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should schools be allowed to start before 8AM?
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post Aug 27 2005, 06:13 PM
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I'm going to attempt to use this as a topic for a persuasive essay, but before we can get the topics approved, we have to basically debate with the teacher on it, so I'd like to be prepared for some of the arguements I'll be up against. Please provide thoughtful reasoning on your opinion, as to why it's important for schools to begin at one time or another
 
 
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:18 PM
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Here's the opinion part of my reply:

From grades 8-11, my school started at 7:30 am and got out at 2:50 pm. I had to get up at 5:30 to catch the bus. I'd come home and crash most of the time, esp. if I didn't get to nap in my morning classes....my performance did suffer, but I don't blame it wholy on lack of sleep either...

Now, I think that are alternatives to starting school so early in the day:

1) Start Later.

Wow, there's a simple one. How about switching start dates for elem. and secondary. schools? Well, this was actually considered in the district where I attended high school. It was shot down because of extra-curricular activities. If our high school didn't get out until 3:45, then our practices would be delayed and transportation to away events would clash with rush hour and chances are, it would mess with the scheduling of events since other districts in our area let out around 3:00. Also, a lot of secondary students watch younger siblings after school and not having them home to do so would put unnecessary strain on families and schools.

2) 4-Day Schedules

This is an actual solution right here: 4 Day Week. That's the whole document, for those who want to read it unchopped. Jump To The Research and Articles Section. There's the meat of you want to know. Now, how does this 4-Day Week help with early start times? The students generally have to go to school an extra 90 minutes a day to make it work...but think about it. A whole day off? 3 day weekends every weekend? A slew of optional programs that could help with educational process and make it easier for students to recieve tutoring and make up work and tests?? It's also been shown to help cash strapped districts cut costs. Families get more time to spend together, it's easier to schedule appointments, and secondary students can sleep in.

3) Flex Schedules

This was and is being discussed in the district where I attended high school and my nieces still attend school there. It would only be an option for secondary students, though. I think right now it is still in the formative stages for the high school because the hs in my hometown is hellishly overcrowded. Basically, students could choose whether to attend school from 6am to 1pm or from 11am to 5pm. Students could add extra hours if they wanted or they could take only the minimum depending on how many credits they need. They could choose to take classes as blocks or single hours and could work community service hours, tutoring and sports and band practices in during the day. It would also help facilitate work release, college release, and personal appointments. It's also been suggested that it could help cut transportation costs and other expenses, but it's been tied up in legislation for awhile here.


As you see, if schools are really interested in thinking outside of the box or desperate, they can come up with creative solutions to their problems.
 

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tweeak   should schools be allowed to start before 8AM?   Aug 27 2005, 06:13 PM
dahalfkoreanstyl   no for basically two reasons off the top of my hea...   Aug 27 2005, 06:40 PM
RiC3xBoy   Yes, the school should be able to decide when it s...   Aug 28 2005, 12:45 AM
sadolakced acid   no. schools traditionally start early because of...   Aug 28 2005, 12:54 AM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 27 2005, 10:54 PM...   Aug 28 2005, 01:11 AM
HoodieObsessed   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 27 2005, 9:54 PM)...   Sep 4 2005, 05:42 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ this, however, has been proven to lower congi...   Aug 28 2005, 01:16 AM
RiC3xBoy   Early or not, many students face stress in their e...   Aug 28 2005, 01:20 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 28 2005, 1:20 AM)Early o...   Aug 28 2005, 03:24 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 28 2005, 12:24 PM...   Aug 28 2005, 04:58 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 28 2005, 1:24 PM)...   Aug 28 2005, 05:22 PM
andromeda_90   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 28 2005, 5:22 PM)Facts y...   Aug 28 2005, 05:24 PM
TwistMe   My school already starts before 8 AM. It starts at...   Aug 28 2005, 01:30 AM
ApocalypseAelis   ^Is your name Alice? o_O My name is Alice too. ...   Aug 28 2005, 02:33 AM
haleakala1   My school starts at 8 am but I wouldn't mind i...   Aug 28 2005, 03:00 AM
insomniac   my school starts at 7:45 10 minutes earlier than l...   Aug 28 2005, 05:05 PM
andromeda_90   If you think about it schools that start before 8 ...   Aug 28 2005, 05:15 PM
dahalfkoreanstyl   more time sitting in rush hour, more gas wasted, m...   Aug 28 2005, 06:44 PM
andromeda_90   The time when school begins is like I said, the sc...   Aug 28 2005, 07:40 PM
tweeak   that's not entirely true. besides which, this ...   Aug 28 2005, 08:37 PM
sadolakced acid   wow, thanks for throwing my facts right back at me...   Aug 28 2005, 08:38 PM
Paradox of Life   Schools do start before 8 AM and there's nothi...   Aug 28 2005, 09:06 PM
tweeak   we start at 7:15 and will still have some before s...   Aug 28 2005, 09:06 PM
mai_z   [QUOTEFacts you say? Well then, if high schools we...   Aug 28 2005, 09:10 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 28 2005, 6:38 PM)...   Aug 29 2005, 12:06 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 29 2005, 12:06 AM)1. Sch...   Aug 29 2005, 07:39 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 29 2005, 5:39 PM)...   Aug 29 2005, 08:06 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 29 2005, 8:06 PM)If that...   Aug 29 2005, 08:21 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 29 2005, 6:21 PM)...   Aug 29 2005, 11:36 PM
andromeda_90   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 29 2005, 12:06 AM)1. Sch...   Aug 30 2005, 11:48 AM
mai_z   QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Aug 30 2005, 11:48 AM)Th...   Aug 30 2005, 03:12 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(mai_z @ Aug 30 2005, 1:12 PM)Asumming y...   Aug 30 2005, 05:25 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(mai_z @ Aug 28 2005, 9:10 PM)I went to ...   Aug 30 2005, 05:39 PM
xcaitlinx   definitely not. i think that high school should st...   Aug 28 2005, 11:23 PM
racoons > you   ^ well, you are, mainly because you're using ...   Aug 30 2005, 11:28 AM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(racoons > you @ Aug 30 2005, 9:28 AM...   Aug 30 2005, 01:06 PM
antix10_kos   Here's the opinion part of my reply: From gra...   Aug 30 2005, 12:18 PM
Jeng   it should ..min estarts at 7:30 ends at 2 somethin...   Aug 30 2005, 03:14 PM
sadolakced acid   up to 5 % of teenagers are thought to have an abno...   Aug 30 2005, 07:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 30 2005, 7:27 PM)...   Aug 30 2005, 10:18 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 30 2005, 8:27 PM)...   Aug 31 2005, 03:15 PM
L!ckitySplit   haha thats how i feel on some days ^ but usuall...   Aug 30 2005, 10:53 PM
yellowgurl   No, because most students have lack of sleep alrea...   Aug 31 2005, 01:00 AM
tweeak   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 30 2005, 10:18 PM)w...   Aug 31 2005, 03:08 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(tweeak @ Aug 31 2005, 3:08 PM)no, i...   Aug 31 2005, 04:02 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 31 2005, 4:02 PM)ar...   Aug 31 2005, 04:13 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(tweeak @ Aug 31 2005, 4:13 PM)no, gifte...   Aug 31 2005, 10:36 PM
iNyCxShoRT   I'd rather have school start before 8, so you ...   Aug 31 2005, 04:05 PM
Funky Buddha   Helllll Noooo!!! I don't wake up ...   Aug 31 2005, 04:11 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 31 2005, 3:15 PM)Is this m...   Aug 31 2005, 06:53 PM
tweeak   I actually knew that somewhat, because at one poin...   Sep 1 2005, 02:26 PM
emazing   No, not really. School for us begins at 8:30 A.M.,...   Sep 3 2005, 08:55 PM
CallMeJealousy   In August, researchers at the University of Minnes...   Sep 4 2005, 05:36 PM
Levy2k6   hmm... I NEVER STARTED SCHOOL AFTER 8:00 AM... or...   Sep 4 2005, 11:23 PM
r05esarred   School starts at 7:30 for me. bleh. i hate waking ...   Sep 7 2005, 06:43 PM
Rikkiismyname   I think that the earlier that schools start the be...   Sep 12 2005, 10:26 PM
tweeak   Does anyone actually care about this debate, or ca...   Sep 19 2005, 08:45 PM
sadolakced acid   just leave it in case someone wants to post a topi...   Sep 19 2005, 09:50 PM
archana   Why not? My school starts @ 8:30, but the highscho...   Sep 20 2005, 05:50 PM
yanners   personally, i don't really care. because scho...   Sep 24 2005, 06:51 AM
BrokenDream   My opinion would be no. Students, including me, a...   Sep 25 2005, 12:18 AM
VarsMOlta   helllllll nooooooooooooooooo.. kids got enough h...   Sep 25 2005, 12:29 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(VarsMOlta @ Sep 25 2005, 12:29 AM)kids ...   Sep 28 2005, 11:31 AM
lolita kitty   should they be allowed to? yes. in fact, my little...   Sep 25 2005, 09:58 AM
tweeak   QUOTE(lolita kitty @ Sep 25 2005, 9:58 AM)sho...   Sep 25 2005, 01:57 PM
dahoonpride   no....no point of going to school early and not ge...   Sep 25 2005, 10:21 AM
Blackhorn   My school starts at 7:30 am. I'm so tired ...   Oct 7 2005, 07:39 PM
xl0stxThoughtx   no, 8AM is good.   Oct 10 2005, 10:20 AM


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