 2005, 10:38 PM)... Sep 2 2005, 09:40 PM
ermfermoo Insomniac, you sound like a smart person. You... Sep 2 2005, 08:39 PM
insomniac QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 2 2005, 8:39 PM)Insomni... Sep 2 2005, 08:49 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 2 20... Sep 2 2005, 08:40 PM
c0cONuTTeR Well actually I don't live very close to the a... Sep 2 2005, 09:30 PM
Kristinaa QUOTE(c0cONuTTeR @ Sep 2 2005, 9:30 PM)Well a... Sep 2 2005, 09:38 PM
insomniac well, how can you talk about the situation in hous... Sep 2 2005, 09:35 PM
insomniac im getting compliments for my non-a-hole-ness... Sep 2 2005, 09:50 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 2 20... Sep 2 2005, 10:12 PM
Kristinaa QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 2 2005, 10:12 PM)... Sep 2 2005, 10:25 PM

xcaitlinx QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 2 20... Sep 2 2005, 10:35 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 2 2005, 11:12 PM)... Sep 3 2005, 10:36 AM
xcaitlinx I watched the news throughout the day and i'm ... Sep 2 2005, 10:22 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura It's not Bush's fault. Is there a way to c... Sep 2 2005, 10:37 PM
xcaitlinx ^ talking about iraq is off-topic...and that sente... Sep 2 2005, 10:40 PM
disco infiltrator *sigh*
New Orleans has some pretty poor parts of ... Sep 2 2005, 10:54 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(headphones @ Sep 2 2005, 10:54 PM)*sigh... Sep 2 2005, 10:57 PM
Im So Vain QUOTE(headphones @ Sep 2 2005, 7:54 PM)*sigh*... Sep 3 2005, 02:08 AM
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I agree with wh... Sep 2 2005, 10:56 PM
Kristinaa QUOTE(nightmare4taki @ Sep 2 2005, 10:56 PM)h... Sep 3 2005, 12:12 AM
nightmare4taki ^ Mike Myers was looking at Kanye Like STFU. Im go... Sep 3 2005, 12:55 AM
pandamonium OMG I JUST WATCHED IT. that is so crazy. lol kanye... Sep 3 2005, 01:27 AM
jEllyBeaNs i dont think bush is at fault, but he is not doing... Sep 3 2005, 01:51 AM
SillyCourtney QUOTE"If we can't respond faster than thi... Sep 3 2005, 02:39 AM
ermfermoo QUOTE(jEllyBeaNs @ Sep 3 2005, 1:51 AM)i dont... Sep 3 2005, 09:04 AM
xcaitlinx ^ i truly don't understand why these people wo... Sep 3 2005, 10:11 AM
tweeak No, niether do we. Or anyone else remotely sane. Sep 3 2005, 10:18 AM
c0cONuTTeR Haha at the end that whole "george bush doesn... Sep 3 2005, 10:48 AM
insomniac about the whole helicopter thing:
its just like i... Sep 3 2005, 11:37 AM
tweeak ^um, 800 or so mainly women or children died on a ... Sep 3 2005, 11:50 AM
insomniac didnt know that....
other places need help beside... Sep 3 2005, 11:54 AM![]() ![]() |