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9/11 movies
*kryogenix*
post Aug 17 2005, 03:10 PM
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Oh man. They better not screw this up. Documentaries are fine (except for movies like Fahrenheit 9/11). If they make a love story, I'm going to be pissed. I have a feeling some of them are just exploiting 9/11. They better not have a political message. I have a bad feeling the Oliver Stone is going to screw this up. And if they bash the United States, or justify the attacks in any way, I'm going to be pissed.
 
 
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LordAwesome
post Aug 24 2005, 06:57 PM
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Well, you argue back and fourth so fervently. Darn conservatives and dastardly liberals. Let's take a look at each group. Basically, by simple definition, conservative means that you are against change, and liberal means you embrace change, looking forward to new things.

Now, logically looking at these 2 groups with no bias, I think that it is easy to see, on a political level, that the liberal view is a more beneficial one.

Realistically, however, it has come down to this. The conservatives carry religious connotations, and have their own form of unattractive fanaticism.

The liberals tend to get the fanaticism, violent, trouble making rep. But let's also look at some assemblies of people. Look into recent gatherings of people and look at the results. People have remained peaceful, but the police presence has become rather aggressive, oppressive, and forceful.

It seems to me that a lot of our rights are being slowly scared out of us. The right to a peaceful assembly, a.k.a. protest, has been suppressed by very aggressive police actions against protesters, under unjust circumstances. People want less and less to speak out against our government.

Criticism is very important in any system, and should never be suppressed, as long as it can be justified. It definitely plays a very strong part in positive development. We just can't forget that this is OUR country; Us being the people!

Oh, 9/11. There are many very interesting facts, and some very obvious observations that make the official statements on the incident rather...questionable. Two main examples are what I like to call, "The Pentagon and the Plane".

First, there is the pentagon. The highway, near the pentagon, that the plane would have flew over was in no way disturbed. Now, a plane that size flying over that highway would have tossed cars over quite easily. Next, well, the lawn in front of the pentagon was... oddly intact. The amount of wreckage was questionable, and the holes were just too perfect.

Of note in all of this, is the fact that Cheney just happened to have the jets that would have been scrambled to protect the Pentagon out doing practice runs in the middle of nowhere. Also, he had troops stationed in New York, practicing "relief efforts" which they just so happened to have needed for that day.

Providence? Coincidence? I say suspicious, or peculiar, at least

Now, on to the plane that went down. There was a call made from that plane and the hijacker was spoken of. He was not referred to as middle eastern, nor anything you would expect if the scenario were to play out as it supposedly did. The person who made the call was also a reporter, I believe, so they would have paid attention to detail.

Another obvious observation was that on top of all that, the planes hit the towers at a time when people were just coming in for work. If this was a devious plot that people who absolutely hated us had planned for years, don't you think they would kill as many people as possible?

I also want to remind everyone that the evidence shows that 9/11 and Iraq have no direct correlation, but I hear it said all too often that we are in Iraq because of 9/11. I guess when the real reason is a lie, people who support the liar tend to quickly forget, and fabricate some other extravagant, justifiable reason to kill women, children, and the people fighting to protect their beliefs. Beliefs that we have no right to challenge...but hey, that's just my opinion.

If you read any of their literature, you'd see that starting a war with them was a bad idea. Bush only seems to read children's books, though. Maybe he should read the real Aladdin.

As far as movies go, everyone has a right to present information from their viewpoint. You all choose, as people weather or not to accept it. It all depends on your political stance, and your perception though I suppose.

These are just a few thoughts about the topic and events. I guess that's really all I have to say about that for now, thanks for your time
 

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kryogenix   9/11 movies   Aug 17 2005, 03:10 PM
Kristinaa   Question: What the hell are you talking about?   Aug 17 2005, 03:11 PM
kryogenix   I guess you haven't seen the news. http://www...   Aug 17 2005, 03:12 PM
Kristinaa   AWW HELL NO! Hollywood + anything political =...   Aug 17 2005, 03:14 PM
yellowgurl   QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Aug 17 2...   Aug 18 2005, 01:38 AM
aera   i like the documentaries, like the flight that fou...   Aug 17 2005, 08:48 PM
sadolakced acid   aww pooh. if you can let hollywood make a movie a...   Aug 17 2005, 11:56 PM
kryogenix   The questions: 1) Are we ready for movies based on...   Aug 18 2005, 06:55 AM
The Voice   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 18 2005, 6:55 AM)How ca...   Aug 18 2005, 08:59 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(The Voice @ Aug 18 2005, 8:59 AM)Every ...   Aug 22 2005, 08:03 AM
The Voice   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 22 2005, 8:03 AM)If a d...   Aug 22 2005, 09:42 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 22 2005, 9:03 AM)1. Fah...   Aug 22 2005, 01:56 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 22 2005, 1:56 PM)How is it...   Aug 23 2005, 10:38 AM
helllla jankyyyy   I hope its not a love story. Come on.   Aug 18 2005, 12:00 AM
illumineering   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 17 2005, 4:10 PM)Oh man...   Aug 18 2005, 02:29 AM
napoleon034   QUOTE(illumineering @ Aug 18 2005, 2:29 AM)Wh...   Aug 18 2005, 03:15 PM
illumineering   The "truth" you refer to is a matter of ...   Aug 18 2005, 06:59 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Aug 18 2005, 6:59 AM)Th...   Aug 18 2005, 07:05 AM
illumineering   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 18 2005, 8:05 AM)The tr...   Aug 18 2005, 07:14 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(illumineering @ Aug 18 2005, 7:14 AM)No...   Aug 18 2005, 08:04 AM
SkaironFrenzy   i bet they're going to say its g. bush's f...   Aug 18 2005, 03:58 PM
The Voice   QUOTE(SkaironFrenzy @ Aug 18 2005, 3:58 PM)i ...   Aug 19 2005, 10:02 AM
napoleon034   QUOTE(The Voice @ Aug 19 2005, 10:02 AM)See, ...   Aug 19 2005, 11:52 AM
The Voice   QUOTE(napoleon034 @ Aug 19 2005, 11:52 AM)Rec...   Aug 19 2005, 12:07 PM
Kristinaa   Ah blah blah, I really gotta stop coming in here. ...   Aug 22 2005, 06:24 PM
disco infiltrator   1. You may not like Fahrenheit 911, but it is true...   Aug 19 2005, 02:18 PM
zepfel   just take the film with a pinch of salt... it...   Aug 19 2005, 07:33 PM
disco infiltrator   Saying George Bush is a hero for going to war is p...   Aug 22 2005, 05:43 PM
mipadi   I think it's going a bit far to say that any c...   Aug 23 2005, 03:28 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 23 2005, 3:28 PM)I think i...   Aug 23 2005, 06:42 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ and farenheit 9/11 was all lies?   Aug 23 2005, 08:37 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 23 2005, 8:37 PM)...   Aug 24 2005, 07:57 AM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 24 2005, 7:57 AM)It had...   Aug 24 2005, 09:33 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(caytexo @ Aug 24 2005, 9:33 AM)And, exa...   Aug 24 2005, 10:20 AM
Kristinaa   QUOTE(caytexo @ Aug 24 2005, 9:33 AM)And, exa...   Aug 25 2005, 07:24 PM
mipadi   Fahrenheit 9/11 isn't a documentary, but it is...   Aug 24 2005, 11:18 AM
The Voice   I'm not going to get heated about this…but Mic...   Aug 24 2005, 11:21 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 24 2005, 11:18 AM)Fahrenhe...   Aug 24 2005, 11:59 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 24 2005, 12:59 PM)Yeah,...   Aug 24 2005, 03:53 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 24 2005, 3:53 PM)So at wha...   Aug 25 2005, 08:36 AM
disco infiltrator   Michael Moore didn't lie. He used hard facts i...   Aug 24 2005, 04:32 PM
LordAwesome   Well, you argue back and fourth so fervently. Darn...   Aug 24 2005, 06:57 PM
sandy_lumpy_shore   i agree with you. documentries are nice but when ...   Aug 24 2005, 07:09 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(sandy_lumpy_shore @ Aug 24 2005, 7:09 P...   Aug 24 2005, 07:45 PM
xklipse   ah geez, I knew they gonna make a movie the second...   Aug 24 2005, 07:10 PM
sadolakced acid   of course farenheit 9/11 was extrodinarily one sid...   Aug 24 2005, 07:46 PM
xcaitlinx   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 24 2005, 7:46 PM)...   Aug 24 2005, 07:50 PM
disco infiltrator   Fahrenheit 9/11 was a movie about current events a...   Aug 25 2005, 03:35 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 25 2005, 3:35 PM)Fahre...   Aug 26 2005, 06:19 AM
sadolakced acid   ^^(two up) like the fact that the third plane fle...   Aug 26 2005, 07:54 PM
Kristinaa   Oh damn. I did forget about the 4th. Blah. But s...   Aug 27 2005, 03:22 PM


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