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Aug 15 2005, 02:07 PM
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![]() Don't wake ghostie. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,546 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,405 |
Before stating wether you think we should still be in Iraq please think about this: Is it considered freedom if one nation forces another nation to be under the same government just because we believe that it is right? Does this justify inforcement of democracy in other countries? If we obolish different cultures it will obolish the very thing that makes us human- diversity. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with anything, I do believe in human rights especially womens rights. I just would like to get other opinions- elaborate.
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Aug 15 2005, 10:59 PM
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dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
^ nontheless, the increasing economic power, both in cheap labor and a market for goods, makes china quite needed.
imagine, for instance, if china decided to tax all exports 100%. all things we take for granted as being cheap would jump in price. sure, there's a trade agreement, but it also means china has some clout. the US can't do anything bad to china for fear of loosing the manufacturing base. |
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Aug 15 2005, 11:07 PM
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![]() Seoul Rocks! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 936 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 155,811 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 15 2005, 9:59 PM) ^ nontheless, the increasing economic power, both in cheap labor and a market for goods, makes china quite needed. imagine, for instance, if china decided to tax all exports 100%. all things we take for granted as being cheap would jump in price. sure, there's a trade agreement, but it also means china has some clout. the US can't do anything bad to china for fear of loosing the manufacturing base. The U.S government has convinced many companies to take there business to other countries.
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Aug 15 2005, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(medic @ Aug 16 2005, 12:07 AM) The U.S government has convinced many companies to take there business to other countries. Since 1992, the percent of imported goods from china has only raised 7.5%. Taiwan - 21.4%, Switzerland - 22.8%, United Kingdom - 33.0%, Colombia - 46.8%..... 7.5% is a small number compared to Taiwan or Switzerland, China is slowly loosing its popularity. Your figures are incorrect: "China's exports to the United States have grown by 1,600 percent over the past 15 years, and U.S. exports to China have grown by 415 percent" [1]. |
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Aug 15 2005, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 15 2005, 10:09 PM) Your figures are incorrect: "China's exports to the United States have grown by 1,600 percent over the past 15 years, and U.S. exports to China have grown by 415 percent" [1]. Well I got it from http://www.ita.doc.gov/td/ocg/archive/aimp3172.htm Its also done in dollars, I didnt notice that......... QUOTE Correction: NEWSWEEK incorrectly reported the number of Wal-Mart's suppliers. The company has over 68,000 suppliers in the U.S. alone. Less than 6 percent of the $137.5 billion Wal-Mart spent last year with suppliers went to China. NEWSWEEK regrets the errors.
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Aug 15 2005, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(medic @ Aug 16 2005, 12:10 AM) Well I got it from http://www.ita.doc.gov/td/ocg/archive/aimp3172.htm Its also done in dollars, I didnt notice that......... You did notice the title of the chart is "Top 25 U.S. Import Sources for Personal Leather Goods", right? |
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Aug 15 2005, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 15 2005, 10:13 PM) You did notice the title of the chart is "Top 25 U.S. Import Sources for Personal Leather Goods", right? LOL, no I didn't...... O well, I got another one, I will be editing my post. Ok here it is in Graph form, ![]() Source: The U.S. Census Bureau Top Trading Partners - Total Trade, Imports Year-to-Date September 2004 Data are goods only. |
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Retrogressive democracy in Iraq Aug 15 2005, 02:07 PM
onecrazyfreak Geeezzz I dunno...When you think about it from eit... Aug 15 2005, 03:22 PM
Kristinaa QUOTE(onecrazyfreak @ Aug 15 2005, 3:22 PM)Ge... Aug 15 2005, 03:41 PM
RiC3xBoy QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Aug 15 2... Aug 15 2005, 06:09 PM
medic QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Aug 15 2005, 1:07 PM)Be... Aug 15 2005, 05:01 PM
illumineering QUOTE(medic @ Aug 15 2005, 6:01 PM)China, but... Aug 15 2005, 09:15 PM
medic QUOTE(illumineering @ Aug 15 2005, 8:15 PM)Wr... Aug 15 2005, 10:55 PM
sadolakced acid wow, forcing people to have freedom sure isn't... Aug 15 2005, 06:27 PM
not_your_average Well, we didn't go to Iraq to implement democr... Aug 15 2005, 07:30 PM
sadolakced acid ^ interestingly, we have to extert an imperialisti... Aug 15 2005, 09:04 PM
aera ^yup. and they have a "fake" communist g... Aug 15 2005, 09:34 PM
sadolakced acid they still wield a clout there.
and thier billion... Aug 15 2005, 11:19 PM
medic QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 15 2005, 10:19 PM... Aug 15 2005, 11:35 PM
mipadi So, medic, even by your own charts, China is still... Aug 15 2005, 11:20 PM
medic QUOTE(mipadi @ Aug 15 2005, 10:20 PM)So, medi... Aug 15 2005, 11:30 PM
mipadi QUOTE(medic @ Aug 16 2005, 12:30 AM)Actually,... Aug 15 2005, 11:33 PM
sadolakced acid ^
and the chinese government requires all governm... Aug 15 2005, 11:38 PM
mipadi QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 16 2005, 12:38 AM... Aug 15 2005, 11:39 PM
sadolakced acid ^ yea i didn't understand that last part.
may... Aug 15 2005, 11:40 PM
RiC3xBoy QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 15 2005, 9:40 PM)... Aug 16 2005, 12:10 AM
Retrogressive QUOTE- Human rights. Ha. Womens rights. Ha ha. I r... Aug 16 2005, 02:56 PM
not_your_average This is not the China debate. If you are going to ... Aug 16 2005, 03:05 PM![]() ![]() |