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Half-Blood Prince Discussion, Spoilers
jordanriane
post Jul 17 2005, 08:35 AM
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Since Anna mentioned a new topic for discussion of the book, I figured I'd just create the new topic, that way people can talk about the book here, instead of in the other thread, that people can use who haven't finished/read the book yet.

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and i also know who  RAB is.

Regulus Black, the brother of sirius black, who was murdered by the dark lord ages ago.
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How were you able to figure that it was him?



The only real problem I had with this book, was the first chapter, with the Minister. I don't really see that it was too relevent, other then telling us that the muggle world saw these deaths are regular murders (aside from trying to figure out how someone died when they were alone and locked up) and whatnot.. But it was just really irrelevent, and ticked me off that it had really little meaning with the rest of the book.

Maybe it'll tie in for book 7, hopefully.
 
 
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smile0751
post Jul 18 2005, 10:26 AM
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Now to a theory I had about the soul (forgot the real word for them)-



What we know about VM’s souls-

* DD isn’t the only one who knows about them. So does R.A.B

(I think that’s the initials)

* His souls are stored in a Diary, Ring, Locket, Goblet, Snake, VM, and in an obeject thought to be owned by either Griffendor or Ravenclaw.
* To split the soul you need to kill someone
* You have to kill all VM’s souls to kill him



Unknown stuff-



* Whats the spell to split the soul
* Where the last soul is
* How to destroy objects housing souls



My idea involving Souls



Ok so the list of souls goes as follows- Diary, Ring, Locket, Goblet, Snake, VM, and in an obeject thought to be owned by either Griffendor or Ravenclaw. So to start lets talk about the unknown obect. First I would like to point out a few things. One you can store souls in living things, like a snake. Second you must kill someone to do it, and the killing curse is Avada Kadava (I think). Also DD has said to Harry something along the lines of “When VM tried to kill you, he put some of him self into you, that’s why you can speak Parcletounge (speaking to snakes)” ext. Also when the Death Eaters got into Hogwarts they used a vanishing cabinet. How Draco described it, really made me thinking. He said that his friend that was shut in it, heard both stuff happening in Hogwarts, and stuff happening in that shop. There was a connection there. Those are the 4 main thing I am basing my argument on.

I believe when VM used Avada Kadava on little Harry, the spell back fired and split his soul once again. Part of his soul went to Harry while he kept the other half. That would mean that Harry has 2 souls in him. That expains why he could feel how VM is feeling. It would work like the vanishing cabinet. The soul is connecting the two of them.

Also DD says he thinks it is stored in something owned by Griffenor or Ravenclaw. I know this has been said before, but what if Harry is the desendent of one of these houses? Then DD is right, it is stored in one of them.

Now the interesting part, If Part of VM is in Harry, how can he defeat VM without killing him self? I mean how can he kill just one part of him self. This is where I think a big battle inside of harry with take place. I think each soul will struggle to control Harry’s body and mind, but then Harry’s Soul will win the fight destroying VM’s soul. Anyone like my ideas so far?


I have page numbers and more proof for it too
 

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jordanriane   Half-Blood Prince Discussion   Jul 17 2005, 08:35 AM
miss barnes   i know who dies......i went to like the second to ...   Jul 17 2005, 02:54 PM
acidophilus   MAJOR SPOILERS . . . . . . . . . . . SNAPE KILLS ...   Jul 17 2005, 02:57 PM
Lo Mein   Argh I hate spoilers...even if there is a warning ...   Jul 17 2005, 03:12 PM
stephinika   hm, yeah jordan i was thinking that about the firs...   Jul 17 2005, 03:53 PM
Azarel   Discussion is misspelled.   Jul 17 2005, 03:55 PM
jordanriane   "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE AND IS THE HALF BLOOD...   Jul 17 2005, 04:01 PM
stephinika   ^^ fixed.   Jul 17 2005, 03:58 PM
sadolakced acid   the 6th horcrux is harry himself, unintentionally...   Jul 17 2005, 05:29 PM
silver rain   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 6:29 PM)...   Jul 17 2005, 05:50 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 6:29 PM)...   Jul 17 2005, 05:55 PM
hall0w   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 3:29 PM)...   Jul 17 2005, 10:15 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(Kevinxp @ Jul 17 2005, 10:15 PM)i dont ...   Jul 17 2005, 10:16 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 11:16 PM...   Jul 18 2005, 09:55 AM
[pshaa]shauna   My friend Shirin had an idea on what the last horc...   Jul 17 2005, 06:00 PM
sadolakced acid   ^ jk rowling has written the last chapter alrea...   Jul 17 2005, 06:07 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 7:07 PM)...   Jul 17 2005, 06:23 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 17 2005, 6:23 PM)As f...   Jul 17 2005, 06:32 PM
mocassinsx29   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 6:07 PM)...   Jul 18 2005, 11:58 PM
smrkangl   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 5:07 PM)...   Jul 19 2005, 04:57 PM
mocassinsx29   I think the first chapter was to fill the story in...   Jul 17 2005, 07:40 PM
maia_dc   Don't tell.... I actually really liked this bo...   Jul 17 2005, 07:55 PM
clarissa   In the Order of the Phoenix.. there was this locke...   Jul 17 2005, 08:53 PM
dahding   whoever's taken the locket, most likely is a d...   Jul 17 2005, 10:49 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(dahding @ Jul 17 2005, 10:49 PM)whoever...   Jul 17 2005, 10:57 PM
dahding   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 11:57 PM...   Jul 17 2005, 10:59 PM
its_annah   ^x2 I agree with everything he just said. I don...   Jul 17 2005, 11:06 PM
sadolakced acid   well, it is a longshot, but the possibility must b...   Jul 17 2005, 11:08 PM
clarissa   About the locket in OotP.. JK is known to let impo...   Jul 18 2005, 12:15 AM
Eternally_L0st   -- Harry being the 6th horcrux entered my mind too...   Jul 18 2005, 12:41 AM
mocassinsx29   ^ both the six and fifth made me cry. i'm an e...   Jul 18 2005, 12:43 AM
stephinika   ^^ hah yes i remember that... and i totally calle...   Jul 18 2005, 02:43 AM
sw33t_rouge   - dumbledore dies - snape is the half-blood prince   Jul 18 2005, 10:12 AM
jordanriane   QUOTE(sw33t_rouge @ Jul 18 2005, 11:12 AM)- d...   Jul 18 2005, 10:20 AM
sw33t_rouge   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 18 2005, 10:20 AM)Hey...   Jul 18 2005, 10:51 AM
[pshaa]shauna   I think that jk rowling should kill off harry in t...   Jul 18 2005, 10:21 AM
smile0751   Now to a theory I had about the soul (forgot the r...   Jul 18 2005, 10:26 AM
[pshaa]shauna   ^^hi shirin back to disscussion   Jul 18 2005, 10:28 AM
smile0751   hi brewer! Funny seeing you here...   Jul 18 2005, 10:29 AM
Hell-Rell   I think in the last chapter it should explain ever...   Jul 18 2005, 10:32 AM
[pshaa]shauna   QUOTE(reolistic @ Jul 18 2005, 9:32 AM)I thin...   Jul 18 2005, 10:47 AM
xlauren73x   hmmm.. a lot of really good theories going on in t...   Jul 18 2005, 11:35 AM
emazing   Yes, I figured out the initals RAB when I was taki...   Jul 18 2005, 11:43 AM
jordanriane   Possible horcrux: Ginny Weasly Why? QUOTE(...   Jul 18 2005, 11:50 AM
dahding   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 18 2005, 12:50 PM)Pos...   Jul 18 2005, 10:45 PM
smile0751   I took that quote from CoS to mean that a Soul can...   Jul 18 2005, 12:09 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(smile0751 @ Jul 18 2005, 1:09 PM)I took...   Jul 18 2005, 12:17 PM
clarissa   I'm a bit interested in Draco's character....   Jul 18 2005, 12:22 PM
smile0751   I found this- Brand, Rudolf Captain of the Heidel...   Jul 18 2005, 12:47 PM
clarissa   ^ didn't hermione mention her? or was it someo...   Jul 18 2005, 01:03 PM
jordanriane   On another forum someone mentioned R and B, which ...   Jul 18 2005, 01:11 PM
smile0751   "On another forum someone mentioned R and B, ...   Jul 18 2005, 01:23 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(smile0751 @ Jul 18 2005, 2:23 PM)...   Jul 18 2005, 01:33 PM
Bobblehead425   i am very depressed after finishing the book...*si...   Jul 18 2005, 01:43 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(Bobblehead425 @ Jul 18 2005, 2:43 PM)//...   Jul 18 2005, 02:37 PM
mocassinsx29   Woooahhh, Ginny a Horcrux? I have a feeling she...   Jul 18 2005, 02:13 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 18 2005, 9:55 AM)Ther...   Jul 18 2005, 03:01 PM
Individualityy   "R.A.B" stands for Regulus A. Black. I t...   Jul 18 2005, 03:20 PM
michelle_07   QUOTE(Individualityy @ Jul 18 2005, 3:20 PM)N...   Jul 18 2005, 09:56 PM
smile0751   If RAB is Regulus Black, and he went about to dest...   Jul 18 2005, 03:21 PM
jordanriane   kreacher. he would've obeyed another Black f...   Jul 18 2005, 03:30 PM
smile0751   Kreacher, hmmmm. Good idea, but kreacher would of...   Jul 18 2005, 03:47 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(smile0751 @ Jul 18 2005, 4:47 PM)Kreach...   Jul 18 2005, 04:13 PM
PurchasedRebellion   I just finished the book and le sigh, I can't ...   Jul 18 2005, 03:58 PM
glit_gal   I still can't believe dumbledore died ....i ho...   Jul 18 2005, 07:35 PM
..:loveee.NuTTii   QUOTEany thoughts for the title / release date of ...   Jul 18 2005, 08:35 PM
mocassinsx29   QUOTE(..:loveee.NuTTii @ Jul 18 2005, 8:35 PM...   Jul 18 2005, 10:51 PM
xSWEETxCANDiix   ^ I thought that as well. Perhaps...we're wron...   Jul 18 2005, 10:52 PM
dahding   i think that dumbledore's pleading had much to...   Jul 18 2005, 11:07 PM
ichigofan   First off The book was a disapointment but anyways...   Jul 19 2005, 12:42 AM
I wear bow ties   Lucky losers. Got the book before me...But, it was...   Jul 19 2005, 12:44 AM
sadolakced acid   it can't be ginny. harry put the dark lord...   Jul 19 2005, 02:02 AM
disco infiltrator   Wow. I just finished. Wow wow wow. Must say I...   Jul 19 2005, 05:30 AM
dahding   no sammi, it was not said that it had to be an obj...   Jul 19 2005, 06:27 AM
disco infiltrator   1) Yes, I realized that, but as Dumbledore pointed...   Jul 19 2005, 07:09 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(headphones @ Jul 19 2005, 7:09 AM)1) Ye...   Jul 19 2005, 07:58 AM
jordanriane   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 19 2005, 8:58 AM)...   Jul 19 2005, 09:47 AM
mocassinsx29   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 19 2005, 9:47 AM)In o...   Jul 19 2005, 12:44 PM
jordanriane   QUOTE(mocassinsx29 @ Jul 19 2005, 1:44 PM)He ...   Jul 19 2005, 02:56 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 19 2005, 2:56 PM)I do...   Jul 19 2005, 09:55 PM
tweeak   QUOTEQUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 17 2005, 4:32 AM)...   Jul 19 2005, 10:41 AM
jordanriane   Yes, he has. And he won't shut up about anythi...   Jul 19 2005, 10:44 AM
tweeak   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 17 2005, 8:35 AM)Sinc...   Jul 19 2005, 10:47 AM
[x]Mari[x]   I can't believe he broke up with Ginny. I unde...   Jul 19 2005, 11:46 AM
maia_dc   Hmmm... I've realized that debating about Harr...   Jul 19 2005, 12:09 PM
tweeak   ^whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?   Jul 19 2005, 12:28 PM
aeyungg xd   i was upset that harry went all "spiderman...   Jul 19 2005, 12:33 PM
[x]Mari[x]   QUOTE(aeyungg xd @ Jul 19 2005, 11:33 AM)i wa...   Jul 19 2005, 12:39 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jul 19 2005, 9:47 AM)In o...   Jul 19 2005, 12:58 PM
mocassinsx29   So... Harry's a Horcrux by accident? :O Man, I...   Jul 19 2005, 01:15 PM
disco infiltrator   Justin, are you forgetting the end of the last boo...   Jul 19 2005, 01:30 PM
mocassinsx29   ^ 'Cause you said in order to make a Horcrux, ...   Jul 19 2005, 03:01 PM
JasonBeTheMan   Earlier someone mentioned Snape being a bad dude.....   Jul 19 2005, 05:54 PM
michelle_07   ^ i hope that's true. but i still really don...   Jul 19 2005, 07:51 PM
quinntastic   Of course I was devasted that Dumbledore died, eve...   Jul 19 2005, 06:20 PM
mocassinsx29   The locket theory. ^x3 I thought that maybe Mundu...   Jul 19 2005, 07:23 PM
dahding   sure, it "devasted" me too. anywho, i t...   Jul 19 2005, 08:33 PM
michelle_07   QUOTE(dahding @ Jul 19 2005, 8:33 PM)sure, it...   Jul 19 2005, 09:48 PM
autumn.   okay aside from horcruxes... i think snape is a g...   Jul 19 2005, 09:38 PM
lovelymissphoebe   I just loved when Harry got together with Ginny an...   Jul 19 2005, 10:00 PM
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