is this suicide justified?, 85 year old man shoots himself |
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is this suicide justified?, 85 year old man shoots himself |
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An 85 year-old man committed suicide in my town last week. His wife died about 4 years ago from cancer. His daugher-in-law died 6 years ago from cancer. His son had a heart attack and died last week. His only living relatives were his only son's 2 children. They asked him to move near them so they could be closer together. They said they would build him a house near them in Philadelphia so they could take care of him.
After he buried his son, he took his dog to the kennel the next day, returned home, and shot himself. Was this man justified in doing this? Is this an overreaction to a difficult situation that he could have accepted over time? Was he placing his grandchildren under a more difficult situation because he was feeling sorry for himself? When his granddaughter found out, she almost miscarried her baby because she was so emotional. Doesn't the bible say suicide is a sin? (He was a Christian.) Because he didn't want to burden anyone and had lost everyone that he was close to, was his decision acceptable? Let's face it, the best years of his life were over and he has the right to decide when and how he should leave this earth. His actions should be respected. I'm having a hard time resolving this. Although I can respect his right to decide what he wants to do with his life, I also feel that his actions were somewhat selfish. What do you think? |
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QUOTE(Olive @ Aug 6 2005, 10:51 PM) Who made him God? Just because he was in the process of making life, gives him no right to destroy it. If you are the slightest Christian (which I doubt since you believe reason for life is sex) like this old man, you would know humans are God's property and that suicide violates the holy scriptures in the 10 commandments especially commandment 6 if i am not wrong which reads thus `thy shall not kill`. Thereby, killing oneself is like deciding your own destiny and no longer leaving that duty on God as your creator. That is not justifiable regardless of how many times he performed sex as he committed a wrongful sin, in which ended his existence therefore, giving up on any purposes of life. thou shalt not kill. ok, so that's why he shouldn't commit suicide? oh but wait! chirstians have changed that so they can "kill the infidel", haven't they? it's thou shalt not kill needlessly. but this is a needful killing. every man is god. god is the only one with the power to decide fate. every man can kill another. every man is god. |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 7 2005, 10:56 PM) thou shalt not kill. ok, so that's why he shouldn't commit suicide? oh but wait! chirstians have changed that so they can "kill the infidel", haven't they? it's thou shalt not kill needlessly. but this is a needful killing. every man is god. god is the only one with the power to decide fate. every man can kill another. every man is god. haha i don't know whether to be amused or highly disturbed. I guess there's no point arguing about morality when your beliefs revolve around sex and being god. I truely hope God does not smite you in your daily duties. Good Day. |
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QUOTE(Olive @ Aug 7 2005, 10:47 PM) haha i don't know whether to be amused or highly disturbed. I guess there's no point arguing about morality when your beliefs revolve around sex and being god. I truely hope God does not smite you in your daily duties. Good Day. Wait, why are you arguing over morality? The topic is about justicifcation, therefore, YES, it is justified as one is in control of one's destiny. |
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QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Aug 15 2005, 4:12 PM) Because he was Christian (read the first post) and Christian morals says suicide is not justified. By throwing away his life, he acted in cowardice against his own belief, disregarding everyone for self sympathy. QUOTE it is justified as one is in control of one's destiny this argument has already been said... many times. But this world does not concern just the "one" person. Just because "one is in control" does NOT mean it is justified to the rest of us. |
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