war in iraq Options

[brian_deegan]

do you support it or no?

[tkproduce]

the idea behind communism is a very good one. it's just that it will never work with humans because the majority of humans are selfish, deceitful and untrustworthy, including myself.

About Vietnam, I spent a whole year in history studying it, so it's not like I know nothing about it, although I know that sitting in a classroom is very different from having first or second hand experience. But I hope it gives me some qualification for arguing my point.

I understand that the war did have a point for the Vietnamese, because people were fighting for what they believed, but why did the Americans have to intervene? They thought that putting in a dummy right-wing Catholic dictator as leader of South Vietnam would cease the spread in communism. Actually, it just made things worse. The majority of Vietnamese being Buddhist, having this Catholic leader didn't please them. This lead to attacks from the Vietminh - which I guess the Americans would call "terrorists". The American army, not being used to guerilla warfare, got paranoid, bombing everywhere they could, using Agent Orange to strip the leaves of trees to make it easier to look for their enemy (more bombs were dropped in South Vietnam than North Vietnam, in fact). Chemical weapons were dropped everywhere and the consequences of them can still be seen today (apparently). The peak of their paranoia was probably illustrated by the My Lai massacre, where a whole town of innocent women and children were massacred. I'd be surprised if no one protested against these war crimes.

About people that don't like communism fleeing. Not everyone is going to be pleased by their own government. People that have strong right-wing beliefs are obviously not going to like a communist government. When Fidel Castro took over Cuba, a lot of right-wing people did flee (the majority being the rich, who didn't want their money taken away from them). Are people suffering in Cuba? They may not be the wealthiest of countries, but they have the best hospitals in the whole of central and south america and quite a stable education system. It may be common concept that communism is evil but I don't think one has to think more deeply about it to reach that conclusion.

Obviously I haven't spent much care on writing this, so there're a lot of leaks in the argument, possibly some faults in the facts, so this is still open to arguments.