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| *kryogenix* |
Aug 17 2005, 03:10 PM
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Oh man. They better not screw this up. Documentaries are fine (except for movies like Fahrenheit 9/11). If they make a love story, I'm going to be pissed. I have a feeling some of them are just exploiting 9/11. They better not have a political message. I have a bad feeling the Oliver Stone is going to screw this up. And if they bash the United States, or justify the attacks in any way, I'm going to be pissed.
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Aug 17 2005, 11:56 PM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
aww pooh. if you can let hollywood make a movie about the crucifiction of christ, let them make a movie about 9/11.
i, for one, hae been waiting for one, and i hope it pays tribute to the unsung heros (as well as the sung ones, you know). |
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| *kryogenix* |
Aug 18 2005, 06:55 AM
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The questions: 1) Are we ready for movies based on 9/11? 2) Do you think Hollywood is exploiting the issue?
QUOTE(ilumineering) What are you complaining about? Michael Moore and Oliver Stone are nothing alike. I don't understand your beef w/ Farenheit 9/11. Why can't he make a documentary that's based on his perspective of the issue? If you don't like it, don't bring it up. Why are you anticipating being pissed? The film isn't even out yet. This seems more like a rant as opposed to a debatable issue. How can you not understand my beef with F. 9/11? It was a propaganda film. If I don't like it, why shouldn't I bring it up? I'm warning people to look out for BS. And it's not like I said I'm not even going to give the film a chance. I probably will watch it to form my own opinion. It's just that if the reviews say it's political, or it distorts what really happened, then I will not like it. QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 17 2005, 11:56 PM) aww pooh. if you can let hollywood make a movie about the crucifiction of christ, let them make a movie about 9/11. i, for one, hae been waiting for one, and i hope it pays tribute to the unsung heros (as well as the sung ones, you know). How are you going to screw up the crucifixion of Christ, all the details are pretty much set in stone? I don't mind a movie about 9/11. I'm looking forward to see National Geographic's documentary on it (They're spending 4 hours on it). But if any of these films warp the truth, it's not good. And the fact that Oliver Stone is behind the scenes in one of these movies worries me. They've announced that the film is not going to be political, but his JFK movie and some of the quotes he said after 9/11 scare me. |
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Aug 18 2005, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 18 2005, 6:55 AM) How can you not understand my beef with F. 9/11? It was a propaganda film. Every film that mentions America in it, on some level or another…is a propoganda film. The Captain America comic books were propoganda. This was simply one of the first times that a documentary was made opposing the current leader of our country. I'm not going to go into my stance on the film and it's merit..because that's irrelevant...but of course it's propoganda. The point of a documentary is to make someone see things from the perspective of the director/writer. He stressed his views, and take them how you like. That's the point of it. I also hope that they don't screw up the 9/11 movie. And you're right, with Oliver stone it's a possibility. I just pray that it's not another Pearl Harbor. Also, I think it's a bit premature to write the film...and for it to have any merit...because it seems like there is still a great deal of investigation ongoing. If they are to simply focus on the act itself, and the people who's lives were destroyed...that's fine...and on the firemen and police officers that sacrificed their lives...then once again...that's wonderful. But I hope it doesn't become a political thing. I hope that they don't make claims that will nto truly be proven or disproven for another 10 to 20 years. |
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| *kryogenix* |
Aug 22 2005, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(The Voice @ Aug 18 2005, 8:59 AM) Every film that mentions America in it, on some level or another…is a propoganda film. The Captain America comic books were propoganda. This was simply one of the first times that a documentary was made opposing the current leader of our country. I'm not going to go into my stance on the film and it's merit..because that's irrelevant...but of course it's propoganda. The point of a documentary is to make someone see things from the perspective of the director/writer. He stressed his views, and take them how you like. That's the point of it. I also hope that they don't screw up the 9/11 movie. And you're right, with Oliver stone it's a possibility. I just pray that it's not another Pearl Harbor. Also, I think it's a bit premature to write the film...and for it to have any merit...because it seems like there is still a great deal of investigation ongoing. If they are to simply focus on the act itself, and the people who's lives were destroyed...that's fine...and on the firemen and police officers that sacrificed their lives...then once again...that's wonderful. But I hope it doesn't become a political thing. I hope that they don't make claims that will nto truly be proven or disproven for another 10 to 20 years. If a documentary maker wants to make money from a documentary he's making, he'd avoid using misleading statements, controversy, and a political agenda. Reading more into it, I don't think there will be any "Pearl Harbor" type films with a love story and what not. QUOTE 1. You may not like Fahrenheit 911, but it is true, from that perspective. You don't agree and that's fine. Michael Moore expressed himself. I roll my eyes when one of George Bush's speeches interrupts the Daily Show, but that doesn't mean whatever he says is untruthful - I just don't agree. 2. Many people will be ecstatic about the 9/11 movie, probably. It'll show the "heroes" in a good light, making them out to have saved millions of people or something. Personally, I don't think much heroism was done since so many people were not saved, and that may not be others' opinion but oh well, it's mine. It's a movie, of course it's not gonna show anyone but the terrorists in a bad light. That's what happens. Oh well. Don't go see it. 1. Fahrenheit 9/11 is pretty misleading, if not untruthful. Just type in fahrenheit 9/11 lies in a search engine. There are exaggerations and outright lies in that movie. The movie was made to push an agenda, not to educate the masses about an issue in an unobjective manner. The fact that it's helping the terrorists is even worse. 2. Again, I will repeat, I do not mind a 9/11 movie as long as it remains truthful and properly respects that day and those that died on it. |
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| *mipadi* |
Aug 22 2005, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 22 2005, 9:03 AM) 1. Fahrenheit 9/11 is pretty misleading, if not untruthful. Just type in fahrenheit 9/11 lies in a search engine. There are exaggerations and outright lies in that movie. The movie was made to push an agenda, not to educate the masses about an issue in an unobjective manner. The fact that it's helping the terrorists is even worse. How is it "helping the terrorists"? |
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| *kryogenix* |
Aug 23 2005, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 22 2005, 1:56 PM) Well, it's undermining the war effort. Bin Laden has used pieces from Fahrenheit 9/11 in his speeches. QUOTE Saying George Bush is a hero for going to war is pretty misleading in my eyes too. And yea, how in the WORLD is it HELPING TERRORISTS? What 9/11 movie has said George Bush is a hero? And I don't think the movies should go too deeply into the war on terror. I want them to talk about 9/11. |
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kryogenix 9/11 movies Aug 17 2005, 03:10 PM
Kristinaa Question: What the hell are you talking about? Aug 17 2005, 03:11 PM
kryogenix I guess you haven't seen the news.
http://www... Aug 17 2005, 03:12 PM
Kristinaa AWW HELL NO!
Hollywood + anything political =... Aug 17 2005, 03:14 PM
yellowgurl QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Aug 17 2... Aug 18 2005, 01:38 AM
aera i like the documentaries, like the flight that fou... Aug 17 2005, 08:48 PM
The Voice QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 22 2005, 8:03 AM)If a d... Aug 22 2005, 09:42 AM
helllla jankyyyy I hope its not a love story. Come on. Aug 18 2005, 12:00 AM
illumineering QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 17 2005, 4:10 PM)Oh man... Aug 18 2005, 02:29 AM
napoleon034 QUOTE(illumineering @ Aug 18 2005, 2:29 AM)Wh... Aug 18 2005, 03:15 PM
illumineering The "truth" you refer to is a matter of ... Aug 18 2005, 06:59 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(illumineering @ Aug 18 2005, 6:59 AM)Th... Aug 18 2005, 07:05 AM
illumineering QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 18 2005, 8:05 AM)The tr... Aug 18 2005, 07:14 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(illumineering @ Aug 18 2005, 7:14 AM)No... Aug 18 2005, 08:04 AM
SkaironFrenzy i bet they're going to say its g. bush's f... Aug 18 2005, 03:58 PM
The Voice QUOTE(SkaironFrenzy @ Aug 18 2005, 3:58 PM)i ... Aug 19 2005, 10:02 AM

napoleon034 QUOTE(The Voice @ Aug 19 2005, 10:02 AM)See, ... Aug 19 2005, 11:52 AM

The Voice QUOTE(napoleon034 @ Aug 19 2005, 11:52 AM)Rec... Aug 19 2005, 12:07 PM
Kristinaa Ah blah blah, I really gotta stop coming in here. ... Aug 22 2005, 06:24 PM
disco infiltrator 1. You may not like Fahrenheit 911, but it is true... Aug 19 2005, 02:18 PM
zepfel just take the film with a pinch of salt... it... Aug 19 2005, 07:33 PM
disco infiltrator Saying George Bush is a hero for going to war is p... Aug 22 2005, 05:43 PM
mipadi I think it's going a bit far to say that any c... Aug 23 2005, 03:28 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 23 2005, 3:28 PM)I think i... Aug 23 2005, 06:42 PM
sadolakced acid ^ and farenheit 9/11 was all lies? Aug 23 2005, 08:37 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 23 2005, 8:37 PM)... Aug 24 2005, 07:57 AM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 24 2005, 7:57 AM)It had... Aug 24 2005, 09:33 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(caytexo @ Aug 24 2005, 9:33 AM)And, exa... Aug 24 2005, 10:20 AM
Kristinaa QUOTE(caytexo @ Aug 24 2005, 9:33 AM)And, exa... Aug 25 2005, 07:24 PM
mipadi Fahrenheit 9/11 isn't a documentary, but it is... Aug 24 2005, 11:18 AM
The Voice I'm not going to get heated about this…but Mic... Aug 24 2005, 11:21 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 24 2005, 11:18 AM)Fahrenhe... Aug 24 2005, 11:59 AM
mipadi QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 24 2005, 12:59 PM)Yeah,... Aug 24 2005, 03:53 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 24 2005, 3:53 PM)So at wha... Aug 25 2005, 08:36 AM
disco infiltrator Michael Moore didn't lie. He used hard facts i... Aug 24 2005, 04:32 PM
LordAwesome Well, you argue back and fourth so fervently. Darn... Aug 24 2005, 06:57 PM
sandy_lumpy_shore i agree with you. documentries are nice but when ... Aug 24 2005, 07:09 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(sandy_lumpy_shore @ Aug 24 2005, 7:09 P... Aug 24 2005, 07:45 PM
xklipse ah geez, I knew they gonna make a movie the second... Aug 24 2005, 07:10 PM
sadolakced acid of course farenheit 9/11 was extrodinarily one sid... Aug 24 2005, 07:46 PM
xcaitlinx QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 24 2005, 7:46 PM)... Aug 24 2005, 07:50 PM
disco infiltrator Fahrenheit 9/11 was a movie about current events a... Aug 25 2005, 03:35 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 25 2005, 3:35 PM)Fahre... Aug 26 2005, 06:19 AM
sadolakced acid ^^(two up)
like the fact that the third plane fle... Aug 26 2005, 07:54 PM
Kristinaa Oh damn. I did forget about the 4th. Blah.
But s... Aug 27 2005, 03:22 PM![]() ![]() |